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Dennis Oland defence abruptly withdraws cellphone witness at murder retrial
Oland lawyer accuses Crown of trying to ambush defence with unknown line of questioning


Mar 05, 2019

"Dennis Oland's defence team began presenting its case at his murder retrial Tuesday, but abruptly withdrew one of its witnesses before he provided any evidence, accusing the Crown of trying to ambush the defence.

Lead defence lawyer Alan Gold had planned to have Gregory Baumeister, a core network specialist with the telecommunications company Ericsson, testify about attempts by Saint John police and Rogers Communications to locate Richard Oland's missing cellphone.

The retrial has heard efforts to "ping" the phone came back with a "roaming error" message.

What that means or how it's significant to the defence has not yet been revealed, but Gold has said the defence misunderstood some of the cellphone-related evidence at Dennis Oland's first trial in the 2011 bludgeoning death of his father....

During Oland's first trial, the Crown and defence submitted an agreed statement that roaming error could mean one of three things:

-The phone is registered on a foreign network with which Rogers doesn't have a roaming agreement.

-Rogers can't locate the phone because records of its location have been purged after a period of inactivity, with no calls, texts or data access.

- location of the phone can't be obtained for "some unspecified reason."

At that time, the Crown argued police asked Rogers to perform the so-called "forced registration" to try to obtain the GPS co-ordinates of the victim's missing iPhone on July 7, 2011, the day the victim's body was discovered. The defence said it was on July 9, 2011.

The parties have since reversed positions for reasons that have not yet been explained in court.

MLA is defence's 1st witness

Earlier Tuesday, the defence called Saint John Harbour Liberal MLA Gerry Lowe as its first witness...."


Dennis Oland defence abruptly withdraws cellphone witness at murder retrial | CBC News
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Brett Ruskin‏Verified account @Brett_CBC 2h2 hours ago
In Saint John today, Dennis Oland is expected to take the stand. He’s accused of killing his millionaire father, Richard Oland, in 2011.

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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Back at Saint John Law Courts. Day 41 of Dennis Oland retrial about to get underway. Anticipation that Oland will begin testifying in his own defence today @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Big day at Dennis Oland's 2nd-degree murder retrial in the 2011 bludgeoning death of his father. #Oland is expected to testify in his own defence today.

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Retrial is scheduled to start in #SaintJohn's Court of Queen's Bench at 9:30 a.m. AT. Courtroom is slowly filling up, but nothing compared to the shoulder-to-shoulder crowd at his first trial in 2015.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
#Oland defence team's blood spatter expert, Patrick Laturnus, a retired RCMP forensic specialist turned consultant and instructor, pictured here in 2015, is in the courtroom. Looking like he might testify before Oland. Stay tuned...

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Dennis Oland arriving for court his morning. His mother Connie, uncle uncle Derek Oland (the victim's brother and the executive chairman of Moosehead Breweries Ltd.), aunt Jacqueline and uncle Jack Connell are here showing their support this morning.

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
About 20 other spectators in the public gallery so far, plus about 10 reporters.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Justice Terrence Morrison is seated. Dennis #Oland murder retrial is in session.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Court about to get underway. Crown prosecutor Jill Knee is already on her feet at the lectern @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Lead defence lawyer Alan Gold announces the defence's next witness is a toxicology expert - Joel Mayer. His evidence is being submitted by way of a written affidavit instead of him being questioned on the witness stand. Crown will be cross-examining him though.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Court underway. Toxicologist Doctor Joel Mayer is the next witness. His evidence is being presented via affidavit by the defence and then subject to cross examination by the Crown. Justice Morrison adjourns court for about 15 minutes to review the document. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Defence seeks to have him declared an expert. Court takes short recess so the judge can read the affidavit and review his CV.


Mike Cameron‏ @MikeCameronCTV 48m48 minutes ago
Defence places into exhibit an affidavit from a toxicologist. Dr Joel Mayer is in court and ready to be cross examined but judge has left court to read the document first. Some question about how much alcohol was consumed by Richard Oland before he died, and when.
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 51m51 minutes ago
Court resumes. Dr. Mater takes the stand, sworn as an expert in toxicology and the effects alcohol on the body and the body’s absorption of alcohol etc. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 58m58 minutes ago
Oland retrial is back in session. Judge declares Mayer and expert able to give opinion evidence re. toxicological analysis of bodily fluids, affects of alcohol on human body and body's elimination of alcohol and other drugs


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 48m48 minutes ago
The Crown's toxicologist Dr. Albert Fraser previously testified he found trace amounts of alcohol in Richard Oland's urine. but none in the blood or vitreous humour (eye fluid). In his report, Fraser said his findings indicated "alcohol consumption several hours prior to death,"


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
When Fraser testified at the retrial, he said: "I think if I were to do it again, I would say, 'It's consistent with'" alcohol consumption several hours prior to death, rather than "indicates."


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Richard Oland's secretary Maureen Adamson and his business associate Robert McFadden have previously testified no alcohol was kept in the office, other than an old can of Alpine.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Neither of them saw Oland leave the office on July 6, 2011, the day he was killed - although Adamson stepped out to get him some pizza for lunch and McFadden left for a few minutes to the bank.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Forensic toxicologist Joel Mayer (on right) arriving at the Saint John courthouse this morning with Dennis Oland's lead defence lawyer Alan Gold

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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 48m48 minutes ago
Mayer is asked if 9mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood would change his opinion stated in his affidavit which referenced 16mg per 100ml. He says it would not change his opinion (cont’d)@Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 47m47 minutes ago
Mayer says his opinion would be consistent with the possibility of consumption of a small amount of alcohol prior to death. This is in reference to toxicology tests on Richard Oland @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 41m41 minutes ago
Crown prosecutor Jill Knee is handling cross-examination of Mayer. Your affidavit was sworn on Feb. 13, 2019? Yes. You were provided with lab results in 2015? Yes. You set those aside and didn't look at them again? Yes, not until Dec. 2018 when contacted again by counsel


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 39m39 minutes ago
Knee suggests Mayer formulated his opinion based on a set of assumptions that were provided to him by the defence. True.
And those assumptions allowed you to calculate your reverse calculation re possible consumption? Yes


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 41m41 minutes ago
Knee argues reverse calculation re. alcohol is urine is difficult due to voiding process. If a person failed to void for several hours or only partially voided, would affect anything you could say as to when alcohol consumption took place?


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 39m39 minutes ago
Mayer says he's not trying to calculate when consumption took place. Was asked by the defence whether it's possible for alcohol to show up in the urine before it shows up in blood immediately after a drink and he says it's possible


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 34m34 minutes ago
Presumably Mayer is here to suggest Richard Oland may have consumed alcohol shortly before his death in contradiction of crown expert Albert Fraser who suggested some alcohol in Okand’s urine but not blood or eye fluids suggested consumption several hours earlier.


Kevin Worrell‏ @kevinhworrell 28m28 minutes ago
Alan Gold asking about assumptions from the matter. Mayer says 9 mg/100ml of blood does not change conclusion that small amount of alcohol was consumed by Richard Oland one hour prior to his death.


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 25m25 minutes ago
The defence is suggesting Richard Oland was alive after Dennis Oland left his office - had a drink - and was killed shortly after.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 26m26 minutes ago
Mayer says the findings are "consistent with" consumption approx 1 hr prior to death but "not to the exclusion of" any other pattern of drinking.


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 20m20 minutes ago
The defence has previously suggested Richard Oland could have stepped out for a drink before returning to the office and being murdered - although there has been no evidence of anyone seeing him or serving him that evening.


Kevin Worrell‏ @kevinhworrell 19m19 minutes ago
Knee know going over results of chromatogram results done on body fluids from Richard Oland. Based on this particular chromatogram there was no alcohol found in whole blood or eye fluid.



Mike Cameron‏ @MikeCameronCTV 12m12 minutes ago
Knee questions the witness’s calculations and findings regarding alcohol content in Richard Oland’s body.
She says “the drinking could have occurred at any other time” prior to death.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 7m7 minutes ago
Knee points out tests show no ethanol in the whole blood of Richard Oland, just in urine. Knee argues any consumption of alcohol could have taken place several hours prior to death @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 25m25 minutes ago
Mayer is done. No redirect by Gold.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 44m44 minutes ago
Mayer says if a larger amount of alcohol was consumed several hours prior some alcohol could still show up. Knee concludes cross examination with no redirect from the defence. Court takes morning break @Global_NB #Oland
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 49m49 minutes ago
The next witness will be Patrick Laturness, a blood pattern analyst. Dennis Oland is, at this point, expected to testify this afternoon @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 27m27 minutes ago
Court resumes. Patrick Laturness takes the stand. Defence is seeking to have him declared an expert in blood stain pattern analysis @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 30m30 minutes ago
Oland defence lawyer Alan Gold calls bloodstain pattern analyst Patrick Laturnus to the stand.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 22m22 minutes ago
Gold is going over Laturnus' training and experience. Started in forensics with RCMP in 1975. In 1991 he was certified as a bloodstain pattern analyst. Was a forensics instructor at the Cdn Police College 95-2001, Ontario Police College 2001-07. Consulting biz in Ottawa since


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 23m23 minutes ago
Crown prosecutor P.J. Venoit takes no issue with Laturnus being declared an expert in bloodstain pattern analysis.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 23m23 minutes ago
Justice Morrison qualified as an expert in blood stain pattern analysis. He testified at the first trial and visited 52 Canterbury Street long after the murder @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 23m23 minutes ago
He said he was surprised at the height of the ceiling in the office. He says nothing hit the ceiling because of its height. Visiting the site was useful he said @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 21m21 minutes ago
Gold asks if Laturnus visited the crime scene. Yes. Beneficial? "I found it useful, yes," he says. "Able to get a sense of the space."


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 21m21 minutes ago
Gold had earlier suggested the defence would apply for the court to visit the office space at 52 Canterbury Street @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 22m22 minutes ago
The defence has applied to have the judge visit the crime scene. Background:

Dennis Oland defence abruptly withdraws cellphone witness at murder retrial | CBC News


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 20m20 minutes ago
Laturness describes blood spatter all the way around the body. Judge warned of especially graphic photos to be shown @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 21m21 minutes ago
Laturnus also reviewed the crime scene photos. Large amount of blood on the floor and spatter was 360 degrees, he says. (Court exhibit)

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Kevin Worrell‏ @kevinhworrell 5m5 minutes ago
Justice Morrison gives graphic photo warning to those in the courtroom. Shows close up autopsy photo of Richard Oland’s head. Amount of force determines the amount of blood spatter


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 21m21 minutes ago
Judge warns the public gallery some graphic photos are about to be displayed on a large monitor in the courtroom. Anyone who's "squeamish" or has any difficulty with these types of images might want to leave, he says.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 5m5 minutes ago
Court is shown autopsy photo of the head area of Richard Oland. Laturness says the amount of force used is related to the amount of spatter @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 20m20 minutes ago
A particularly graphic photo - a closeup of Richard Oland's head from the autopsy, showing the deep gashes and skull fractures - being displayed for first time during the retrial


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 3m3 minutes ago
Laturnus is shown a graphic image from the autopsy of injuries to Richard Oland’s head. He says the deep gashes suggest considerable force was applied - a key creator of blood spray.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 18m18 minutes ago
Laturness says sharp force blows create spatter in different directions...several directions @Global_NB #Oland
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 17m17 minutes ago
Court now shown videos of a hammer hitting an area of blood. Laturness explains how spatter would be sprayed. He says each time a blow was struck on Oland blood would fly @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 17m17 minutes ago
Oland retrial is now watching experiment videos of a hammer hitting a pool of blood to demonstrate how angle of hammer and where it hits blood source can affect direction of spatter


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 14m14 minutes ago
Laturnus says there was a lot of blood coming from Richard Oland's head and with each impact (about 40 blows to his head) that source of blood would have been "replenished"


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 16m16 minutes ago
Laturness references crime scene photo of the body of Richard Oland, again saying spatter would be 360 degrees around the deceased @Global_NB #Oland


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 13m13 minutes ago
There is blood spray everywhere says Laturnus- 360 degrees around Richard Oland’s body - particularly around his head. Blood moved both outward and upward given everywhere it landed.



Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 14m14 minutes ago
Weapon or weapons used to kill Richard Oland never identified, but he suffered both sharp- and blunt-force injuries, which left faint cross-hatch pattern. Retrial has heard police suspect it was something like a drywall hammer

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 12m12 minutes ago
When a hammer hits flat on, blood generally goes in all direction. If angled back, blood goes forward. If angled forward, blood flies backward, says Laturnus


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 4m4 minutes ago
If the weapon was short-handled, the perpetrator would have had to be bent over Richard Oland in order to continue to deliver blows once Oland was splayed on the floor, says Laturnus. Would have gotten blood on their person as spatter flew, he says


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 14m14 minutes ago
Laturness says there is also clear evidence spatter must have also gone upwards. A photo of Oland’s blood speckled desk is shown @Global_NB #Oland


Catherine Allard‏ @CAllard_RC 9m9 minutes ago
Des traces de sang sur le bureau de Richard #Oland prouvent, selon l'expert, que du sang est retombé d'en haut (éclaboussures qui auraient retombée à la vertical). " Si le sang est remonté, il aurait aussi couvert le meurtrier ", dit l'expert

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Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 6m6 minutes ago
Relatively little blood spray on Richard Oland’s desk chair suggests killer was standing in front of it and catching the blood that would have landed there otherwise he suggests.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 15m15 minutes ago
Laturness notes circular stains on Oland’s desk meaning they would have come straight down @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 16m16 minutes ago
He says the only way spatter could go straight up it would also have to hit the assailant @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 10m10 minutes ago
Laturness says because of the number and nature of blows there is evidence to show there would be blood on the assailant, “sufficient blood that you would easily see blood on the assailant” @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 9m9 minutes ago
Under questioning by defence lawyer Alan Gold Laturness says there would also be blood on the assailant’s pants and shoes @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Laturnus believes the assailant would have had "significant" spatter on him/her, given the number of blows & amount of blood. So much so, you'd be able to "easily see" it, he says


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Gold asks Laturnus about Dennis Oland's brown sports jacket, which court has heard had four small bloodstains on it and DNA matching his father's profile. If jacket had been worn during killing, Laturnus believes it would have "easily visible" blood on it.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 5m5 minutes ago
Regarding the brown jacket Laturness says the jacket would have visible spatter on it if worn by the assailant. He also couldn’t say if the blood found on the jacket were spatter stains @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 4m4 minutes ago
Laturness says the vehicle driven after the attack would have traces of blood @Global_NB #Oland



Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2m2 minutes ago
Gold references Dennis Oland’s Blackberry cell phone. Laturness says if handled by the assailant shortly after the attack he would be optimistic traces of blood would be found @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 11m11 minutes ago
Dennis Oland's brown sports jacket (Court exhibits)

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 12m12 minutes ago
What about the assailant's pants? asks Gold. Possibly more spatter than on the upper body if the assailant was bent over the victim while delivering blows, says Laturnus.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 11m11 minutes ago
Court has heard no blood was detected on Oland's pants
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 9m9 minutes ago
What about the assailant's shoes? asks Gold. There would be spatter, says Laturnus. Court has heard no blood was detected on the shoes police believe Oland was wearing the night his father was killed, or on other shoes seized from his home (Court exhibits)
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 8m8 minutes ago
What effect does heat have on blood? asks Gold. It will "actually cook the blood," says Laturnus. If it's on fabric, it will cause it to actually attach to the fabric, he says.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 7m7 minutes ago
Court has heard the brown sports jacket Oland wore when he visited his father on the night he was killed was dry cleaned the next day.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 3m3 minutes ago
How is blood removed? asks Gold. Laturnus says he's had a chance to deal with it "several times" throughout his career. Says it needs to be soaked in cold water "relatively soon" after it's deposited and it will dilute and be removed


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Any other way? asks Gold. Suppose in a machine, says Laturnus. Says he's looked at dry cleaning, starts to say it's possible some could be removed. Crown prosecutor P.J. Venoit cuts him off. I don’t think this is in his area of expertise, he says. "I'll move on," says Gold.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Gold asks what/if anything Laturnus would expect to find in the assailant's car if they drove after the attack without washing their hands. Says he would expect to find traces. Court has heard no blood was detected in Oland's Volkwagen Golf

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2m2 minutes ago
What about a Blackberry used after the attack? asks Gold. Laturnus would expect transfer. What about a reusable fabric grocery bag? Laturnus would expect transfer. And what about the weapon? Laturnus would expect "large amounts" of blood on it - some deposited with each blow


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 16m16 minutes ago
Defence asks for brief 5 minute recess @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 16m16 minutes ago
Courtroom is virtually full, obviously awaiting the testimony of Dennis Oland @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 11m11 minutes ago
Court back in session @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 16s16 seconds ago
Gold is done questioning Laturnus. Crown prosecutor P.J. Veniot will begin his cross-examination after lunch. Oland retrial resumes at 1:30 p.m.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 10m10 minutes ago
Court breaking for lunch. Crown will begin cross examination after lunch at 1:30 @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Afternoon session of Dennis Oland's 2nd-degree murder retrial is about to begin in Saint John Court of Queen's Bench. Bloodstain pattern analyst Patrick Laturnus to be cross-examined by Crown prosecutor P.J. Veniot.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 6m6 minutes ago
About six of Oland's family members and/or friends are here, approx 25 spectators (including some children) and about 10 reporters
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Dennis Oland retrial resumes. Blood stain expert Patrick Laturness being cross examined by Crown prosecutor PJ Veniot @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Before the cross examination the court discussed the application by the defence for the court(judge) to view the crime scene. Defence lawyer Michael Lacy said viewing the scene would be for the purpose of content not evidence @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Crown prosecutor Jill Knee says Crown takes no position on the defence request. "We’ll leave it to the court basically," she says. "You’ll get my decision in due course," says Justice Terrence Morrison.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
If approved, it will likely be early next week and take less than an hour, court hears. Parties agree it will not be part of the evidence. Judge says it's technically part of the trial though, questions whether it will be open to the public.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Lacy says public is "expressly excluded" in proposed list of attendees - only accused and counsel. Judge says he's only ever been involved in one site visit before. Was a civil case, "completely different."


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Lacy says it is their position the viewing would be open to the judge, lawyers and the accused. The public would be excluded. Justice Terrence Morrison says he hopes to have a ruling by Friday or Tuesday @Global_NB #Oland
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Back to the cross examination. Court warned about graphic pictures to be shown of crime scene and autopsy @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Crown prosecutor P.J. Veniot now cross-examining bloodstain pattern analyst Patrick Laturnus. Asks how many times he has testified as an expert. Laturnus says 4 times since he went into private practice in 2007.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Judge warns the public gallery some graphic photos are about to be displayed on a large monitor in the courtroom. Suggests they leave or avert their eyes if they find such things upsetting. No one leaves.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Laturness says he cant determine the volume of blood when the assailant left the scene. Veniot going over specific spatter stains.@Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Veniot asks if cast off spatter was found at the scene. No says Laturness. Veniot-Is that unusual? Laturness says it depends on the individual event. He would expect cast off spatter in this instance but did not see it. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Did you find any cast-off blood spatter in review of crime scene photos? asks Veniot. No, says Laturnus. Unusual? When blows are struck, if there isn’t a lot of motion to the weapon that’s being swung, there will be minimal castoff, says Laturnus.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Possible the weapon was not lifted high enough to cause cast-off? asks Veniot. "I think that would be fair," replies Laturnus.


Tamara Steele‏ @tamarasteele1 2h2 hours ago
A photo a shown of Richard Oland on the floor. There is a lot of blood around his head.


Robert Jones‏ @cbcjones 2h2 hours ago
You don’t know how much blood left Richard Oland’s body after the attack was over and the killer exited do you? No.


Tamara Steele‏ @tamarasteele1 2h2 hours ago
Laternus can’t say how much blood spilled from Richard Oland each time he was struck.
Veniot: “Did the assailaint move?”
Laternus: “yes, I believe he did”.


Tamara Steele‏ @tamarasteele1 2h2 hours ago
Court is seeing a graphic photo of Richard Oland’s head with several large red wounds on it. They are deep cuts. They are long and thin.


Brett Ruskin‏Verified account @Brett_CBC 2h2 hours ago
At the trial *highly graphic* photos are being shown. Picture of Richard Oland on an autopsy table, with dozens of severe head wounds. Deep red gouges behind his ears. Two pieces of skull are dangling from thick skin flaps, revealing soft pink tissue inside his head.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
You're not a medical doctor? asks Veniot. No, says Laturnus. You can’t tell us how much blood you’d expect to be dispersed? If there's a large amount of blood, I'd expect more to be dispersed than if small amount, but unable to say how much with each blow.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Blood spatter was 360 degrees, so assailant must have moved around? asks Veniot. "I believe the assailant likely did move," replies Laturnus. Don't know how much though? No, I don’t.
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Sharp-edge weapons tend to disperse blood to the sides, rather than front or back? asks Veniot. Yes, says Laturnus.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Earlier Laturness said the blood would likely go from side to side not front to back @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Laturness sticks by earlier statement that assailant would have blood spatter on them but says in some circumstances there may not be blood on the perpetrator @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Possible assailant using sharp-edge could have been moving in areas and not getting any spatter on them at all? "With that many injuries, I believe blood would go on the assailant," says Laturnus. You said "significant" amount earlier? Laturnus maintains that's appropriate term


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Fair to say another expert looking at the same scene could reach a different conclusion? asks Veniot. Laturnus agrees.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Veniot asks Laturness if he would be surprised to know not all analysts would be of the same opinion as he. Laturness says he would not be surprised @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
If assailant got blood on their footwear, as he or she walks, eventually the blood wears off until there's no indication of blood at all? asks Veniot. Yes, called rubber stamp effect, says Laturnus.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Could wear off "very quickly" if the blood is on the bottom of the footwear, says Laturnus.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
What about if assailant got blood on their hands? asks Veniot. If small amount of blood, it would dry "very quickly," says Laturnus. And if they're grasping a weapon, blood may only be on outside of hands, not inside? Possible, but if they change their grip, could get on inside


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
If blood on outside, possible it could run down their arm to inside their sleeve? asks Veniot. If there’s sufficient blood, it certainly could, says Laturnus.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Veniot suggests Laturness is wrong to suggest a significant amount of blood on the assailant based on his opinion on what should be there. Laturness says significant to him means someone would be surprised to see that much blood @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Laturness sticks to his conclusion. He says based on all the evidence in context the assailant would have blood on them @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Court has heard the inside of the cuffs of Oland's brown sports jacket, which was dry cleaned, had "diluted" looking stains that did not test positive for blood, but DNA extracted from those areas matched the victim's profile


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
2 stains from Oland's right cuff had a mixed DNA profile, with major component matching the victim's profile with a certainty of 1 in 180 million. One from left cuff had a mixed DNA profile, with the minor component matching the victim's profile with a probability of 1 in 40.

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Veniot says he thinks he's almost finished questioning Laturnus. Wants to review his notes. Oland retrial is on afternoon break.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 2h2 hours ago
Cross examination continues. Court takes afternoon break. @Global_NB #Oland
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 2h2 hours ago
Gold will then have an opportunity for redirect. Not sure how long that will take. Court normally adjourns around 4:30 p.m. Dennis Oland was expected to testify in his own defence this afternoon. Unclear at this point if that will start today or be postponed until tomorrow.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
Oland retrial is back in session. Crown prosecutor P.J. Veniot continues cross-examination of bloodstain pattern analyst Patrick Laturnus.


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Court resumes. Crown continues cross examination of Patrick Laturness @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Veniot asks Laturness about recent studies regarding blood spatter on assailants with varying results. Laturness concurs @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Veniot references Laturness’s 2015 testimony where he said no analyst could say with certainty the stains on the brown jacket were spatter stains. He confirms he can’t say there is or isn’t @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 1h1 hour ago
At 2015 trial, you testified no expert would be able to say whether the blood found on Oland's brown sports jacket was spatter. Still agree with that? Yes, says Laturnus. Spatter is determined based on shape, size, directionality, but isn't any, he says (because fabric)


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Laturness says the type of weapon determines where the blood spatter goes @Global_NB #Oland
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Cross examination of Laturness ends. Alan Gold now conducting redirect. @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Gold refers to recent studies/experiments on blood spatter on assailants referenced in cross examination. Laturness says the experiments don’t really apply to this case. @Global_NB #Oland

Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 1h1 hour ago
Redirect of Laturness is complete @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 58m58 minutes ago
I've fallen a bit behind in my tweets. Veniot is done and Gold asked a few follow up questions. Judge announces he's been advised there's a problem with the heating system in the courtroom - as demonstrated by all the red faces in the courtroom. Suggests adjourning for the day


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 57m57 minutes ago
Justice Morrison tells the court of a problem causing the temperature to rise in the courtroom. He suggests an adjournment until tomorrow but the defence doesn’t want the next witness’s testimony split over the weekend. A ten minute break is called @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 57m57 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Michael Lacy says defence doesn't want to be in a position where testimony of its next witness is split over the weekend. (Guessing this is Dennis Oland and the concern is that it would give the Crown the weekend to come up with a more thorough cross-examination)


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 56m56 minutes ago
"I can tough it out, it's not a problem for me," says Justice Terrence Morrison. Lacy says the defence is ready to proceed. Judge suggests a short recess first to give folks a chance to get some water.
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 47m47 minutes ago
Trial has resumed. Defence calls the accused Dennis Oland to the stand. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 49m49 minutes ago
Dennis Oland takes the stand in his own defence at his 2nd-degree murder retrial in Saint John.

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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 45m45 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Michael Lacy handling examination. You decided to testify? Yes. Your decision. Yes. Why? "I want to clear my name." says Oland. I think it's important people hear in my own voice I didn’t not kill my father, he says


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 43m43 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Michael Lacy asks Oland why he is testifying. Oland says “I want to clear my name.” “I think it’s important for people to hear from my own voice that I did not kill my father.” @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 43m43 minutes ago
Crown suggests you flew into a rage and brutally bludgeoned your father as we see in those horrific pictures - did you do that? asks Lacy. No, says Olandd


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 41m41 minutes ago
Crown suggests you went there looking for money. Did you? asks Lacy. "I did not, no," says Oland.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 40m40 minutes ago
You knew about your father's affair? I knew about a rumour of it, says Oland. Crown says maybe you raised it with your father that day. Did that happen? "No," says Oland with furrowed brow, shaking his head


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 39m39 minutes ago
Oland denies flying into a bloody rage and killing his father. He says he knew about the affair with Diana Sedlacek by rumour @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 37m37 minutes ago
Court has heard your statement to police when you described your relationship with your father. Was it a perfect relationship? asks Lacy. "No it was not," says Oland. At times there were issues between you and your father? "There definitely was," says Oland.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 37m37 minutes ago
Were you accurately describing your relationship - some of the ups and downs? asks Lacy. "Yes, I was."
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 40m40 minutes ago
Lacy dealing with Oland’s background. Going to RCS, then a Quebec private school before graduating grade 12 from Saint John High. @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 41m41 minutes ago
Oland says his parents allowed him to return home from Quebec for grade 12 and go to the school of his choice. “Except KV”, said Oland referring to Kennebecasis Valley High School @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 38m38 minutes ago
Went to UNB. Struggled first two years and improved the next two. He says his father said he would buy him a car if he got a “B” which he did. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 26m26 minutes ago
Lacy is going over Oland's university years. Says his first two years were pretty bad, next two years were a whole lot better. What changed? "Dad" gave me an incentive, says Oland. If he got a B average for the last two years, he'd buy him a car, he says.


Tamara Steele‏ @tamarasteele1 14m14 minutes ago
He speaks of the first two years of university not being great and the next two years being a lot better.
His father, Richard Oland, said if Dennis maintained a B average he would buy him a car. He bought him a Honda Civic.


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 26m26 minutes ago
How did he know your marks? asks Lacy. "He was engaged," says Oland. How did it work out? I was able to get a car - a Honda Civic


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 37m37 minutes ago
He tells the court his relationship with his father was not perfect. Trial being told of Oland moving to Toronto around 1991 until 1995. @Global_NB #Oland


Brett Ruskin‏Verified account @Brett_CBC 6m6 minutes ago
Testimony right now is dealing with the period 1991-1995, when Oland was living and working in Toronto. Richard Oland (Dennis’ father) would come to visit.


Tamara Steele‏ @tamarasteele1 30m30 minutes ago
Lacy refers to Richard Oland’s wealth and asks if he or his siblings had a trust fund. He says no.
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Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 36m36 minutes ago
Chose to pursue career as an investment advisor in Saint John in 1995. Richard encouraged him to “go for it”, that he would be his first client. @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 19m19 minutes ago
Oland met his future first wife Lesley. They moved to Toronto together in 1991. He worked in the investment industry. Decided he wanted to become an investment adviser, but was only in his 20s, wasn't sure if he was too young


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 35m35 minutes ago
Okand says he was not married when he returned from Toronto, can’t recall when he was married. Lacy says it’s probably good he’s no longer married to Lesley, not being able to remember the year he was married @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 33m33 minutes ago
Lacy continues to take Oland through his background...returning home from Toronto where he and Lesley lived with Richard and Connie Oland to begin with @Global_NB #Oland


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 30m30 minutes ago
Oland says there was no trust fund for him when he was in Toronto @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 19m19 minutes ago
Talked to his father about it. "He encouraged me to go for it. That was his mindset," says Oland. Father offered to be his 1st client. Decided to move back home to build a book of business. He and Lesley lived with his parents for awhile. Later rented a family camp on mom's side


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 29m29 minutes ago
Eventually bought grandparents property at 58 Gondola Point Road....encouraged by his father @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 16m16 minutes ago
They eventually bought his grandparents' home at 58 Gondola Point Rd. in Rothesay. Says his dad really encouraged him to buy it. Helped negotiate a deal with his uncle Derek and aunt Jane Toward, who were the executors


Andrew Cromwell‏ @Andrew_GlobalSJ 18m18 minutes ago
Trial adjourns for the day. Dennis Oland will return to the stand tomorrow morning @Global_NB #Oland


Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon‏ @BJMCBC 15m15 minutes ago
Lacy says this is a good time for the Dennis #Oland retrial to break for the day. Court resumes tomorrow at 9 a.m., a bit earlier than usual.
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