Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #9

[Trooper]

Gillam Weather (temperatures in Celsius).

Tonight: Clear. Becoming partly cloudy this evening. Low 12.

Wed, 31 Jul: A mix of sun and cloud. 30 percent chance of showers late in the afternoon. High 25. Humidex 27. UV index 6 or high.

Night: Mainly cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. Clearing before morning. Risk of a thunderstorm in the evening. Low 13.

Gillam, MB - 7 Day Forecast - Environment Canada

Bonjour à tous les frères et soeurs canadiens de la chasse, un autre jour, eh?

A shoutout to RRstren for the weather every day without fail, and every evening, always in Celcius, which God himself intended all weather to be measured, for civilized people!

They didn't just evaporate into thin air. They, or their bones , are out there. Nothing negative to say about the organization of the RCMP , knowing the capability of people to not be found when they don't want to be, and the implacable force of nature the RCMP is up against every day of it's search.

Just to fill in time, before you toddle off to nightynights.. some comparisons re RCMP and AUPOL.. the similarities of distance, isolation and terrain that both Orgs face, and that mighty enemy, weather.

Some, actually most of, traffic on the road you will have to pass at some stage. ….

Massive roadtrains on the Great Northern Highway, WA in Outback Australia

 

[SiciC]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1578494531849/

This is a link to the full interview with the man that pulled out Kam and Bryer's stuck SUV, for anyone who hasn't heard it. Pretty interesting. He said they were polite, quiet guys that seemed like they were raised right.

Hopefully this link is allowed

 

[copkid]

Nice idea, but BC Highway Safety Regulations dictate that they have to do that somewhere other than the side of the highway.

JMO.....One would think that the "road workers" that saw the van would know the BC Highway Safety Regulations, I wonder why they did not call the police to report the disabled vehicle?

 

[Betty P]

A lot of folks on social media are criticizing LE for not being able to find these guys.

Sure their technology can make it easier to find people on the run.

Doesn't necessarily make it easier to find dead bodies.

Could be a good reason they're so hard to find...

There are many reasons that make a manhunt difficult in this case. It's an extremely remote, vast, unpopulated area with few roads or trails and extremely difficult terrain. People often thing tracking dogs and FLIR equipment are miraculous tools that work every time. They don't. Look at any missing persons case here at WS where the person went missing in remote forested areas. I seldom recall any recent case where someone was found by heat detecting equipment or scent dogs. And those are people who want to be found.

Real world searches aren't like a video game or movie.

I also wasn't aware the RCMP had given up on the case. I've no doubt they're still working and investigating. There will probably be plenty of officers left behind to keep an eye out if the two scumbags reappear.

 

[MistyWaters]

Thank you. There has been many people in this series of threads worried about a conspiracy behind where the camper is.

Here it is.

Thread 3 - post 22. Three different photos including the blue tarp as well.
CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #3

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
To answer questions regarding the above photos of the active scene, with the burnt truck that was driven by #Schmegelsky and McLeod: we're told by @BCRCMP the truck's fibreglass camper melted in the fire. The structure on the left was built by arson investigators. /1 @GlobalBC

 

[gitana1]

People stopped to offer help, and they could have flagged someone down for help. People had disabled vehicles before cell phones were invented, so cell phone service is not a reason to do nothing about a disabled vehicle. Furthermore, if the van was still disabled in the morning, they had to call a tow truck one way or another.

Wait. Are we seriously criticizing these people for not immediately adhering to some obscure highway regulation when they determined their vehicle wasn't working?

There are a lot of variables at play. Like the fact that Lucas probably tried to fix it. Because he knew how to do that. Or maybe because after that failed they decided to sleep in the vehicle overnight before trying to get assistance?

Lack of cell phone service is absolutely a reason not to immediately act regarding a disabled vehicle. So is be ability to do repair work on one's own.

Rhetorical question but why is there always so much criticism in cases like this? Criticism of victims, LE, volunteers, witnesses.

What the point of it?

 

[Gardenista]

This is becoming a complete clown show

Contrary to previous media reports, Saunders said he didn't notice any maps or camping gear in the vehicle — just two boxes and a suit.

"I didn't see no camping gear, no maps, no weapons, no drugs or alcohol."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/first-nation-constable-stopped-homicide-suspects-1.5230779

 

[1987]

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[jillybean51]

Just saw something chilling.CBC reported that now the constable that searches the RAV4 claims he saw no weapons, maps only 2 boxes and a SUIT.Either it was Prof L’s suit or BS took the time to transfer the black suit that he bought?Can’t imagine that though.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/first-nation-constable-stopped-homicide-suspects-1.5230779

 

[cody22]

Bonjour à tous les frères et soeurs canadiens de la chasse, un autre jour, eh?

A shoutout to RRstren for the weather every day without fail, and every evening, always in Celcius, which God himself intended all weather to be measured, for civilized people!

They didn't just evaporate into thin air. They, or their bones , are out there. Nothing negative to say about the organization of the RCMP , knowing the capability of people to not be found when they don't want to be, and the implacable force of nature the RCMP is up against every day of it's search.

Just to fill in time, before you toddle off to nightynights.. some comparisons re RCMP and AUPOL.. the similarities of distance, isolation and terrain that both Orgs face, and that mighty enemy, weather.

Some, actually most of, traffic on the road you will have to pass at some stage. ….

Massive roadtrains on the Great Northern Highway, WA in Outback Australia

I am trying to find some good LE videos of the US Border Patrol rounding up illegal immigrants outside Del Rio, Texas. Vast amounts of ranch land there. Yall will love them......moo

 

[jillybean51]

This is becoming a complete clown show

Contrary to previous media reports, Saunders said he didn't notice any maps or camping gear in the vehicle — just two boxes and a suit.

"I didn't see no camping gear, no maps, no weapons, no drugs or alcohol."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/first-nation-constable-stopped-homicide-suspects-1.5230779

Sorry just posted a duplication.

 

[minn77]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5230779?__twitter_impression=true no maps seen in stop check, only 2 boxes and a suit

 

[greenfern]

"Contrary to previous media reports, Saunders said he didn't notice any maps or camping gear in the vehicle — just two boxes and a suit.

"I didn't see no camping gear, no maps, no weapons, no drugs or alcohol."

'They seemed paranoid'"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/first-nation-constable-stopped-homicide-suspects-1.5230779 <-not the Daily Mail

edit: apologies. Everyone seems to have posted this at once

 

[Only4Justice]

I’d like to know why the comments on DM are disabled on this story.

At least for me they are. IMO

 

[MistyWaters]

JMO.....One would think that the "road workers" that saw the van would know the BC Highway Safety Regulations, I wonder why they did not call the police to report the disabled vehicle?

I don’t recall, did either of them notice the van prior to 11:30pm sighting when it probably appeared at a glance two vehicles had pulled over onto the side of the road for the drivers to engage in some sort of conversation, then when the trucker reported the crime scene and the paramedic was called?

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Bonjour à tous les frères et soeurs canadiens de la chasse, un autre jour, eh?

A shoutout to RRstren for the weather every day without fail, and every evening, always in Celcius, which God himself intended all weather to be measured, for civilized people!

They didn't just evaporate into thin air. They, or their bones , are out there. Nothing negative to say about the organization of the RCMP , knowing the capability of people to not be found when they don't want to be, and the implacable force of nature the RCMP is up against every day of it's search.

Just to fill in time, before you toddle off to nightynights.. some comparisons re RCMP and AUPOL.. the similarities of distance, isolation and terrain that both Orgs face, and that mighty enemy, weather.

Some, actually most of, traffic on the road you will have to pass at some stage. ….

Massive roadtrains on the Great Northern Highway, WA in Outback Australia

Hey Trooper,

Some of what’s in those videos is highly analogous. Just add dense forest, muskeg and zillions of lakes/rivers.

Note for viewers re the second video: Here in New York, and maybe elsewhere in North America, it is blocked, but the link to YouTube works.

I’ve been to New Zealand, have to make it to Australia.

Celsius forever

 

[greenfern]

I’d like to know why the comments on DM are disabled on this story.

At least for me they are. IMO

If I had to guess, it's so they don't get called out for all the potential inaccuracies. They were getting slammed pretty hard before and deservedly so.

 

[1987]

One picture i saw of the truck had part of the camper burnt in the picture and it was still on the truck

do you have a link to the pic of the camper partly burnt on the truck? I had looked and couldn't find any that had this. thanks.

 

[Trooper]

Hey Trooper,

Some of what’s in those videos is highly analogous. Just add dense forest, muskeg and zillions of lakes/rivers

Note for viewers re the second video: Here in New York, and maybe elsewhere in North America, it is blocked, but the link to YouTube works.

Celsius forever

only the colour is different, Rrstren. And the temperature, certainly. And the utter absence of water, dust is the main element.

The other difference, is, no large predatory animals in the outback. Biggest thing is a Big Red Kangaroo, and they are less inclined to parley around with humans than most animals. Insects, not quite on a par with sandflies and blackflies and no-see-ums, way up north, crocodiles.

Snakes.. sure. Lethal and invisible. But no bears, no moose, no nothing even approaching that size.

 

[Betty P]

This is becoming a complete clown show

Contrary to previous media reports, Saunders said he didn't notice any maps or camping gear in the vehicle — just two boxes and a suit.

"I didn't see no camping gear, no maps, no weapons, no drugs or alcohol."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/first-nation-constable-stopped-homicide-suspects-1.5230779

I think it's just sloppy reporting. IIRC, in the video linked above, he said he saw some survival gear, etc. Not sure why the guy would lie about it or change his story. Until we hear otherwise, I'm going with mistakes in news reporting. Which happens often, especially when stories are being covered by reporters who a long way from the action.