There were 3 main suspects besides GPM in the book Dean MacP, Brad F, and Bill L.
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There were 3 main suspects besides GPM in the book Dean MacP, Brad F, and Bill L.
I realize that everyone is now onto Suspects, and not to take away from Suspects. But I would like posters thoughts on this as they are pondering suspects:
Found on Christines corduroy pants, beside lint, hair, dirt, were small red plastic chips. What items back in 1983 were made of plastic, which was easily broken or easily chipped?
1) Toys?
2) Car paint?
3) Something in/from the perps vehicle? Trunk, backseat, back floor?
Dedpanman when you have the time could you please quote from Makins book, the description of these small red chips? And what was found on the corduroy pants? Thank you.
Found on Christines corduroy pants, beside lint, hair, dirt, were small red plastic chips. What items back in 1983 were made of plastic, which was easily broken or easily chipped?
1) Toys?
2) Car paint?
3) Something in/from the perps vehicle? Trunk, backseat, back floor?
Dedpanman when you have the time could you please quote from Makins book, the description of these small red chips? And what was found on the corduroy pants? Thank you.
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I’m not certain which category this falls under? Overkill was acted upon a very small female child. Was the male’s anger directed towards ?:
1) Christine
2) All females in general, regardless of their age
4) His mother
5) His rejections by females
6) Frustration/anger with his life
7) Frustration/anger with his job
8) Frustration/anger with his boss
Any poster’s have anything else to add?
1) Christine
2) All females in general, regardless of their age
4) His mother
5) His rejections by females
6) Frustration/anger with his life
7) Frustration/anger with his job
8) Frustration/anger with his boss
Any poster’s have anything else to add?
I'm not sure the anger has to do with a specific situation like those listed above unless it was 6. In my opinion it has more to do with mental health of this offender, although I would bet that the person responsible for this brutal attack was likely molested as a child. Neat reads for more understanding;
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/106117797/
http://www.eaplstudent.com/component/content/article/193-fact-sheet-violent-offenders
Apologies ... you have gone on to another filter and I am bringing older arguments/discussions to the table. For what it's worth, I was not understanding what Woodland was talking about DNA until I found the following ...
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/prb0829-e.htm
It's a long read but important for understanding, in my limited and humble thinking, especially when you get to Canadian context which better explains what Woodland has been referring to.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/prb0829-e.htm
It's a long read but important for understanding, in my limited and humble thinking, especially when you get to Canadian context which better explains what Woodland has been referring to.
Yes, but the test was done using the PCR STR and therefore is in the database.
"where the conventional STR methods fail
Correct, I don't know what info W relies on or who has verified its accuracy but perhaps this was all just a simple misinterpretation? I can't speak for her but the addition of the one word "fail" in the above article gives it an opposite meaning than it otherwise would. Maybe that simple?
What I thought was clear isn't so clear after all. I believe the confirmation came directly from RCMP and perhaps the person spoken to didn't understand either. Perhaps the info Mistysues has and is "studied" in the subject needs to be submitted to the officers who made the mistake.
Marikesh - the article you attached to your post #465 is not what I was referring to. Subsequent posts assuming that is what I was referring to are also incorrect.
The article in post #465 is dated 3 March 2009 and begins with the background on the National DNA Database which began in June 2000. It has no bearing on what was in use up to and including January 1995.
The article in post #465 is dated 3 March 2009 and begins with the background on the National DNA Database which began in June 2000. It has no bearing on what was in use up to and including January 1995.
The article I refer to was attached by Mistysues in their post #372. Written by Thomas Curran in September 1997 - BP443E - the Library of Parliament Reference.
Here it is again -
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/researchpublications/bp443-e.pdf
See page 12 -
'The standard forensic-DNA typing technology initially used in Canada was the RFLP technology; this is now being replaced by the newer PCR/STR (polymerase chain reaction/short tandem repeat) technology. As of May 1997, the RCMP's Central Forensic Laboratory in Ottawa, as well as laboratories in Regina and Vancouver, had converted to PCR/STR from RFLP; the RCMP laboratories in Halifax and Edmonton were still using the RFLP technology; and the Winnipeg laboratory was using both technologies. Full conversion of the RCMP forensic laboratory system to PCR/STR analysis is expected to be completed in early 1998. The Centre for Forensic Sciences in Toronto also uses the PCR/STR technology.'
Curran does not discuss labs in the US.
Here it is again -
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/researchpublications/bp443-e.pdf
See page 12 -
'The standard forensic-DNA typing technology initially used in Canada was the RFLP technology; this is now being replaced by the newer PCR/STR (polymerase chain reaction/short tandem repeat) technology. As of May 1997, the RCMP's Central Forensic Laboratory in Ottawa, as well as laboratories in Regina and Vancouver, had converted to PCR/STR from RFLP; the RCMP laboratories in Halifax and Edmonton were still using the RFLP technology; and the Winnipeg laboratory was using both technologies. Full conversion of the RCMP forensic laboratory system to PCR/STR analysis is expected to be completed in early 1998. The Centre for Forensic Sciences in Toronto also uses the PCR/STR technology.'
Curran does not discuss labs in the US.
Also in post #372, there is part of an article titled 'DNA Evidence in the Christine Jessop Homicide Case.'
The original of that paper, written by the same authors excluding D.H. BI, is titled 'The use of a Comprehensive Approach for Neutralization of PCR.'
Both articles refer to a potent inhibitor of the PCR. There is no mention of the use of STR. STR technology was not available, and the PCR technology was new - careful modifications were required to overcome the problems which were severe degradation of the samples.
The test was conducted at CBR Laboratories in Boston, MA - the best of the best at the time.
The original of that paper, written by the same authors excluding D.H. BI, is titled 'The use of a Comprehensive Approach for Neutralization of PCR.'
Both articles refer to a potent inhibitor of the PCR. There is no mention of the use of STR. STR technology was not available, and the PCR technology was new - careful modifications were required to overcome the problems which were severe degradation of the samples.
The test was conducted at CBR Laboratories in Boston, MA - the best of the best at the time.
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