Caylee Anthony 2 year old #19 General Discussion

[SuziQ]

I went back to read the affidavit to refresh my memory and clarify the apartments in this case. I appears that Casey was not living across from the apartment ZG looked at.

Casey took the detectives to an apartment building, 301 N. Hillside Dr. and pointed at a second floor window and said ZG lived there early to mid 2006. Detectives later determined this is a senior only living facility. A note was found in Casey's car that had the address of 232 Glenwood. This address is across the street and reported to be where Amy lived.

Casey then took detectives to the apartment that Casey claims she left Caylee at. 2863 S. Conway Road, #210. Casey confirmed that apartment. This apartment had been vacant 142 days. A ZG filled out a guestcard and looked at an apartment in Apr 2008.

Detectives then went to where Casey said ZG's mother owned a condo mid 2006 to early 2007. Detectives knocked on neighbors doors and no one new of a ZG or her mother Gloria.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

 

[curiositycat]

Not if she were an illegal perhaps and staying with other people. She would have no utilities listed, no forwarding address, etc. The phone could be disposable listed in another bogus name.

However, LE would have records of a call or calls just no way to trace them.

You could still trace her. You would have an address where the bill went and you could find out everyone who lived at that address and run them all down. If there were utilities in ANYONE's name you can do it. It happens all the time .

 

[RR0004]

Just thinking out loud here...but, if Casey did talk to the nanny on the phone, could there be a way for LE to trace that number or find which phone company the number belonged to, even if it was disconnected and then get the mailing address and billing name for the bill from that phone company?

Absolutely...that's why I wonder why she didn't march her little butt into the police station and ask for their help. IMO...she's been all about protecting her own *advertiser censored**. She must have been involved in something for her to dread going to the police. I don't believe the whole I watch tv crap.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Hey, honestly...a nanny that maybe stole a kid here is no more farfetched than the woman who cut the baby out of the uterus then duct taped it back the other day. Would we have ever thought that would happen in a million years? No way.

I just want Caylee found. I don't care HOW they do it and if tracking down a fake nanny is an avenue they should be following...they should be doing it to make darn sure.

 

[DianeB]

It is a strong possibility which they have not ruled out, imo.

She may be from Puerto Rico. Other women (young and old) I saw on Facebook listed PR as their home.

I wonder if LE bothered to take the photos off all those Zenaida Facebook sites for her to look at in jail?

Even if there is a real individual Casey calls "Zanny", there is no proof that this person was acting as a nanny for Caylee.

I think the answer lies in what Casey has been doing during the day for the last six months. Her mother testified that she's been working since January (?), and leaving with Caylee every day. We know Casey has not had a job - one that reports income to the gov't, anyway, for at least a year.

Speculation - Casey is a callgirl, and Zanny a worker at the 'agency' that employs her. Zanny looks out for Caylee while mom is out on calls.

Doesn't explain Casey's need to steal money from friends and family, unless in recent weeks she'd lost that job.

Would explain the sudden disappearance of Zanny, if LE in an unrelated case was closing in on the escort agency (after the recent 'limo' prostitute expose, maybe the heat is on).

 

[RR0004]

I went back to read the affidavit to refresh my memory and clarify the apartments in this case. I appears that Casey was not living across from the apartment ZG looked at.

Casey took the detectives to an apartment building, 301 N. Hillside Dr. and pointed at a second floor window and said ZG lived there early to mid 2006. Detectives later determined this is a senior only living facility. A note was found in Casey's car that had the address of 232 Glenwood. This address is across the street and reported to be where Amy lived.

Casey then took detectives to the apartment that Casey claims she left Caylee at. 2863 S. Conway Road, #210. Casey confirmed that apartment. This apartment had been vacant 142 days. A ZG filled out a guestcard and looked at an apartment in Apr 2008.

Detectives then went to where Casey said ZG's mother owned a condo mid 2006 to early 2007. Detectives knocked on neighbors doors and no one new of a ZG or her mother Gloria.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

Oh, thank you so much for that info!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

yes actually, i do know that. i was very careful how i worded it and it is factually correct from what we know so far.

how did you miss the part where she has ADMITTED that she has been lying and that she is doing so because threats have been made?

I didn't miss that part. Everyone knows she has been lying. It doesn't mean there is not some part of the truth in those lies tho.

 

[imnotheonlyone]

Sure would like to know if Casey and Jeff drove to Jacksonville or flew to Jacksonville or if it is true at all?

According to Jeff Hopkins, he's only seen Casey once over the past year....and that was at a bar a month or so ago.

 

[lostnfound85]

Hey, honestly...a nanny that maybe stole a kid here is no more farfetched than the woman who cut the baby out of the uterus then duct taped it back the other day. Would we have ever thought that would happen in a million years? No way.

I just want Caylee found. I don't care HOW they do it and if tracking down a fake nanny is an avenue they should be following...they should be doing it to make darn sure.

The "nanny stealing the kid" theory doesn't fit well with the "cadaver dogs hit on the car and backyard" fact though.

 

[dancingdaisy]

Does anyone know if LE has looked into the phone records at all?

 

[BCingU]

Dear CDF
Perhaps I should have said one can often see blood without a blacklight. When I have bled in the past I can generally see it when it lands on something.

 

[cook78]

I found a place that posts pictures of surrounding night clubs in the area. The pictures are sorted by Club/by date. I was thinking of looking through and seeing if we could spot her at any of the nightclubs during the dates in question. Can anyone remember any of the nightclubs she frequented??

 

[curiositycat]

Absolutely...that's why I wonder why she didn't march her little butt into the police station and ask for their help. IMO...she's been all about protecting her own *advertiser censored**. She must have been involved in something for her to dread going to the police. I don't believe the whole I watch tv crap.

I'm with you on this one. She was buying time and she still is doing that. She did something to Caylee and she is just hoping that no one will ever be able to prove it.
I hope the parent's never bond her out. They need to look out for themselves now. Why let that girl take all the equity in their home?? She's not worth losing what they worked a lifetime for.

 

[Patty G]

Just thinking out loud here...but, if Casey did talk to the nanny on the phone, could there be a way for LE to trace that number or find which phone company the number belonged to, even if it was disconnected and then get the mailing address and billing name for the bill from that phone company?

Some folks have prepaid phone cards ... cash!

If the babysitter has a standard cell phone with monthly billing she could use a post office box number. But I think with regular cell phones you have to give a SS number. LE can trace a SS number for verification of a work history. But then babysitters get paid in cash and people give false SS#'s too!

Once a person does a change of address, fills out a form for a credit card, or fills out to win a car, windows, whatever, this information some how gets sold out to different companies and the address becomes public.

http://www.zabasearch.com

 

[liljim]

i hear ya, sort of.

and its all just speculation until more info comes out.

LE has her cell phone records, they have her credit card receipts etc... they already know if there is any reason to try to put out a sketch of, or look for, this ZFG, and they have chosen not to. i think there is enough evidence available to clearly suggest that they have a damn good reason not to, rather than to speculate that maybe they should have.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Time is part of it, but Florida has 5 requirements before activating an alert:

1 - child under 18
2 - CLEAR indication of abduction
3 - LE's investigation must conclude the child's life is in danger
4 - Detailed descrip of child and/or abductor/vehicle to broadcast
5 - Activation must be recommended by the LE agency of the jurisdiction

2 + 4 are big problems in this case. Delay in notification + casey's demeanor, IMO, make abduction anything but clear, and then you label the abductor a nanny nobody's ever met... who lives in an apartment that's been vacant for 5 months and doesn't exist in databases?

and 3... it seems LE thinks this is well past the 'in danger' point, IMO.

How about it. Never a description or no composite sketch on flyer's for the alleged Nanny, just a name. Cindy calls her Zanny. Good point from Blu, right?, Casey spelled and pronounced her name in full. Even with a friend on the jail call.

 

[Patty G]

According to Jeff Hopkins, he's only seen Casey once over the past year....and that was at a bar a month or so ago.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, so another lie! What a mess!

 

[RR0004]

Has anyone read or heard if Caylee spoke of Zeny to the grandparents or uncle? I know my, just turned 3, grandson tells me all about his daycare providers. Yet I haven't heard the grandparents say that Caylee shared stories of Zeny with them.

Thanks.



Sorry, It takes me a while to read and to post so I see missed the above posts dealing with this question.

Yes, it was discussed...in GM's words IIRC. I just love the fact that GM referred to the nanny as Zanny..."see I'm so familiar with this person I even know her nickname" is what she's implying...pleeeeeez!

 

[ketel0ne]

According to Jeff Hopkins, he's only seen Casey once over the past year....and that was at a bar a month or so ago.

Does he know ZG?

 

[bluedevil21]

Casey then took detectives to the apartment that Casey claims she left Caylee at. 2863 S. Conway Road, #210. Casey confirmed that apartment. This apartment had been vacant 142 days. A ZG filled out a guestcard and looked at an apartment in Apr 2008.

Detectives then went to where Casey said ZG's mother owned a condo mid 2006 to early 2007. Detectives knocked on neighbors doors and no one new of a ZG or her mother Gloria.[/I]

the guest card thing has always bothered me. it was the one thing to give her a little credibility. unless casey filled it out herself. or someone she knew filled it out purposely? for all we know, the card said "date" and whoever filled it out just put april, when it was actually filled out in june or july.

it doesnt say that zanny the nanny looked at that particular apartment, just that she looked at "an" apartment. am i harping on sematics?