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At the end of NG on friday, they had a clip of Jesse Grund talking about how Casey lies. At first I thought it was Casey. Their voices and word choice is really similar.

"The way I would describe the way Casey lies is diabolical."

I'm assuming this is because they spent alot of time toghether and talked alot.
 
At the end of NG on friday, they had a clip of Jesse Grund talking about how Casey lies. At first I thought it was Casey. Their voices and word choice is really similar.

"The way I would describe the way Casey lies is diabolical."

I'm assuming this is because they spent alot of time toghether and talked alot.

LOL....not only their 'word choices', similar.

Jesse's *views* on KC now, in the media, are very different from his *views* on her in his statements to LE.
 
I was listening to KCs "interview" yesterday at Universal Studio. It was right after she had taken the detectives to "her place of work" and they were in the room together. THey were asking her about Caylees favorite places to go and of course she was talking about Blanchard Park. The one detective (playing good guy) mentions to her hey, you know that is where there was a murder a while ago. KC answers yes, my mom doesn't want me running there, she doesn't even let me run chickasaw either.

It really struck me that she would mention that trail. Isn't that were Caylees remains were found? I think its another one of her codes, talks, whatevers, that hey, if she happens to be found......

What do you think?
 
A Close. Closes. I have never heard of this before. Driftway yes. Could I pry and ask what natinality your Gmom is or if she lived in a location that used this term. I do Genealogy searches and I am not familiar with this.

I'm not sure how to find this out but I could go hunting on some of my history site and see what shakes out.


I'm a genealogist also. A "close" is an old English term for "street" or "road". Google Queen Mary's Close or Royal-Mile Closes.
 
I remember George telling LE during his taped interview that Casey always injects a tiny bit of truth to her lies.

Also, in a media clip from several months ago, George said when asked about some story Casey had told "again, she tells just enough that it could be feasible."

Poor guy.
 
I was listening to KCs "interview" yesterday at Universal Studio. It was right after she had taken the detectives to "her place of work" and they were in the room together. THey were asking her about Caylees favorite places to go and of course she was talking about Blanchard Park. The one detective (playing good guy) mentions to her hey, you know that is where there was a murder a while ago. KC answers yes, my mom doesn't want me running there, she doesn't even let me run chickasaw either.

It really struck me that she would mention that trail. Isn't that were Caylees remains were found? I think its another one of her codes, talks, whatevers, that hey, if she happens to be found......

What do you think?

I forgot about the Chickasaw part actually....good catch.

I'm very curious as to how Blanchard Park plays into this as she wove that into her story on numerous occaisions! Either it was to throw them off or there is something to it!
 
As I stated before I think someone had a listening device either placed in the house or sitting outside the home or even Baez office with a high tech bug.
I think the A's knew someone got this info somehow and that is why they had their house swept and also around the same time declared their computer was hacked.
I think they were trying to figure out how the info get leaked.
Someone may have already brought this up, but wasn't it a couple of nights after they got back from California, LK show, that DC, their PI, was seen outside their house looking for "bugs" ? This was reported in the media, I believe. What's the chances that they had conversations about the area off suburban, DC searched it in mid November, and when they came back from Ca, after the remains were found, they were thinking there might have been a listening device planted prior and someone got the info as to where the body was ? This could have been why DC was searching the home ? The thought of DC searching the outside of the home and the timing, with what we know now about the PI's searches off Suburban... :confused:
 
I was listening to KCs "interview" yesterday at Universal Studio. It was right after she had taken the detectives to "her place of work" and they were in the room together. THey were asking her about Caylees favorite places to go and of course she was talking about Blanchard Park. The one detective (playing good guy) mentions to her hey, you know that is where there was a murder a while ago. KC answers yes, my mom doesn't want me running there, she doesn't even let me run chickasaw either.

It really struck me that she would mention that trail. Isn't that were Caylees remains were found? I think its another one of her codes, talks, whatevers, that hey, if she happens to be found......

What do you think?

OMG I forgot about that. When I went back to listen to the interview, that is exactly what she says, I wonder why? Well we know why now. That was a good catch.
 
Remember the story about the trip from Tampa when Zanny supposedly had the accident and got a concussion and other injuries? Since KC borrows pieces of info from various events when spinning her tales, is it possible that she is revealing some of what actually happened to little Caylee? A blow to the head, perhaps, and she seemed okay but when she went to sleep she didn't wake up? Just thinkin' . . .
 
This just part of that call: I bolded some of the phases.
Are they in fact really speaking about a phone or are they speaking about a person.
The line about not for fun etc. and Lee answers OK I got you. To me that sounds like he knew that Casey did not work for Universal Studios but that Universal was the 'code' word for whatever 'work' she was doing. Could Universal mean stealing, via credit cards, checks, identity and Blackjack is a person and that is what they are called?

A lot of LA and Casey calls once he realized they were recorded seem to be some type of personal code. This whole blackjack v. cell phone thing doesen't sit right with me.



This conversation between Lee and KC almost sounds like Casey was dealing drugs or was her own escort service with all the phones she had!!
 
I'm resorting back to the call that took place between KC and LA on July 26th.. Now that I'm going back and reading this again I have a better understanding with all the recent news dealing with these P.I's possibly ... taking into consideration when MR claims he first called in the tip in August... Shorty after didn't Lee sort of Dissappear? The blue is KC and LA the red are my thoughts.


LEE: Hey Casey are you there

Hey. Yeah I’m here

LEE: Sorry my cell phone reception is terrible

CASEY: It sucks at the house I know


LEE: I still want you to know that you can call me and I’ll try you know get as much out there as I can before anything, what ever dies. I know it s not a good situation , you know what can we do. You know ( What ever dies? Are they refering to Caylee, Maybe KC told LA she knew were Caylee was? )

CASEY: Yeah absolutely

LEE: Um, so do you understand what I was trying to say for that, that you know, you can reach out to them ( Them = P.I's Possible DC & JH?) and they, I know that you said that when we did visitation and I want you to know that you don’t have to necessarily have to put everything through your attorney if you feel like you wanted to speak to them about anything at all, you can still request that he be there, but he doesn’t have to and you don’t have to do that through him

CASEY: Oh I know. But that’s something we had talked about yesterday actually

LEE: Ok good. Do you plan on speaking with any of those guys at all? ( The P.I's?)

CASEY: We’re going to set up a meeting for Monday, Jose was going to think about stuff, how we were going to set things up over the weekend. He was going to be here with me when we bring then in, um, you know and as far as what I answer, how I answer, you know how all that goes down he was going to figure that out this weekend. He was actually going to come up either today or tomorrow and bring a couple of the videos I guess for me to watch from some of the news stuff that’s been going on, I guess some of the talk shows. Just to try to update me on some of the stuff. Plus he wanted me wanted me to get a good laugh. ( Maybe JB was careful as to what KC was allowed to tell the P.I.'s incase they came forward any time in the future?)


LEE: So, is there anything? I know we had spoken before and you understand how all this works, now. but do you have anything that you can, you know, tell me, that would help?
( Is he asking for the location of the body?)


CASEY: There’s nothing I can think of at the moment. I’m actually going to try and get something together, you know today so I can write a couple letters to the family. I’m even going to get with (intelligible) and stuff to see if he does get that directly. But still put out my own specific so if anything happens, if there’s any lapse you still will get what I’m trying to put across too.
( By Lapse does she mean she will fill in the missing info with a 2nd letter sent later?)


LEE: And just remember that if you give it to the attorney…. ( He may not forward the letter if too direct)

CASEY: They can read it and choose whether or not to even fix it which is why I’ll do a secondary letter to make sure it’s direct ]( secondary possibly to LA through mail without Attorney?)
LEE: Perfect I would encourage that 110 percent. So is there anything specifically, I know you’re going to meet with, you know the investigators and everything, you know. Is there anything specifically the details that you want to clarify to me now so that I’m following up on my own leads and my own information, putting the stuff together, you know then I can start working on it now? ]( LA has own leads serperate from everyone else? No kidding huh)

CASEY: Um, at the moment there’s nothing specific or nothing that you know should probably be said here. Um, again I’ll put something together before I see Jose or when I see Jose and you know make sure that I have something also to put out. ( Can’t talk about it now, too risky ) LEE: Right.

CASEY: So that way you can get whatever you like ( Move /take something? )

LEE: Ok. And just so remember when you get to talk to those guys um, you know, you mentioned that you’re going to have your prep and everything with Jose. But remember truth don’t hurt. ( Those guys being the PI’s?)

CASEY: I know but there are some things that I have told them that were misconstrued and not used to their benefit. I gave them the same resources that I gave you and you found out a hundred more things then they did. And they were given the same information. So it’s just about the approach I guess and using the resources to their full extent. Again I’m everybody’s biggest resource; you have said that, Jose has said that, mom and dad have said that.


LEE: Right but at the same time we still we just need to figure out how we can be clear on what ever we’re giving to them, so even if we have to you know speak very direct or we can’t really speak in generalities with them, with anybody is what I’m finding out . Or if we tell them I’m not completely sure on the spelling or I’m not completely sure on this or that. They take everything exactly up front to the ‘T’. Exactly how you provide it. So if it’s off at all they don’t even think to look in any other areas ….( LA explaining that he and KC need to be on the same page as to what she is going to tell them,etc. )

CASEY: That’s why I gave them things multiple times. Each officer I gave the same information at least two or three times, I’ve done the same thing with you, the same thing with mom, the same thing with Jose. Everyone has the same information, same spelling, same names. None of that has altered because that’s it


LEE: What do you think, where do you think. You think Caylee’s ok right now? ( Notice he first ask “what then where do you think.” He realizes he’s about to have his sister answer an incriminating question so he then says is she okay?)

KC: My gut feeling? As mom asked me yesterday and even Jose asked me last night, the psychologist asked me this morning that I got through the court, um in my gut she’s still ok. And it still feels like she’s close to home. ( She follows up with she’s okay - and then gives a LOCATION!)

LEE: Ok ( Now he know’s where to start looking )



The first time I listened to this one of the many things that bugged me was the part where LA is asking if she still feels Caylee is ok, and in her response she lists the people who have asked her this in the last 24 hours. Like she is letting him know that she has told her mother, JB, the court appointed psychologist as well as LA the same answer = "It still feels like she's ok and that she is close to home". Why not just answer, why go through the list of people she has told this too?? It just bugs me. jmo

Oh also I think this is the convo where she actually says "it still feels that she's ok and that she's close to "hoet". Some have theorized that this was code for Hidden Oaks Elementary l = H O ET ?? :cow:
 
The first time I listened to this one of the many things that bugged me was the part where LA is asking if she still feels Caylee is ok, and in her response she lists the people who have asked her this in the last 24 hours. Like she is letting him know that she has told her mother, JB, the court appointed psychologist as well as LA the same answer = "It still feels like she's ok and that she is close to home". Why not just answer, why go through the list of people she has told this too?? It just bugs me. jmo

The first time I heard the conversation between KC and LA, including the Blackjack stuff, I thought she was telling him where to find the body. It was an intuitive thing -- I just felt like that's what it was. I can't back it up with pure facts, but . . . uh oh here it goes . . . I knew in my gut!
 
The first time I listened to this one of the many things that bugged me was the part where LA is asking if she still feels Caylee is ok, and in her response she lists the people who have asked her this in the last 24 hours. Like she is letting him know that she has told her mother, JB, the court appointed psychologist as well as LA the same answer = "It still feels like she's ok and that she is close to home". Why not just answer, why go through the list of people she has told this too?? It just bugs me. jmo

Oh also I think this is the convo where she actually says "it still feels that she's ok and that she's close to "hoet". Some have theorized that this was code for Hidden Oaks Elementary l = H O ET ?? :cow:

OMG! great work Doogie! :clap:
 
The first time I heard the conversation between KC and LA, including the Blackjack stuff, I thought she was telling him where to find the body. It was an intuitive thing -- I just felt like that's what it was. I can't back it up with pure facts, but . . . uh oh here it goes . . . I knew in my gut!

The radio show (also a web site) sacred monkeys suggest that ZG is a lead for location where the body was found.
It seems that the body was found in an area that is between two houses Zeneda and Gonzales.
this was posted ont thier web site on 4/26/9
Can this case have any more twists and turns?
 
The radio show (also a web site) sacred monkeys suggest that ZG is a lead for location where the body was found.
It seems that the body was found in an area that is between two houses Zeneda and Gonzales.
this was posted ont thier web site on 4/26/9
Can this case have any more twists and turns?

Songline, it's getting tiring to repeat over and over that this was discussed HERE in December. SM is not revealing anything that hasn't already been discussed. Do a thread search. I'm sure you'll find it. It was quite illuminating.
 
this isn't gonna be a popular or thanked post, you may want to skip ahead to the next one .... ok but i warned you - i don't think they're talking in code. i think that the weird, vague, convoluted style of speech used by these two makes us think they must be using it to convey hidden messages b/c we can't imagine speaking in this fashion w/o there being something meaningful behind it. i think that if they're speaking any differently from the normal anthony doublebabble they're actually being even broader and more obscure than usual in order to avoid asking or answering anything too directly while still maintaining a comfortable facade of co-operation, helpfulness and openness w/ eachother. there's a whole page of dialogue there but in truth, they managed to say nothing at all.
 

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