I'm saying he could have been fully licensed and carrying his own gun (or two) legally.Interesting.
IMO I hope you don't get a bye on stealing a gun because you have a license.
I'm saying he could have been fully licensed and carrying his own gun (or two) legally.Interesting.
IMO I hope you don't get a bye on stealing a gun because you have a license.
Maybe it's the guns that connected KM and BS to the victims after all? After LF and CD were found shot to death and BS and KM were reported missing, IF guns were missing from the McLeod home, the McLeod family would have been obligated to report that to the RCMP. Maybe the RCMP determined that the gun used to kill CD and LF was the same type(s) missing from the McLeod home, and they put two and two together from there.
It was a tip that lead them to the clothing?Yeah well, I think that can be questionable given now the RCMP have admitted their personal effect and clothing were lying on the shore, for "several days" near where they should have been expected to be, and only found them because of a civilian tip! Not sure if that qualifies for "great work".
Good point, yep they would know but would they share it with us?Then...would he not have acquired the guns legally, in which case RCMP would have known which guns he had. That brings us full circle to the discussion about whether there should have been more info/warnings. I personally think RCMP would have said "believed to be armed and dangerous" or equivalent if they knew Kam had legally purchased guns.
Maybe not. I'm just guessing.
It was a tip that lead them to the clothing?
It was a tip that lead them to the clothing?
Canada as a relatively gun free place? Nope, not any more (at least, not in the public mind, right now). RCMP must surely be concerned as well.
Honestly, I think BS spent so much time on Steam perfecting his gangsta talk, that he was probably able to connect with someone in e.g., Vancouver that could supply him with a couple guns at a price far cheaper than retail.Where is our dark web expert?
Are guns sold on the dark web in Canada?
Where is our dark web expert?
Are guns sold on the dark web in Canada?
I really think people are making it way too complicated. What about them just wanting to wreak havoc around the country then die in a suicide pact? I think it's really that simple. They probably hung around the first murders because they wanted to hear about it in the news, kind of like when killers return to the scene of the crime. Maybe they did that. They were likely fired up after killing two people and not sure what to do next. I think they made plans as they went. The only thing they knew for sure was that they were dying at the end. I don't think they planned when the end would be. Or where it would be. But that's likely why they made no attempt to conceal their identity at all along the way.Maybe the reason for K and B's trip was to buy guns - they spent their money- the murder of the couple was a robbery gone wrong. I don't know - its just speculation - I'm still grappling with the suicides. I really thought their cause of death was going to be hyperthermia and not suicide - otherwise, why kill yourself in the bush? Forensics should be able to determine the time of death more precisely than what we know currently. For example, IMO, a body decomposing in the bush for 5 days vs, 10 days should be quite different.
ahh hh c'mon@!! don't spoil a good story to shovel the RCMP!!..From what I recall, (I'm too tired to go looking for it now), it was Clint Sawchuk, the adventure tour guide, who spotted a sleeping bag hung up in the willows on the banks of the Nelson. If I'm remembering correctly, the sleeping bag wasn't located near the personal effects of the suspects.
DBMBecause if you try to apply Occam's Razor in the case, it certainly does not lead to the mainstream narrative!
TriffidsUncooperative plants.
Maybe the reason for K and B's trip was to buy guns - they spent their money- the murder of the couple was a robbery gone wrong. I don't know - its just speculation - I'm still grappling with the suicides. I really thought their cause of death was going to be hyperthermia and not suicide - otherwise, why kill yourself in the bush? Forensics should be able to determine the time of death more precisely than what we know currently. For example, IMO, a body decomposing in the bush for 5 days vs, 10 days should be quite different.
Plus I think most people in BC/Yukon are more likely to take bear spray than a gun for protection.I know an awful lot of academics and I can assure you that they do not travel with guns. Guns and academics are two things that do not go together in one sentence.
Wiki sez "Suicide was decriminalized in Canada in 1972."Hmmm, I always thought the shift in terminology was to be more specific, to indicate death, kinda like concussions are referred to as brain injuries. And I think I thought that because I thought suicides are a crime in Canada. Ya, they are, right?
Yep, this is what I think also.So here's how my thinking has shifted on what went down:
Previously I thought they went down the river by boat right after they set the RAV4 on fire. RCMP says they were alive and in the area for at least a few days after that. I now realize that it's possible that they set the boat and unneeded gear in the river as both a decoy and taunt to police, and could have traveled on foot along 290, diving in the bush when a vehicle was heard and becoming almost instantly invisible as we have seen in the RCMP videos.
People keep asking why they would have set the truck and camper on fire and signaled their presence at the crime scene, and provided a direct link to them? I mean, how stupid if you want to remain undetected. Why set the RAV4 on fire? If they had not, how long would it be before someone decided to check out an abandoned vehicle outside of an abandoned town? And if they never used the boat, why fill it up with things and send it down the rapids?
These were intentional, brazen statements. They wanted to signal to people that they were out there alive and still dangerous, that they were faster and smarter than LE. In the heat of the chase people were saying these boys were geniuses. I think they wanted to die notorious and made the chase, and their fast escapes, as newsworthy as possible. Did their story grip the nation? The world? Yes. And Dad: "Kudos, boys!"
All of a sudden with word that there were two guns, I realize there is no dominant leader and submissive follower. They were both armed, they were equal, they were a team. They both spent a lot of time gaming as a team against others and they were united in this: no one was being dragged along.
I think they never ever wanted to be found. They were ok to die knowing they had left behind a trail of havoc and were certain to win fame and notoriety. That's the motive: live fast, die young, be notorious.
Cowards. They are cowards. Everything they did was cowardly.