Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #11

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“Alberta RCMP has confirmed the two men wanted in a Canada-wide manhunt were spotted at a Fairview gas station on July 20th...

.....This is now the second confirmed sighting of the two in the province of Alberta, as Cold Lake RCMP also confirmed the two spent time in the area...”
Manhunt suspects previously spotted in Fairview: RCMP

Maybe you’re thinking of an earlier unconfirmed sighting in Meadow Lake? Fairview is another community in northern Alberta. I haven’t noticed this report retracted.

The July 20th sighting in Fairview is speculative IMO, only report was a radio station in Grande Prairie?

The Meadow Lake sighting has been confirmed with video.
Bryer Schmegelsky, Kam McLeod seen at Meadow Lake, Sask. Co-op store in newly-released video
 
The July 20th sighting in Fairview is speculative IMO, only report was a radio station in Grande Prairie?

The Meadow Lake sighting has been confirmed with video.
Bryer Schmegelsky, Kam McLeod seen at Meadow Lake, Sask. Co-op store in newly-released video

There were other earlier Meadow Lake sightings that were not confirmed.

But unless it’s retracted, the Fairview sighting could be correct because the date and location fit both the timeline and route. The RCMP in Grande Prairie would’ve been involved in confirming, why it’s reported from Grande Prairie. Even if Fairview has a RCMP station, it’s probably only a sub to Grande Prairie. It’s not reported as breaking news as the sighting occurred two weeks ago. JMO
 
In the last PC IIRC the officer said during the first two days the weather conditions were poor and it was too windy for police to use helicopters or drones, probably that would’ve been the 25th and 26th. If so the 27th was a search day but then it was on the 28th that all eyes were on York Landing.

I agree, it’s hard to say why the boat wasn’t spotted and it could’ve also been underwater for a time, held by the current, and just recently broke free.
Or possibly the helicopter missed it during higher elevation searches, and only yesterday was searching low enough to spot it.
 
There were other earlier Meadow Lake sightings that were not confirmed. But unless it’s retracted, the Fairview sighting could be correct because of the date and location.

I am just not certain MyGrandePrairieNow.com is considered a reliable source and there does not seem to be any other reports of this sighting by any MSM. JMO
 
I am just not certain MyGrandePrairieNow.com is considered a reliable source and there does not seem to be any other reports of this sighting by any MSM. JMO

Its a local station who’s reporting it was a confirmed sighting by the RCMP. There’s no national media reporting out of Grande Prairie.

I’m guessing reporters have no reason to race to Fairview because the pair are long gone?
 

Video surveillance of suspects in Meadow Lake on July 21, 2019


rcmptv
Published on Jul 26, 2019

The search for Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky continues. This video was obtained in Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan, on July 21, 2019. We are releasing this video as it may generate additional tips or sightings. We are also reminding everyone that these suspects should not be approached if seen and to call 911 or your local police immediately. Video Description: Surveillance video of two males walking down aisle of store and exiting store entrance.




 
TIMELINE UPDATE:

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https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5228561?__...VqCba3XEwFR0GYBHape4RjyAoXKfi7TAHd5-56Rpt7rLw
 
Key moments in the manhunt for two suspected B.C. killers

Friday, July 12

- Kam McLeod, 19, and Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, leave their home town of Port Alberni, B.C., with a plan to look for work in Whitehorse, according to media reports quoting Schmegelsky’s grandmother.

Saturday, July 13

- Video shows Australian Lucas Fowler, 23, and American Chynna Deese, 24, stopping at a gas station in Fort Nelson, B.C. They arrive in Fowler’s blue 1986 Chevrolet van at 7:30 p.m. and depart at 7:47 p.m.

Sunday, July 14

- According to media reports, Fowler and Deese are spotted on the side of the road with a broken-down van. Witnesses report seeing a man speaking with Fowler on Highway 97 in the evening. He is described as Caucasian with darker skin and dark hair, possibly with a beard and/or glasses.

Monday, July 15

- B.C. RCMP find Fowler and Deese’s bodies near their van along the Alaska Highway about 20 km south of Liard Hot Springs, near the B.C.-Yukon boundary.

Thursday, July 18

- McLeod and Schmegelsky are spotted in Dease Lake at about 3:15 p.m. They are driving a red and grey Dodge pickup truck with a sleeping camper.

Friday, July 19

- RCMP confirm they are investigating Fowler and Deese's deaths as a double homicide. Fowler’s father, an Australian police investigator, says the family is headed to B.C. to bring his son’s body home.

- RCMP respond to a call about a truck on fire on Highway 37 — seven-hours away from the double homicide and 50 kms south of Dease Lake. Police find an unidentified man’s body two kms from the burned vehicle.

Saturday, July 20

- RCMP say there is no indication the third body is connected to the deaths of Fowler and Deese.

Sunday, July 21

- RCMP say the burning truck was the same one last seen being driven by McLeod and Schmegelsky, who they describe as missing.

- McLeod and Schmegelsky are seen driving a grey 2011 Toyota RAV4 in the northern Saskatchewan town of Meadow Lake, about 300 km northwest of Saskatoon.


Monday, July 22

- RCMP confirm that Fowler and Deese were shot to death and release a sketch of the man police said spoke to Fowler on July 14.

- A burned-out vehicle is reported in the area of Gillam, a tiny northern Manitoba town about 1,000 km northeast of Winnipeg.


Tuesday, July 23

- RCMP say McLeod and Schmegelsky are now considered suspects in the deaths of Fowler, Deese and the third unidentified victim. Mounties launch a nationwide manhunt for the pair, saying they are “considered dangerous.”

- There is a possible sighting of the two in the Gillam area, according to RCMP.


Wednesday, July 24

- RCMP confirm the burned-out vehicle found in Gillam Monday was the Toyota RAV4 McLeod and Schmegelsky had been seen driving. Mounties say they’ve set up a check stop on the road leading into the town.

- Schmegelsky’s father says he believes his son will not survive a potential confrontation with police. McLeod’s father releases a statement describing his son as kind and considerate.

- The third victim is identified as Len Dyck of Vancouver. His family issues a statement describing him as a loving husband and father. Mounties charge McLeod and Schmegelsky with second-degree murder in connection to Dyck’s death.

Thursday, July 25

- Gillam residents say they are on edge as RCMP search their town, with one saying people are “sleeping with their guns close.” RCMP say there were two confirmed sightings of the suspects in the town and they believe McLeod and Schmegelsky are still in or near the area.

Police search B.C. homes of teens wanted in nationwide manhunt | The Star
 
Its a local station who’s reporting it was a confirmed sighting by the RCMP. There’s no national media reporting out of Grande Prairie.

I’m guessing reporters have no reason to race to Fairview because the pair are long gone?
If they'd stopped in Fairview, they had again chosen to go out of their way to take a quiet, northern route (where camping is most common) rather than the more southerly ones. But they were still heading east.
 
Here is a direct google maps satellite view link to the rapids just upstream of the converter station (Keewatinoow). This is downstream from Sundance (not Sundance Creek, that's a reporter error) about 5 miles.
Google Maps
These are the rapids I talked about in prior posts. They also appear to be the last ones of any significance between here and Hudson Bay.

Those white patches are about 30m / 100ft using measure distance, but the water looks very turbulent for almost a km (900m, just over 1/2 mi).

I gather that the boat ended up on the north shore of the river there because that's the side the road is on, and RCMP had closed the road to deal with the boat.
 
Maybe at these link?
Flood Warnings and Advisories - River Forecast Centre - Province of British Columbia
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Ended: High Streamflow Advisory - North Thompson River
Ended: High Streamflow Advisory - Northeast
Issued: 11:00 AM July 17, 2019

The River Forecast Centre is ending the High Streamflow Advisory for the North Thompson River including:
  • NORTH THOMPSON RIVER AT BIRCH ISLAND (08LB047) and ungagged tributaries
  • BLUE RIVER NEAR BLUE RIVER (08LB038)
The River Forecast Centre is ending the High Streamflow Advisory for the Northeast including:
  • The MUSKWA RIVER NEAR FORT NELSON (10CD001)
  • The SIKANNI CHIEF RIVER NEAR FORT NELSON (10CB001)
  • The FONTAS RIVER NEAR THE MOUTH (10CA001)
  • Other rivers and creeks in the Northeast, including Fort Nelson River, the Prophet River, Snake River, Klua Creek, and tributaries.The River Forecast Centre will continue to monitor the conditions and update this advisory as conditions warrant.

Real-Time Hydrometric Data Map Search - Water Level and Flow - Environment Canada

Wrong province. Those rivers are in British Columbia, not Manitoba.
 
I gather that the boat ended up on the north shore of the river there because that's the side the road is on, and RCMP had closed the road to deal with the boat.
SBM

Good catch! I bet you're right. Also would be the side they would have launched from (if it's the boat they used). MOO
 
I am just not certain MyGrandePrairieNow.com is considered a reliable source and there does not seem to be any other reports of this sighting by any MSM. JMO

Its a local station who’s reporting it was a confirmed sighting by the RCMP. There’s no national media reporting out of Grande Prairie.

I’m guessing reporters have no reason to race to Fairview because the pair are long gone?

If they'd stopped in Fairview, they had again chosen to go out of their way to take a quiet, northern route (where camping is most common) rather than the more southerly ones. But they were still heading east.

I think the best way to determine why on Aug 2, 2019 radio station "MYGRANDPRAIRIENOW" cited that Alberta RCMP confirmed to them [only] that the two men wanted in a Canada-wide manhunt were spotted at a Fairview gas station on July 20th, is to wait on the report of another reporter-- preferably one of the reporters with their boots on the ground, and who's been embedded since day one.

Reporters hate it when somebody has a story they know nothing about! I'm not believing it unless RCMP publicly confirms this.

It doesn't follow that Alberta RCMP did not publish this "sighting"on their tweeter, facebook, website, previous presser, and no other MSM received this report from them. :eek:

MOO

DISCLAIMER - link is not verified
Manhunt suspects previously spotted in Fairview: RCMP
 
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Seán O’Shea‏Verified account @ConsumerSOS
Seán O’Shea Retweeted RCMP Manitoba

This is why we exercise caution as professional journalists. RCMP say they have NOT apprehended the murder suspects (or anyone) despite their operation at York Landing, MB. We have deployed a news crew there and we are staying at Gillam. Reporting continues. @GlobalNational

Seán O’Shea added,

RCMP Manitoba
Verified account @rcmpmb
Despite reports - there is no one in custody at this time. RCMP officers remain in the community of York Landing & continue to investigate the reported sighting of the two suspects. All required resources are being used in this ongoing investigation. Updates to follow.

7:06 PM - 28 Jul 2019 from Gillam, Manitoba
 
Seán O’Shea‏Verified account @ConsumerSOS
Seán O’Shea Retweeted Renata D'Aliesio

Search for two murder suspects moves to water near Gillam, MB. @RenataDAliesio reports. (Globe and Mail is only Canadian newspaper to expend resources to cover the story on scene with a reporter and photographer @meltait. Global had two full crews in Gillam, one in Winnipeg).

Renata D'Aliesio‏ @RenataDAliesio
Our latest. RCMP divers to begin searching river near Gillam after finding rowboat, search for B.C. fugitives continues #canadianmanhunt #Canadamanhunt

9:09 PM - 3 Aug 2019 from Toronto, Ontario pst
 
Would the rowboat have fingerprints or dna ? (assuming the police have some sort of fingerprint or dna of suspects by now from clothing at their home)
There is an article somewhere that says they are unable to test it. I am assuming because the water has washed anything away. However the water bottle found may have DNA on it but we haven’t heard anything about that yet.
 
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