I think it was the family websiteDo you remember this source?
I think it was the family websiteDo you remember this source?
Probably the 48 hrs episode?Do you remember this source?
I believe it was the family website message boardyes - how do you know that is what the x's mean?
Seems like a weird coincidence. On the flip side if they were involved would they not want to distance themselves by any evidence that could be found on their property.So they were the last to leave the party and where Maddy was found....
Maddy was found on the Black family farm as far as I know. I don't know that we know definitively that they were last to leave the party.So they were the last to leave the party and where Maddy was found....
If you type in the address from the news report this is what comes upMaddy was found on the Black family farm as far as I know. I don't know that we know definitively that they were last to leave the party.
Re-checked, you are correct, at 22:30 in the podcast she said 'sober drivers' not 'sober truckers'. (my bad!)Nothing is said about sober truckers. Other sober drivers, yes, no sober "truckers.
At 22:30 in the podcast she said 'sober drivers' not 'sober truckers'. (my bad!)I just listened to this again (2nd time) and I don't hear anything about any truckers showing up?
Unfortunately, I don't anticipate they will find DNA from the suspect(s). Madison’s remains would be a disarticulated skeleton at this point. While her clothing and personal effects might be co-located with her remains, any touch or transfer DNA from the perp would likely be highly degraded due to environmental exposure after this many years. Other forensic evidence from the suspect is possible, but then again, if one or more of the suspects resides on the property, expect any defense to suggest other ways that it could have become co-located with her remains.The supect(s) RCMP probably already have in vision stayed silence for 12 years. This case now seems very solvable to me BUT still can be complicated if the suspect(s) just won't talk and there is no hard-evidence. Fingers crossed they found some useable DNA.
Yes, it will not be easy. However I read an old article from 2013 where they said:Unfortunately, I don't anticipate they will find DNA from the suspect(s). Madison’s remains would be a disarticulated skeleton at this point. While her clothing and personal effects might be co-located with her remains, any touch or transfer DNA from the perp would likely be highly degraded due to environmental exposure after this many years. Other forensic evidence from the suspect is possible, but then again, if one or more of the suspects resides on the property, expect any defense to suggest other ways that it could have become co-located with her remains.
They are still on the property investigating (allegedly). Usually if LE is there this long, it means they found more than they bargained for. Maybe there’s more missing persons remains on that property. The Picton farm was a long search too...Yes, it will not be easy. However I read an old article from 2013 where they said:
"If a body is left out in the sun and rain, its DNA will be useful for testing for only a few weeks. If it’s buried a few feet below the ground, the DNA will last about 1,000 to 10,000 years." ( How Long Does DNA Last? )
Not sure if this is the same for any co-located DNA though? The article is 10 years old and the technology has advanced a lot since. But like you said, even if they succeed and get a 'match' the suspect(s) still can say they may had 'physical' contact but that was during the party.....
Next thing I hope they will do is trace the cars/quads they had then and check these with blood & cadaver dogs.
But finding some personal belongings of Maddy like the iphone or the car keys in possesion would be the best.
Somebody knows if they are still searching the property?
yes, but was Pickton charged before they started searching the property. Concerning that no one has been charged yet.They are still on the property investigating (allegedly). Usually if LE is there this long, it means they found more than they bargained for. Maybe there’s more missing persons remains on that property. The Picton farm was a long search too...
I hear you, the Scott family already suffered so much, we can't even imagine..... and I'm afraid this is still far from over.Whoever did it should man up and speak the truth! do the time! Get it over with! Go to jail and do the right thing. What kind of life can be had living with that kind of lie?
The truth will set you free
been combing through those msgs, cant find itI believe it was the family website message board
Well, there could be many reasons - some not so good:I wonder how a passer-by stumbled upon the remains? Does that mean they were uncovered naturally (assuming they were buried) by weather? Or perhaps were never buried but simply scattered somewhere or placed in a bag? And what passer-by was on somebody else’s rural property? Unless it was a new owner, or friend/relative on the property how often are people ‘passing by’ walking across somebody else’s land??
But there is no such thing like "Hwy of Tears" case really.I am assuming that Madison's murder is in a different category than the Hwy of Tears case anyways, all IMO.
No need to know the property that well, it may be as little as being there once and knowing-someone-who-knows-the-owner's-habits-well (for example: when they're out of town) - of course that's much less likely than someone who has good excuse to visit such property (visit, drop off or pick up something) but a possibility still.Yeah, that's kinda why I think it might be a local knowing the property. I have never been even close to that part of BC, but from Google Earth it looks like there are several dirt roads that run around/ by the property. Might not be difficult to drive there at night and dump someone/ something without the owners even knowing. After all, I don't think it has been made public where exactly on the property Madison was found.