Casey as "co-counsel" ...good strategy or no?

[Macushla]

Here's the video. Its so beyond annoying to watch this woman fuss and fidget with her sweater and sleeves and what not. She's so obsessed with how people will perceive her.


http://www.wftv.com/video/27306366/index.html

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I had not seen this clip before, started watching late that day, and I had an interesting thought while watching it. Most of us agree that KC will never agree to any defense strategy other than she is completely innocent. I wonder if she has decided that she will be found guilty of a lesser charge after listening to her defense attorneys. In true chameleon style, she as morphed into the next phase of her life - 'law school student and/or paralegal assistant for whomever handles her appeal (and she is sure someone will). this is why she can sit there and show no emotion no matter what is being discussed. She doesn't care what anyone is saying, she has already moved on "yeah, ok, I'm guilty, so I don't have to worry about what is being said, I have to make sure I take enough notes so my appeal attorney knows exactly which issues should be appealed. Or I want to show people that I will be an excellent law student once I get settled in at prison. I wonder if I can get a course catalog now?

 

[Turnadot]

It's all over the internet, discussions about KC sorting and organizing her own legal files, looking at the computer screen, "conferring" with all defense attorneys, scribbling away like a rabid stenographer, and in general looking and acting for all the world as if she is employed by the defense.

One InSession pundit (I believe) opined about how this was GOOD, that it makes KC look very engaged and aware. Most forum discussions, however, seem to be negative about her new "position".

What is your opinion? Is it a good idea or a bad idea for KC to literally authentically BE part her defense team?

BBM

I disagree. It makes KC look disengaged and apathetic towards her murdered baby.

But as I posted in another thread here, the defence has no idea how to present KC to a jury, and imo, it's not all their fault. They can only work with what they have.

All my own opinions.

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

i voted: other

i'm conflicted..
one one hand.. it makes her look like she's concerned with her defense and playing an active roll to prove her.. um.. "innocence" (ROTF)

on the other hand.. it makes her look extremely disconnected.
typical casey.. not a care in the world..
not a care in the world as her daughter lie deceased & decomposing in the trunk of her car...
not a care in the world for 31 days after she last saw her daughter alive
not a care in the world while mommy dearest was driving her around, on the phone with 911
not a care in the world, besides talking to her boyfriend dujour, after she's arrested on a f'ing whim and her family is pleading with her to get the baby back.

no matter what they try to do, she looks GUILTY. she REEKS of guilt.. even more so than the trunk of her car.

 

[chefmom]

I actually think she's trying to write a script for GA. Check out the news thread.

Well, I won't be a bit surprised if this is how it goes. The only help I can see KC giving to her own defense is to steer the blame away from herself, and pointing the finger at GA just might be the best chance they have. It might actually be the best "reasonable doubt" shot that they have. It stinks, but it is what it is. I guess we will see soon.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I think having Casey as Co-Counsel is a great idea. Anything Casey touches is doomed.
She played the part in killing her child, now I would like to see her play the part in killing herself.

 

[miss plum]

At every stage of this investigation an A has attempted to step in for the professionals---they have mimicked being police officers, missing children finders, nurses of decomposition, private investigators, media spokespersons, etc etc, so it's not too surprising to now have a bogus A Esq. showing up, ready to work.

 

[Mystic]

I voted its bad. I have alot of thoughts about it.

She doesn't have any mental illness. Bi-polar and OCD is over diagnosed imo I personally think she is adverse to sitting or doing anything she doesn't want to do. Its a subsitute for her cell, CA's laptop, going shopping or a jog or just to her room and shutting the door. I guess that's pretty much what most everyone here is saying as well.

Looking back at what we know.. she moves on from any unpleasant thing, always doing something else.. basically not having 'control' in this scenerio makes her fidget and well... the DT doesn't want her grooming, picking at her nails or making inappropriate facial experssions or a possible outburst. Its like a child who won't sit still and behave at church, restaurant or some other time that its appropriate. So you give them something to entertain themselves... hence I think ICA enjoys her assistant job too much and should be made to sit and listen whether she likes it or not.

The DT is keeping her busy possibly in the hope that the Jury may perceive or form an opinion that ICA has some sort of mental problem (even if they are not using that as a defense). i.e. there's got to be something wrong with her, she's so disassociated etc
I believe I recall that when Lee was on the stand she actually did sit still and pay attention.. until his response was the famous 'maybe'.. at which point she was right back at writing and ignoring him. She's just a control freak who should have her yellow pads and pencil case taken away pronto imo

Sorry about a bit of rant but this really annoys me to no end and I don't want the Jury thinking that she has any issue other then she is a murderer

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Yep.

Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Please don't let my ears look so big.Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop. Make them stop.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::slap::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[zoomama]

I voted other. It's already been said and very well at that but I echo the thoughts that she is still back at Universal pretending to work or do whatever. Her busy work at the defense table escalated with just jotting a few notes to full out flipping pages and not even reading anything. No way is she even close to acting like a "paralegal". She is just busy with her own invention of herself once again. She is acting like a defense atty. No paralegal for her . No siree she went straight to the top of the order. She lives in fantasy and makes herself important. This isn't a good thing at all for her future!

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I voted its bad. I have alot of thoughts about it.

She doesn't have any mental illness. Bi-polar and OCD is over diagnosed imo I personally think she is adverse to sitting or doing anything she doesn't want to do. Its a subsitute for her cell, CA's laptop, going shopping or a jog or just to her room and shutting the door. I guess that's pretty much what most everyone here is saying as well.

Looking back at what we know.. she moves on from any unpleasant thing, always doing something else.. basically not having 'control' in this scenerio makes her fidget and well... the DT doesn't want her grooming, picking at her nails or making inappropriate facial experssions or a possible outburst. Its like a child who won't sit still and behave at church, restaurant or some other time that its appropriate. So you give them something to entertain themselves... hence I think ICA enjoys her assistant job too much and should be made to sit and listen whether she likes it or not.

The DT is keeping her busy possibly in the hope that the Jury may perceive or form an opinion that ICA has some sort of mental problem (even if they are not using that as a defense). i.e. there's got to be something wrong with her, she's so disassociated etc
I believe I recall that when Lee was on the stand she actually did sit still and pay attention.. until his response was the famous 'maybe'.. at which point she was right back at writing and ignoring him. She's just a control freak who should have her yellow pads and pencil case taken away pronto imo

Sorry about a bit of rant but this really annoys me to no end and I don't want the Jury thinking that she has any issue other then she is a murderer

:goodpost:

I also agree with what other's have said that she is probably writing to Cindy, ready letters, taking notes for a future book.
Either way, this is a big "NO" "NO" IMO. A jury will look at her and not think she is crazy, mental, or ugly coping. IMO, they would look at her with disgust. How can she act so cold while they are talking about her dead daughter?

It is OK to help one defend oneself, that is why the DT comes to the jail and goes over your file with you. But Casey is just about Casey and IMO if she were not given her legal pad and pens she would be jumping out of her seat and may even scream out what she did to Caylee if someone gets a few :sick: details wrong.
Again, IMO the only reason they give her pen/paper/files is to keep her busy. Then they also have someone right there to babysit her when they go on break or approach the bench.
I to voted bad idea.

 

[ynotdivein]

Has anyone reading here ever seen the level of "babysitting" that KC gets? An assistant always jumping into the seat next to the defendant whenever the lead attys leave the table? This astounds me.

I mean, a good paralegal would not require such oversight. Ahem.

 

[Psmith]

It's one thing if you can manage to make your client seem interested and engaged in the proceedings. To make it seem like they are taking things seriously and doing everything possible to assist in their own defense.

But that's not what is happening here. There is a subtle line between engaged and what KC is doing when we see her. It is rather clearly a behavior to simply disengage her further from her crimes. It comes across as cold and manipulative. It makes the lay people wonder who is running the show. It will hurt her in the end. (although granted it is still probably better than her simply sitting there and giving the jury her cold sociopath stare.)

Plus, it makes her look afraid since, apparently, she has to have busy work to escape what is going on in front of her--that is, when she is not shooting poisonous glances at any given individual on the wit stand. jmo

 

[LinasK]

I voted other. It's already been said and very well at that but I echo the thoughts that she is still back at Universal pretending to work or do whatever. Her busy work at the defense table escalated with just jotting a few notes to full out flipping pages and not even reading anything. No way is she even close to acting like a "paralegal". She is just busy with her own invention of herself once again. She is acting like a defense atty. No paralegal for her . No siree she went straight to the top of the order. She lives in fantasy and makes herself important. This isn't a good thing at all for her future!

Yes, remember Andrea Lyon is going to get her admitted to her law school when this little matter is over...

 

[Caligram]

JB ~ if you are reading this to get some expert opinions on how to keep ICA quiet during trial ~ could you ask GA if he has any more of that real good-adhering duct tape. You could tape here hands to the table, and if that doesn't work, well, she already demonstrated another option. As it is, if fake filing/shuffling is your strategy, go right ahead. I want to see her face when the verdict is announced.

 

[Peepers McPeep]

Whatever she does, I will find fault.
During trial I expect to see facial tics and kneejerks from everyone present.
I shall await the big moment when there is a dramatic faint by an Anthony.
What a spectacular, Spectacular this is going to be.
I'm sorry this is being done in your name, Little Caylee Marie, my love.

 

[Imbackon]

I suspect by the time trial starts Casey will morph into a different persona. She's been at this one long enough that she is probably already bored with it. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't suddenly turn into grieving mom and loving daughter.

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

I suspect by the time trial starts Casey will morph into a different persona. She's been at this one long enough that she is probably already bored with it. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't suddenly turn into grieving mom and loving daughter.

i don't think she knows how!

 

[ynotdivein]

i don't think she knows how!

BlondGurl, I agree. Had this in an earlier post and deleted it, but IMO you are on target here. KC does not know how to emote in the way a normal human being would.

Which is IMO why the defense preoccupies her with paper and pen.

I don't believe this supports some kind of PTSD defense.

I think it means exactly what it is--a murderess, trying to scam her way out of taking responsibility for her actions. Again.

She is a sociopath. The jury will see this. Beyond the paralegal act--they will be in the same room with her. Our Amil, and Magpie over at HM, both concur that the "vibe" in the courtroom changes depending on who is testifying and what is happening. The jury will be subject to that for what, 6 weeks?

Don't tell me those jurors will go into their deliberations without a fully-formed opinion of KC and her antics at the defense table.

There is NOTHING. the defense team can do to mitigate the real-live-in-the-flesh mess of a client they have. IMO and JMO. And :cow: too.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Given the fact that Jose Baez is totally incompetent and out of his league in a case of this magnitude, Casey's theatrical legal acumen might not be a bad strategy. Maybe a jury will be convinced that KC has incompetent legal representation. jmo

 

[logicalgirl]

I do understand what posters are saying regarding what else is the Defense to do. :banghead:

However, guess what? I don't care what they get her to do at trial. It won't matter because she will look like the stone cold killer she is. I just don't care.

Ask me that question! Do I care if ICA is "comfortable" sitting at the defense table listening to testimony that is going to convict her.

Answer: No