CANADA Canada - Kam McLeod, 19, & Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, last seen Sask, mid July 2019 *Armed & Dangerous*

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LadyL said:
under Bryer's only photo, it shows 33 comments but only three are visible (to me)
is he deleting them? spooky

also I did not see the comment referenced in the article upthread

ETA: or he has another acc't
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I can read them ??
 
Herat said:
Because it’s part of the computer game they think they’re playing?
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I find it curious that so often when young men start murdering people that it gets blamed on a game. What made young men murder people before video games were around?

Were these two heavily immersed in some game culture and I just haven’t heard that yet?
 
That pic with the two of them on Bryer’s insta is weird if they’re both standing. Bryer is leaning way in and he still looks significantly taller than Kam. From the beginning I thought it was odd that both were described as 6’4” and approximately 169 pounds. It occurred to me that it was possible somebody made an error and just repeated the height/weight for both boys. Surely that would have been corrected by now though, one would have to assume.
 
pharmchick said:
Thursday, July 11th:
  • KM and BS's red/grey Dodge pickup with a camper attached to the back was seen travelling south from the Super A general store in Dease Lake, BC at roughly 3:15pm
  • BS's grandmother stated that the pair was planning to leave Port Alberni, BC on Friday, July 12th to travel to Whitehorse, Yukon to find work (Note from me: typical route would be to take ferry to Prince Rupert, BC and then travel north on Highway 37 through Dease Lake, BC, so this doesn't match with the previous observation of KM and BS travelling South).
Friday, July 12th:
  • BS's father receives final message from BS stating that BS and KM were heading to Alberta and might be uncontactable; assumed they were heading to Reed Deer Alberta where BS's cousin's live
Saturday, July 13th:
  • LF and CD leave Hudson's Hope, BC (where LF had been working at a ranch) for a planned 3 week Alaskan Road trip; couple met in Croatia in 2017 and had extensively traveled abroad together
  • CD texted her mother that morning, to let her know they were packing up their blue Chevy camper van and hitting the road
  • Surveillance video exists showing LF and CD stopping at a gas station in Fort Nelson, B.C between 7:30 and 7:47 pm
  • BS's grandmother states BS last in touch with her on July 13th or 14th to state that they had arrived in Whitehorse but it was not what they had expected, they were going to travel elsewhere but weren't sure what their plans were (Note from me: I don't know how reliable BS's grandmother's information is; she also stated that KM and BS had left Port Alberni on Friday, July 12th but this doesn't mesh with their vehicle being definitively seen in Dease Lake on Thursday, July 11th, so take this for what it's worth...)
Sunday, July 14th:
  • LF and CD's van breaks down along Alaska Highway (Canadian Highway 97) about 20 km south of Liard Hot Springs, BC - several locals stopped to ask if they needed help, but the pair appeared to have the situation under control, were not in distress, and were having a picnic as they waited for their van's engine to unflood.
  • Two witnesses (married couple) offered assistance to LF and CD just before 330 pm and were told that the vehicle was flooded out and that LF and CD were going to try to get it going again until they could get the parts they needed. Husband felt that LF's explanation of what was wrong with the vehicle indicated that he was very competent to fix the problem and so he was not worried when they refused assistance.
  • One witness (a road worker) stated that when she passed the van, the couple was in an intense conversation with a bearded man who had gotten out of a gray car and was standing in the middle of the highway looking frustrated as LF and CD stood beside their van (time of this encounter not documented - some sources state this witness saw the couple "that night")
Monday, July 15th
  • A road worker discovers bodies of LF and CD with gunshot wounds in a ditch on roadside of Alaska Highway (Hwy 97) in Northwest BC beside a blue Chevy Van; RCMP believe they were killed sometime between July 14th and July 15th
  • Per this witness, LF had no shoes on and CD had only one shoe on
  • Per CD's mother and brother, being kept in dark regarding exact details of the deaths, but have been lead to believe they were killed in a brutal fashion to the point where an open casket funeral would not be possible
  • Road worker who found the bodies states "I don't know how anybody could live with themselves after doing what I saw"
  • LF and CD's blue Chevy van had a smashed rear window (not smashed on video surveillance from July 13th), towed to an RCMP lot (CD's mother stated that most of their belongings were left at the site)
Friday, July 19th:
  • Victims publicly identified as LF (23, Australian) and CD (24, American)
  • Red/grey Dodge pickup found burning along Highway 37 south of the Stitkine River Bridge (50 km south of Dease Lake, BC, 500 km west of Liard River, BC)
  • KM (19, Canadian from Port Alberni) and BS (18, Canadian from Port Alberni) identified as owners of burnt out pickup truck - formally declared missing and search launched; believed to have been travelling to Whitehorse, Yukon in search of work
  • Third body (still identified) found in Highway 37 pullout about 2 km away from the flaming truck ; cause of death not yet released
Monday, July 22nd:
  • RCMP release composite sketch of the man who was found dead 2 km away from the burning truck - described as white and in his 50's or 60's with a heavy build and grey hair, between 5'8" and 5'10" tall
  • RCMP release composite sketch of the man last seen speaking with LF and CD on the evening of Sunday, July 14th - described as Caucasian with darker skin and dark hair, shorter than LF (who is 6'3" - note that both KM and BS are 6'4"), with a possible beard and/or glasses, may be associated to an older model Jeep Cherokee with a black stripe on the hood and a black light/bull bar with small covered lights; believed to have been travelling Southbound.
Tuesday, July 23rd (Today):
  • RCMP held press conference, stating KM and BS are no longer considered missing persons but are considered suspects in murder of LF, CD and unidentified third man
  • KM and BS considered dangerous; if seen, do not approach, call 911
  • KM and BS last known to be last in "Northern Saskatchewan" in a Grey 2011 Toyota Rav4 (not indicated when)
  • RCMP updated in afternoon post press conference stating last known location is Gillam, Manitoba (not indicated when)

If anyone has excellent map skills, it might be interesting to see all the various documented locations mapped out as a companion to this timeline to help further make some sense of it.
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Correction on that first item, that happened the following Thursday:

"They were last seen travelling south from the Super A general store in Dease Lake at around 3:15 pm on Thursday July 18, 2019." RCMP in British Columbia - Update - Police seek public assistance in Dease Lake investigation

They'd be unlikely to travel via Prince Rupert, that's an expensive tourist cruise, cost would be around $750, vs $100 going from Nanaimo to Vancouver, plus many ferries per day on that route, no need for reservations, etc. Ferry Fares | BC Ferries - British Columbia Ferry Services Inc.
 
Gardenista said:
Me either which makes me think we have the wrong acct or he has more than one. I really want to see what he is posting while on the run.
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I don't think he posted anything. Did the article say that? If it did, they edited the article.
 
oooh I see where there might be confusion ...

New comments left on an Instagram account appearing to belong to McLeod reference that he is being hunted by police, with one person commenting “clock’s ticking bud.”

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that refers to the account, not the comments

 
TristanP said:
I find it curious that so often when young men start murdering people that it gets blamed on a game. What made young men murder people before video games were around?

Were these two heavily immersed in some game culture and I just haven’t heard that yet?
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The gaming thing is just one part of a more complex psychological picture, imo.

Yes, it would appear they are into certain games, to the extent that at least one of them has an alter ego gaming profile.
 
LadyL said:
oooh I see where there might be confusion ...

New comments left on an Instagram account appearing to belong to McLeod reference that he is being hunted by police, with one person commenting “clock’s ticking bud.”

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that refers to the account, not the comments
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But it’s Bryer’s account that has all the comments, not Kam’s.
 
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