Identified! Canada - Salmon Arm, BC, Remains found on rural property, Oct 2017 - Traci Genereaux

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Missing women's families on edge as police search farm

The discovery of human remains on a farm in B.C.'s Southern Interior has left some families of missing local women bracing for tragic news.

John Simpson, whose daughter Ashley disappeared in the area back in April 2016, said the uncertainty surrounding her disappearance is eating away at him.

"You can't eat, you can't sleep," Simpson told CTV News. "You try to get on with your life, and how can you when you're just waiting for that next phone call?"

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Missing women's families on edge as police search farm

What has caught my attention is the neighbours claiming that they didn't know the suspect existed or lived on the property until a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps he was living somewhere else before, or was he living there and no one noticed him. I'm wondering if it's possible that he recently returned to his parent's property in his late thirties because things fell apart in his life.

Was he living on the other property that is being searched until recently?

 

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What has caught my attention is the neighbours claiming that they didn't know the suspect existed or lived on the property until a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps he was living somewhere else before, or was he living there and no one noticed him. I'm wondering if it's possible that he recently returned to his parent's property in his late thirties because things fell apart in his life.

Was he living on the other property that is being searched until recently?

One of the news reports indicated the suspect had a property in Maple Ridge that went into foreclosure. Also some indicators he drove trucks for long distances in northern BC and AB, so he may not have been around much...

Appreciate all the articles everyone... it's definitely looking like the police have found a predator, and I hope le finds the evidence they need to resolve several cases.

 

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One of the news reports indicated the suspect had a property in Maple Ridge that went into foreclosure. Also some indicators he drove trucks for long distances in northern BC and AB, so he may not have been around much...

Appreciate all the articles everyone... it's definitely looking like the police have found a predator, and I hope le finds the evidence they need to resolve several cases.

I had read that he was a pile driver - which is not a trucker, but a construction worker.

 

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"Sagmoen is known for working at the family farm and also away at various locations. Neighbours say he was working up north, possibly in northern B.C. or Alberta, but he has also been linked to a Lower Mainland community.

According to court documents, a mortgage foreclosure petition was filed by CIBC on a Maple Ridge property Curtis Sagmoen owned in 2013. The property is on Gilker Hill road. Sagmoen’s occupation is listed in the documents as a “pile driver/ bridgeman.”

In addition to the searching the SIlver Creek property at 2290 Salmon River Road, police have been searching an area around Springbend Road and Highway 97B and along the roadsides of Salmon River Road."

https://www.pentictonwesternnews.com/news/few-answers-emerge-as-search-continues/

 

[Dee10]

I can only imagine the behind the scenes work that is being done in various areas to find any other connections to other missing women (if they think he's a suspect) payroll records, financial records like credit card receipts for food, gas, lodging.

Neighbors have said, he lived with his parents on a semi-permanent basis (guessing after Maple Ridge) and worked in Northern Alberta or BC which he would be traveling long distances at least to and from his parents house, I have no doubt other police departments will be very interested.

 

[Dee10]

[FONT=&quot]The majority of charges against Sagmoen, who was born in 1980, stem from an incident in Falkland on Aug. 27.[/FONT]

https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/who-is-curtis-sagmoen/

I thought I had read a neighbor heard the gunshot and assumed they meant at or near Curtis' house. Maybe that is why it took so long, they had to find who did it? He was disguising himself.

 

[Dee10]

Trucks carrying digging machines, portable toilets, dumpsters and cooking equipment arrived Wednesday morning in a sign that investigators searching the site could be there for a lengthy stay.

http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...y-equipment-living-supplies-into-sagmoen-farm

There is also a map at the above link.

 

[Satchie]

"The majority of charges against Sagmoen, who was born in 1980, stem from an incident in Falkland on Aug. 27."
https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/who-is-curtis-sagmoen/

I thought I had read a neighbor heard the gunshot and assumed they meant at or near Curtis' house. Maybe that is why it took so long, they had to find who did it? He was disguising himself.

That's just careless reporting to say Falkland, which is maybe the closest town. The press release specifies the August incident he's been charged with, occurred on Salmon River road, near his residence. http://vernon.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=2130&languageId=1&contentId=52919

Sounds like he arranged to have escorts meet him along the road to go into the woods, he didn't want his parents knowing. This would presumably only be during good weather.

 

[Dee10]

There is a lot more here from the neighbor regarding a car & the foot prints:

"Edes admits he has no idea what police will find on that neighbouring ranch but said the unsettling late August discovery made some sense of earlier events.

He said sex trade workers had been mistakenly visiting his tenant on the end of that same road last summer, rousting him late at night, seeking payment."

http://calgarysun.com/news/national...salmon-arm-property-where-human-remains-found

 

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“We’re aware of the speculation in the community and in the media around the discovery of the human remains, and them potentially being linked to a number of ongoing missing person investigations,” Cpl. Dan Moskaluk said at a press conference today, Oct. 25.

“Until these remains have been positively identified, it’s too early in the investigation to say whether the discovery is linked or not to any missing persons investigations.

”The police search at 2290 Salmon River Road entered its seventh day today. Numerous officers were seen combing over the property in recent days, assisted last week by the canine unit.

The entire property — which is more than 24 acres in size according to police — is encased in yellow police tape.

An area at the rear of the farm where officers are working is blocked off with black screens.Cpl. Moskaluk had little information to share during today’s press conference, except to say that additional resources are being brought in to assist with the search, including members of the forensic evidentiary recovery team.The large rural property at 2290 Salmon River Rd. is wrapped in police tape, Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2017.
(CHARLOTTE HELSTON / iNFOnews.ca)

“Given the seriousness that we found human remains on site... we have to conduct a very thorough and efficient investigation,” Moskaluk said. “Again, there’s no timeline as to how long we’re going to be here.”Moskaluk said police are on site under a warrant that is sealed by the courts.“Therefore, we’re not able to provide specific details about the search or investigation,” he said.

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He said police would not be in a position to comment on whether the human remains belong to one or more people, or who they are, until an autopsy and proper examination is done. He also would not comment on any suspects or what led police to the property in the first place.

http://infotel.ca/newsitem/addition...n-farm-where-human-remains-were-found/it47166

 

[Satchie]

It appears they started the search Wed 18th, were using a backhoe on the spot Thursday morning, and announced they'd found remains Saturday. That seems quick for such a large property. I wonder if they'd got a tip about where to look.

One big difference with this case is the parents lived on the property, and I suppose were not infirm like Garland's parents. The location of the tents is highly visible from the old barn, where the officer spoke this afternoon, but perhaps not from the house, it's at the base of a steep slope below the house and outbuildings, that you can just see thriugh the trees behind the officer's head. Seems a risky place to hide remains, out in the open like that.

 

[otto]

http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...y-equipment-living-supplies-into-sagmoen-farm

There is also a map at the above link.

Thank you - adding the map for reference.

http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...y-equipment-living-supplies-into-sagmoen-farm

 

[LadyL]

omgosh so upsetting

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/neighbour-salmon-arm-search-1.4370416

 

[otto]

omgosh so upsetting

Shades of Robert Pickton. How long has he been doing this, are there victims in Maple Ridge, are their victims where ever he was when he worked in Northern BC or AB?

Did this start after he lost his property four years ago?

Is the drug charge related to cocaine?

 

[dotr]

http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...ats-and-linked-to-salmon-arm-farm-body-search
Last Updated: October 25, 2017 7:52 PM

So, what do we know about the subject of this high-profile RCMP probe?

Sagmoen was employed as a piledriver and bridgeman, work that involves construction or repair of bridges, docks and wharfs, according to the union that represents these workers. The union would not speak to Postmedia for this story.

He has not been working, though, since his arrest last week after an escort was allegedly threatened Aug. 28 with a shotgun near the Sagmoen farm at 2290 Salmon River Rd.

On that morning, neighbours Steve Langenegger and Ted Edes found a grey Mazda with its engine still running crashed on a small bridge near the Sagmoen farm and two pink slippers lying on the road nearby. Bare footprints were in the sandy soil leading away from the car, which seemed hastily abandoned.

“They (the footprints) were far apart so she must have been running for her life,” Langenegger told Postmedia. He phoned the police.

He was also charged with possessing methamphetamine, on Sept. 5.

Some on Facebook posted that they went to school with Sagmoen in Maple Ridge at Harry Hooge elementary and Thomas Haney Secondary. A few said he was a good friend at the time. Others spoke of off-roading with him.

Property records show Sagmoen lived in Maple Ridge in the 10800 block of 248 St. with one of his brothers in 2004. Later, he moved to a townhouse on Gilker Hill Road, where he appeared to live until 2013, when CIBC filed a mortgage foreclosure petition.

In 2013, there were two assaults against women on a trail near this townhouse

On his own Facebook site, Sagmoen has “liked” more than two dozen sites featuring scantily clad women, as well as a few about vehicles. The Facebook groups he follows range from heavy equipment operator jobs to horses for sale to “bikini girls.”

 

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http://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...ats-and-linked-to-salmon-arm-farm-body-search
Last Updated: October 25, 2017 7:52 PM

Thank you - so two possible assaults four years ago, and now murder. Did he start this four years ago and he escalated to murder after he moved to the Salmon Arm, or is there a trail of bodies?

 

[anonymess]

Thank you - so two possible assaults four years ago, and now murder. Did he start this four years ago and he escalated to murder after he moved to the Salmon Arm, or is there a trail of bodies?

Merely in speculation, the current suspect is old enough to have been around for these highway of tears cases:

2002, prince George, Nicole Hoar
2005, Prince Rupert, Tamara Chipman
2006, prince George, Ailah Saric Auger
2011, hogsback lake, Madison Scott

May totally not be related but worth keeping an eye on as we learn more about the suspect's background.