Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #1

[Penelope]

Interesting point. I can say that Tweed is a VERY small town, and not much happens up there that tells them that they should lock them. I don't recall if September was warm, and I hate to have this posted on the web but my widows have locks, but my screens pop out. So if my window is open at night in the warm weather my screens simply pop out (O o O I can see where I will be changing that as soon as possible!) But seeing as how he has admitted to many cases of lingerie burglary I think he's practiced enough to get in and out without making any noise. But that is just my thought on it

Since my husband's death, I have continued to live in a house in a rural area near "cottage country" -- I have one neighbor barely within shouting distance and the others are more than a half-mile away. In the summer, I leave my windows open (just screens, no central air.) The difference is that I have 3 medium to large-sized dogs and they will alert me to anyone who comes near or onto the property, day or night. And they are light sleepers.

However, if the victims did not have a dog (or the type of dog who will bark and get agitated if a stranger tries to enter your house), and it is a warm night and the windows are open, it would be easy for someone to enter.

I find that most people in rural settings have dogs because they do keep strangers away from the property or at least bark when someone drives by or into your driveway. When I am at work and hear the dogs bark -- I immediately get up to see what's going on.

 

[Dee10]

Dee--

I want to make sure I and everyone understands this correctly.

You are saying that Williams was not involved in Stafford's death, correct?

tia,

Hoppy

That is correct, Williams was not involved in Stafford's death. Christie said it was a badly worded sentence.

 

[RubyRed]

Former air force Sgt. Bob Gagne said he's "devastated" over the charges laid against his friend and former neighbour Russ Williams.

Gagne, who lived across the street from Williams and his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman, for 13 years, said the man he knows and the one currently in jail accused of murders and sexual assaults are two different people.

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2444345

 

[RubyRed]

Williams went to Scarborough High School

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/02/11/12840251.html

 

[Paladine]

confirmation re; brown paper...wonder if he brought women there?

"OPP forensic identification investigators arrived at the home of Col. Russell Williams on Edison Street at about 12:20 p.m. Thursday.

The officers were carrying stacks of flat boxes, garbage bags and a large roll of brown paper that they used to cover all the windows.

Currently, about 10 investigators and uniformed OPP officers are inside the house searching for evidence."

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/02/11/12840731.html

 

[Paladine]

Former air force Sgt. Bob Gagne said he's "devastated" over the charges laid against his friend and former neighbour Russ Williams.

Gagne, who lived across the street from Williams and his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman, for 13 years, said the man he knows and the one currently in jail accused of murders and sexual assaults are two different people.

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2444345

My heart goes out to Family and Friends....but...reports are Williams led them to the body of Jessica. Methinks he best start believing.

 

[Summersolstice]

Williams went to Scarborough High School

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/02/11/12840251.html

Just wanted to add that the years he spent at UCC, which has some illustrious alumni, should in no way be construed as providing him with good character.

Last summer, an alumnus of an exclusive boarding school in B.C. led police on a cross-border chase that culminated in his suicide. The U.S. authorities said that the man, an aspiring reality-TV star. had murdered and dismembered his wife. The school in question has a famous alumnus: a cabinet minister serving in the Harper government.

 

[nobodyzgirl]

I find this blog, it's actually quite interesting and does say right from the get go, there is a lot of speculation in his blog, though it does make one think how much work LE, etc. are going to have to do and go through because RW travelled a lot over his entire military career (or at least it made me think about that).

http://blog.canoe.ca/parker/2010/02/10/military_murder_mystery_or_just_a_desert

 

[RubyRed]

Home of Col. Russell Williams
A team of forensics investigators descended upon the Westboro home of Col. Russell Williams just before 12:30 p.m. Thursday.http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/videos/index.html#KzsjBNz6Ef2Ti9qsTYKX3ke8_FrlOSBI
(video)

talks about his Westboro neighbour, Col. Russell Williams, who faces homicide charges.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Video+Russell+Williams+Ottawa+home/2541645/story.html

Did I hear that correctly, neighbour was going to give Williams a key to his house ?
Yikes,,so creepy.

 

[Paladine]

A little family background...seems this Fella came from an upstanding family, a calm step-father, Mr. Sovka...people who serve others...what the heck happened??

While he lived in Tweed as base commander and shared a house in Ottawa with his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman, Williams kept his link to Toronto through his mother, Nonie Sovka, a physiotherapist at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre. His brother, Harvey Williams, is a doctor in Bowmanville, the Globe reported.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...s-stepfather-can-t-figure-down-murder-charges

 

[Summersolstice]

This article is cause for concern:

http://www.canada.com/news/Police+search+Williams+Ottawa+home+murder+probe/2550481/story.html

Meanwhile, Ottawa police inspectors will lead the search for links between the murders Williams has been charged with and unsolved cases in Ottawa, including the violent 2007 sexual assault of a Carleton University student.

"We're pulling cases right now, but don't have enough info from OPP," said Ottawa police Chief Vern White. "We're examining our cases from the modus operandi."

Let's hope the review of cold cases and active unsolved cases will not rely strictly on MO. Some perps change their MO, and even the demographics of their victims.

 

[hellinor]

IS anyone else finding it odd that a scientist is also missing from Ottawa, Lachlan Cranswick,
who also worked for the Atomic Energy Laboratories? His front door was open and his wallet, GPS etc were still inside the house. There is a thread for him here at WS. I just found it odd.

I am almost certain I read somewhere that Jessica's front and back door were open. Now, my first thought was 'does open mean just unlocked, or wide open?' In both cases it's not 100% clear, but if both were left wide open that seems a bit fishy.

I searched desperately for where I had seen that, IIRC it was a female neighbour of Jessica's who had said the doors were open. In my search I came across this,which is completely contradictory:

"According to a Facebook group dealing with the loss of Jessica Lloyd, her back door had been kicked in. That allegation has yet to be verified. "

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/287253

 

[Paladine]

This article is cause for concern:

http://www.canada.com/news/Police+search+Williams+Ottawa+home+murder+probe/2550481/story.html

Meanwhile, Ottawa police inspectors will lead the search for links between the murders Williams has been charged with and unsolved cases in Ottawa, including the violent 2007 sexual assault of a Carleton University student.

"We're pulling cases right now, but don't have enough info from OPP," said Ottawa police Chief Vern White. "We're examining our cases from the modus operandi."

Let's hope the review of cold cases and active unsolved cases will not rely strictly on MO. Some perps change their MO, and even the demographics of their victims.

I hope the OPP moves and provides Ottawa Police with what they need...everything they need. I am really concerned about Kelly Morriseau's case...and her poor baby. Maybe it wasn't him...but these victims deserve to have every stone turned.

 

[Summersolstice]

I am almost certain I read somewhere that Jessica's front and back door were open. Now, my first thought was 'does open mean just unlocked, or wide open?' In both cases it's not 100% clear, but if both were left wide open that seems a bit fishy.

I searched desperately for where I had seen that, IIRC it was a female neighbour of Jessica's who had said the doors were open. In my search I came across this,which is completely contradictory:

"According to a Facebook group dealing with the loss of Jessica Lloyd, her back door had been kicked in. That allegation has yet to be verified. "

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/287253

There are only two charges of break and enter against him, and those were in the Tweed sexaul assaults. The murder charges in both Marie-France Comeau's case and Jessica Lloyd's do not mention forcible entry.

 

[hellinor]

http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2010/02/10/12813891.html

Four months before the London attack, Kathleen MacVicar, 19, was found brutally murdered at CFB Trenton and that case was linked by investigators to the London case.

OMG this is my hometown and neighbourhood (London attack)...... I though Tori was close to home! Until recently I thought things like this only happen in America, but since joining WS I'm learning it's the style of reporting that gets it out there. Michael Morre pointed out in Farenheit 911 that America's news attampts to scare the public. Is Canada's lulling the public into a false sense of security/safety?

 

[Paladine]

Since my husband's death, I have continued to live in a house in a rural area near "cottage country" -- I have one neighbor barely within shouting distance and the others are more than a half-mile away. In the summer, I leave my windows open (just screens, no central air.) The difference is that I have 3 medium to large-sized dogs and they will alert me to anyone who comes near or onto the property, day or night. And they are light sleepers.

However, if the victims did not have a dog (or the type of dog who will bark and get agitated if a stranger tries to enter your house), and it is a warm night and the windows are open, it would be easy for someone to enter.

I find that most people in rural settings have dogs because they do keep strangers away from the property or at least bark when someone drives by or into your driveway. When I am at work and hear the dogs bark -- I immediately get up to see what's going on.

I'm a widow, too...it's a gift to love a man till the day he dies, imo...and my real name is Penny!

I hear you on the locked doors. We come from a rural area where people rarely lock doors, we have no crime. I do not recall one police incident in my small village of 500. Except for an occasional fight at the local bar... It can provide a false sense of security when a slimeball like Williams slithers in...

 

[RubyRed]

I find this blog, it's actually quite interesting and does say right from the get go, there is a lot of speculation in his blog, though it does make one think how much work LE, etc. are going to have to do and go through because RW travelled a lot over his entire military career (or at least it made me think about that).

http://blog.canoe.ca/parker/2010/02/10/military_murder_mystery_or_just_a_desert

This article in the link is quite interesting, I agree they have a lot of work ahead of them. Thanks nobodyzgirl for that blog.


So what does Cpl. Brendan Anthony Downey’s death have to do with Col. Russ Williams?

Only this: Downey was a military policeman.

And here is where I get into total hypothetical speculation. There is nothing to substantiate this speculation — just a lot of What If? What If? — but it is easy enough to disprove (which I will address later).

IF Williams is guilty of the crimes of which he is accused and IF the events of the past year in the Bay of Quinte area were preceded by an ongoing history of predatory sexual attacks, WHAT IF there were attacks — and some evidence of attacks — in Dubai? And WHAT IF Cpl. Downey, the military policeman, became aware after the fact of certain allegations and passed that information up the chain of command?

Like I said, a lot of WHAT IFs — far too many for my liking.

But IF those WHAT IFs unfolded in that way, the fact that Williams — IF he was made aware of accusations — was nowhere near Camp Mirage would be no impediment to him going to Camp Mirage whenever he wanted.

Williams at that time was project director for all the Canadian military airlift capability projects. It would be nothing for him to drive a couple of hours south to CFB Trenton and jump a flight to Camp Mirage. After all, that would just be part of his job.

So forget all the WHAT IFs. All the National Investigation Service has to do is determine if Williams was on any flight manifests that would have put him in Camp Mirage in early July 2008.

If he wasn’t there, that’s one more wild goose chase to write off. But it still needs to be followed up on.

The police — local, OPP, RCMP and military — will have to follow up on literally hundreds of possibilities like that over the coming months.

Because this case is … unbelievable. So the most unbelievable possibilities have to be chased down and either ruled out — or confirmed.
http://blog.canoe.ca/parker/2010/02/10/military_murder_mystery_or_just_a_desert

 

[Dee10]

Williams, who is being held at the Quinte Detention Centre, near Napanee in eastern Ontario, spoke with the prison chaplain Thursday, an official said, but declined a chance to speak to a reporter.
"He's not interested in an interview," said Larry Shorts, the deputy superintendent of the barbed-wire complex.
The remand centre houses a wide range of offenders, in minimum-security dorms to maximum-security cells shared by two or three inmates.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Police+begin+search+Williams+Ottawa+home/2550481/story.html

 

[Hazel]

I guess we will soon be needing a new thread. Please Mods
Thank you!

 

[Summersolstice]

I couldn't believe it when I read the wrong name either. I would be nice if the media would pay closer attention to things like that and get the correct spelling and names of people they are reporting on.

I saw a correction notice in the Globe apologizing for calling Colonel Williams "Colonel Russell".