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The more outings she has, I agree, the greater chance she'll try to slip away since it'd be almost impossible to do while she's at home. I don't think any of it will lead to finding Caylee though.

NONE of this had anything to do with Caylee. :furious:

Alternate possibility:

Casey gets annoyed with her mother & father keep asking those AB-SOLUTELY annoying questions... Caylee this & Caylee that.... a real WASTE of her time...... she creeps into their bedroom one night when they're asleep & gives them the Zenaida treatment..... then slips out a window? Maybe on Funday Sunday? lol

That's when the story will get interesting.... when we get to see LP practice his trade! lol
 
That's the way I took it.

It was also clear ~ at least to me ~ that this was the norm in terms of the way she talked to her mother, i.e. rude, disrespectful, bossy, demanding. I'll bet there were plenty of nights when she started fights and stormed out of the house.
 
NONE of this had anything to do with Caylee. :furious:

Alternate possibility:

Casey gets annoyed with her mother & father keep asking those AB-SOLUTELY annoying questions... Caylee this & Caylee that.... a real WASTE of her time...... she creeps into their bedroom one night when they're asleep & gives them the Zenaida treatment..... then slips out a window? Maybe on Funday Sunday? lol

That's when the story will get interesting.... when we get to see LP practice his trade! lol


LP can't practice his trade in FL, it's illegal to represnt oneslf as a bounty hunter in FL.
 
It wasn't Tony though who lived across the street from Sawgrass. You bring up an interesting theory as to why she stole so much money from her grandparents, Amy and through her mother's credit cards. I definitely believe Caylee was an obstacle to the life Casey envisioned for herself and she did something to ensure Caylee wouldn't get in her way.

Yes, I was wrong about the across the street thing.
Sorry all.
 
re capping....saying Casey not helping in any way. Jane Velez-Mitchell anchor interviewing various specialists
 
LP can't practice his trade in FL, it's illegal to represnt oneslf as a bounty hunter in FL.

oops. I forgot.

Ok.... he can't hunt her down. He can't ask her any questions.

Thank God he got involved in the case, huh? :rolleyes:
 
I am missing the TV coverage today, as several here have already mentioned. Yes, indeed, this is a truly fascinating case. I don't want to disrupt the thread(s) here, but... (I don't care about church at all, and I think JB is trying to make Casey fall for him in order to manipulate her, just opinion...), anyway, does anyone know what happened to the psychics? Did they go back to Toledo? What happened?

P.S. The family spokesperson is a laugh riot and if I were part of the media covering this case I wouldn't even want to talk with him.

Thanks,
DA
 
Jane V M asking about her past. Is there something from her past that would indicate this kind of narcisscism..Ivan Golde ranting about how bad Casey is, but that she might not be a murderer
 
I'm not so sure of all the locations... but I think Tony lived VERY close to the check cashing place where Casey left her car.
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re capping....saying Casey not helping in any way. Jane Velez-Mitchell anchor interviewing various specialists

Thanks!

By the time I turned on CNN they had moved to the election coverage.

Casey's not helping?!!! I'm shocked! Who'd a thunk it? :crazy:
 
This timeline is a detailed collaboration of several different blogs and sites:

MAY 24, 2008 - Casey FIRST MEETS TONY

MAY 30 - FIRST TIME AT CLUB FUSIAN WITH TONY

JUNE 6, 13 & 20, 2008- CLUB FUSIAN EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT WITH TONY

JUNE 15 - YELLING AND HEATED ARGUMENT AT FAMILY HOME
OVERHEARD BY NEIGHBOR. CASEY SCREAMING AT
PARENTS.
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JUNE 16-

12:50p George sees Casey and Caylee leave,
each wearing backpacks

2:30p George leaves for work

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY
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JUNE 17-

11a Cell call to ???

NO MORE INFO ON THIS DAY, YET

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JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Afternoon:

Seen backing into garage.
Borrows shovel from neighbor
out working in the yard.

JUNE 20- Slutting it up at CLUB FUSIAN in party pics.

JUNE 24 - George finds gas cans in car.

June 27- Casey drops off car at Amscot. Claims it broke down
and ran out of gas. Tony picks her up, Casey and
Tony go to CLUB FUSIAN. Confirmed by friends.

June 24 – Casey's ex-fiancé calls her in the afternoon to tell her he has resigned from the Orlando Police Department. He later tells deputies that he heard Casey reprimand Caylee for climbing on a table. He also claims he heard the young girl's voice in the background. (Later states that may not be true...Lie)

George Anthony calls the Orange County Sheriff's Office and reports that someone broke into his storage shed and stole 2 gas cans with about $50.00 worth of gas in them.Later in the day sees Casey who doesn’t want him in the trunk and he finds the cans and calls police to say a neighbor took them..(LIE)

Read the Burglary Report

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/george_anthony_burglary.pdf

June? – Casey reportedly gets a tattoo in honor of Caylee that reads "Bella Vida." The English translation of the Italian phrase means "Beautiful Life."

June 30 – The car Casey has been driving, a 1998 white Pontiac with Florida tag G63XV, is towed from an Amscot Financial store at Colonial Drive and Goldenrod Road.Car dumped when amscot was closed

July 3, 2008 – Casey's mother, Cindy Anthony, allegedly posts the following message* to her MySpace blog:

Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught

"She came into my life unexpectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankful for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant; the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies and more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?" [sic throughout].

*The message has been deleted.

July 4 – Casey allegedly spends the day partying and hanging out with friends. Cooks Dinner for Tony and DJ.


July 4 Weekend – A new concrete slab is allegedly poured in the backyard at Casey's parents’ house. (Rumor never confirmed by LE who only stated they were aware of all the dig project the Anthony’s did)

July 7 – Casey allegedly posts a message* on her MySpace blog. The message, titled "Diary of Days," read:

"On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself.
With great power, comes great consequence.
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies."

*The message has been deleted.

July 15 – Amy Huizenga tells Cindy Anthony where her daughter is staying. Amy later accuses Casey of stealing checks and $700. (Amy filed police report that same day and closed bank account then posted to her facebook about Caylee being missing)

Cindy picks up Casey and places three calls to 911, telling authorities that she wants her daughter arrested for stealing money and a car. Casey had allegedly stolen her mother's credit card when she moved out and, using the card, had run up thousands of dollars in bills. Cindy also tells the dispatcher that her granddaughter is missing.

Listen to the first 911 call

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/caylee911orlando.mp3

Listen to the second 911 call

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/audio/01CayleeAnthony911.mp3

Listen to the third 911 call

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/audio/02CayleeAnthony911.mp3

During the third 911 call, Cindy tells the dispatcher: "There is something wrong. I found my daughter's car today [and] it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car." (Later recants and says it was from left over pizza...George says from left over pizza and detergent LIE)

July 16 – Investigators discover Casey has been lying about her place of employment and other details regarding her daughter's disappearance. As a result, Casey is arrested and charged with child neglect, making false official statements, and obstructing an investigation.

"Based on the repetitive lies that the defendant has told, we do not know with who the child is or even if the child is alive," Corporal Yuri Melich wrote in the arrest affidavit. He added, "It should be noted that at no time during any of the above interviews did the defendant show any obvious emotion as to the loss of her child."

Read The Arrest Affidavit

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/files/caseyanthony02.pdf

The car Casey had been driving is picked up from the wrecker company, and police question a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez, who claims she does not know Casey Anthony.

While behind bars, Casey calls her family and talks with her mother, Cindy, brother, Lee Anthony, and a friend, identified only as "Kristina." Casey uses profanity during the 13-minute conversation and appears to be angry about comments her mother had made to the media regarding Casey's involvement in the case.

Listen to Casey Anthony's jailhouse phone call

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/files/caseyanthonyjailcall.mp3

July 17 – Casey appears in court, during which time the judge denies bond, saying she showed a “woeful disregard for the welfare of her child.”

The Sheriff’s Office searches the car Casey had been driving and bagged several items as evidence, including dirt, samples of hair deemed to be the same color and length as Caylee’s, and a carpet sample that investigators have called "questionable."

July 21 – Casey's attorney sends a letter to the Orange County Sheriff's Office, which states that they are willing to "cooperate fully" with law enforcement.

Read the Letter

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_attorney_letter_to_sheriff.pdf

The Never Lose Hope Foundation donates office space for volunteers to coordinate search efforts. In addition, a local business owner offers a combined reward of $125,000 for information that leads to finding Caylee. The offer is set to expire in 90 days. View Printable Flyer

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/files/CayleeFlyer.pdf

July 22 – Casey appears at her bond hearing before Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland. During the court proceeding, Corporal Melich testifies about the search of Casey's vehicle.

"There was a very bad smell in the car," Melich stated. "Briefly, just before I came into the Child Abuse Division, I was a homicide detective for two years with the Orange County Sheriff's Office, and in my experience, the smell that I smelled in that car was the smell of decomposition."

Cindy Anthony also testifies that Fernandez-Gonzalez had been babysitting Caylee for more than a year. However, she admits that she has never actually spoken to or met with Fernandez-Gonzalez.

Following testimony by other family members, Judge Strickland chastises Casey for her behavior and sets her bail at $500,000.

Read The Bond Order

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/files/caseyanthony01.pdf

"Not a bit of useful information has been provided by Ms. Anthony as to the whereabouts of her daughter," Strickland said. "And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers."

After the hearing, Cindy Anthony tells the media that Caylee was allegedly spotted at a Tampa airport on July 2; however, an unnamed source later tells WESH.com that the sheriff's office is not optimistic about the tip.

July 23 – A recording made by Caylee's grandfather, George Anthony, and The Never Lose Hope Foundation is broadcast across Florida phone lines to thousands of area residents.

Listen to George Anthony's recorded message

http://blogs.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/files/george_anthony_message.mp3

July 24 – Cindy Anthony tells the media that Caylee has been sighted in Georgia with someone who is heading to Charlotte, North Carolina. Police investigate the tip but find no evidence to substantiate the claim. First claim Caylee has been sited will be followed by more in Aug and also a claim Caylee will be home by her birthday and they’ll throw a block party later says they never said they throw a party-LIE.

Casey's lawyer, Jose Baez, files a writ of habeas corpus, asking that Casey be released from jail so that she can aid in the search for her daughter.

Casey Anthony received a surprise visit from Patrick Bourgeois, a man who claimed to attend high school with her. Casey had trouble remembering who he was and had little to say during their conversation, which lasted less than 2-minutes...

Listen to Casey's Jailhouse Conversation

http://blogs.discovery.com/blogs/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_jail_conversation.mp3

July 25 – Casey's family visits her in prison.

July 26 – Casey phones her brother from jail. During the conversation she states that she believes Caylee is still OK.

"That's still my best feeling at the moment," she said. "If that changes, then obviously I'm going to reach out and say something immediately, but I know mom will understand this more than anyone that there's that bond type of bond that you have with your kid and it's unexplainable."

Listen to the Conversation

http://blogs.discovery.com/blogs/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_jail_call_two.mp3

July 27 – Casey offers to work with the FBI to make a composite sketch of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Note composite was made and released as a limited release.

"She's [Casey] been wanting to cooperate with authorities; she just doesn't trust the local authorities. She would be willing to speak with the FBI," Cindy Anthony tells WESH.com.Note Casey decided not to cooperate with them other then the composite sketch.

Nearly 200 people attend a vigil at the Anthony family home to honor Caylee.

July 28 – Casey Anthony's brother, Lee Anthony, visits her in jail.

View Casey's Jail Visitation Log

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_visitation_log.pdf

Casey's attorney files a motion for a protective order to prevent authorities from releasing any further audio or video recordings of conversations Casey has with her family while she is locked up in the county jail.

Read the Motion for Protective Order
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/motion_for_protective_order.pdf

July 29 – Judge Stan Strickland, citing the First Amendment, denies the protective order motion.

A former inmate who was housed at the county jail with Casey comes forward with information about the case. Inmate Travis Nichols, 20, tells investigators that Casey told him Caylee is with one of her ex-boyfriends. The sheriff's office investigates the claim, but discount it because they are unable to verify details of the alleged conversation, denied by family of course

July 30 – Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum issues a written response to the appeal request that Baez filed on July 24. Within it, McCollum concludes that Baez, "failed to show that such action by the trial court was arbitrary, fanciful, or unreasonable."

Read the Attorney General's Response
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_bond_response.pdf

The Fifth District Court of Appeals agrees with the Attorney General's response and denies Baez's request without comment.

Reports surface that the FBI is going to take over the case.

Meanwhile, Casey calls her brother and says that nothing has changed.

Listen to the Conversation
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_calls_brother_again.mp3

"Um. I guess understandably just being out of contact. But um. I mean as far as I'm concerned nothing's really changed."

The call comes to an abrupt end moments later when the connection is lost.

July 31 – In an effort to better understand the psyche of Casey Anthony, Investigation Discovery enrolls the help of Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, a renowned criminal profiler who has over 20 years experience in profiling everything from serial murders to aberrant sex crimes.

Read Dr. Schurman-Kauflin's Profile of Casey Anthony
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/id-exclusive-cr.html

Casey calls her brother and they briefly discuss a mysterious letter she is supposedly writing. Unfortunately, they are unable to go into much detail, as the connection lost again. Later we find out she isn’t allowed a pen and paper...another LIE.

Listen to the Conversation
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_calls_brother_3.mp3

Meanwhile, Casey requests that only her immediate family be allowed to visit her at the jail.

August 1, 2008– Investigators pay a visit to Casey Anthony's parents' home. Roughly five minutes after they arrive, they are seen leaving with two large paper bags.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, tells Local6.com that he is angry with the Orange County Sheriff's Office, specifically Deputy Carlos Padilla, who reportedly told Nancy Grace that Baez had asked for immunity for Anthony.
"The police have just leaked one thing after another," Baez said. "I don't know. Carlos Padilla wasn't there."

August 2 – Shawn Wasson, host of "The News Junkie" on 1290 WJNO, interviews David Lohr about the case.

August 3 – Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, President of the Violent Crimes Inst. revisits the case and gives her professional opinion on why women murder their children.

Criminal Profiler Shares More Thoughts on Caylee Anthony Case
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/criminal-profil.html

August 4 – WFTV.com reports that prosecutors have offered Casey Anthony immunity, in exchange for information about her daughter; however State Attorney's Office spokesman Randy Means tells WESH.com that no such deal is in the works.

See Report
http://www.wftv.com/news/17090663/detail.html

A spokesperson from the Orange County Sheriff's Office says investigators have found Caylee Anthony's DNA; however they refuse to confirm if it was discovered in the trunk of the car.

"When it is appropriate, we will do what is necessary to further this case. We will not discuss results individually regarding any item that is returned to us," Orange County Sheriff's Office Capt. Angelo Nieves tells reporters.

Investigators Find Caylee Anthony's DNA
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/investigators-h.html

August 5 – Casey is formally charged with a felony count of child neglect and another misdemeanor offense.

Read the court documents
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_charges.pdf

August 6 – Armed with a search warrant, a team of forensic investigators show up at the Anthony family home and remove several articles of clothing from Casey's closet. According to the search warrant, Casey's mother, Cindy Anthony, recently told investigators that she had found clothing inside the vehicle Casey had been driving before she made her first 911 call. Cindy "removed the pants and washed them due to the fact that they smelled like the car," the report said.

Read the search warrant
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_search_warrant.pdf

Bryan Crews, the attorney for the parents of Jesus Ortiz, a young man who some armchair detectives suspect is Caylee's father, holds a news conference and announces that the Ortiz family has never heard of Casey Anthony.
 
dogs, shovel, backyard, 911 calls, arguing.....same ol', same ol'
 
SECOND PART TIMELINE......

"This is the first they were ever told that Caylee might be a grandchild of theirs," Crews said. "They became interested in that, because that's all they would have left of their son, who died at age 20. This is a real surprise to them. I think another news station broke the story to them as a 'hello, big surprise' at their front door, and that was a very shocking event for them. Since that time, they've gotten unwanted media attention."

During an interview on Fox News, Casey's father, George Anthony, admits, despite previous denials, that his daughter had in fact stolen the gas cans from his shed. George said he found the cans in the trunk of the car Casey was driving when he went looking for a tire tool.

In addition to the gas can revelation, Cindy Anthony comes forward and tells investigators that she has been receiving death threats via phone calls, e-mails and letters. Investigators are currently looking into the incidents.

Meanwhile, an Orange County Sheriff's office dive team begins making plans to search lakes near Casey Anthony's home.

August 7 – Contrary to reports by the media, investigators say that the planned dive is unrelated to the Anthony case.

"Nothing has led us to believe [Caylee] would be in the water," Deputy Carlos Padilla said in an interview with the Orlandosentinel.com.

Mark Fuhrman speaks with Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren and tells her that he met with investigators from the Orange County Sheriff's Office and was told about a "flurry" of calls Casey had allegedly placed to her parents on June 16. However, when questioned about Fuhrman's claim, Capt. Angelo Nieves has no comment.

"We didn't discuss anything official with him," Nieves told Orlandosentinel.com.

While Nieves had little to say about the calls, sources close to the investigation have reveal that investigators have gone over every page of Casey's cell phone records and have not found a single call or text message to or from anyone named Zenaida Gonzalez, the woman Casey claimed was Caylee's babysitter.

August 8 – Casey refuses to see her brother when he arrives for a previously scheduled jail visit.

"I've just been informed by the visitation supervisor that when the visitation session started, Casey Anthony was not at the visitation unit over in her housing area. A correctional officer came on over the screen and told Mr. Anthony that Casey did not wish to have the visit occur, and then he left," Allen Moore, public information officer for the Orange County Corrections Department, told WFTV.com, adding, "She did not wish to have the visit. No reason was given for this. It's the inmate's right not to conduct a visitation if they choose to."

WFTV.com reports that investigators suspect Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool on June 16, the day Fuhrman said Casey had made a "flurry" of phone calls to her parents.

"A possibility being considered is Caylee could've gotten into the backyard pool on her own and was discovered too late," reads the article at WFTV.com.

The article also reveals that investigators are conducting further tests on Casey's car to determine whether there is evidence of decomposition.

Meanwhile, supporters and members of the community attend a vigil for Caylee Anthony.

"Your prayers and support means more than you can even imagine," George said, addressing the small crowd. "Thank you for giving me some strength."

August 9 – Caylee Anthony's third birthday.

August 10 – Casey declines a scheduled visitation with her parents.

"Orange County Corrections does not inquire as to why an inmate decides to decline a visitation," Moore told Myfoxorlando.com, adding, "Cynthia and George Anthony were notified by phone that their daughter had declined today's scheduled visit."

Aug 11 - Casey denies visit with parents http://www.wesh.com/news/17154903/detail.html

Aug 12 - George Anthony claims he is being watched, although less than a week previously he claimed he had people watching someone’s home bc he believe Caylee was there. He changed his story to say he only said that bc he is the one being watched. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQlX8_TSIk

August 12- Rumor of more charges being added against Casey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DCsh0bq_Y

Aug 12 - Psychic Detective Gail St. John and her team, “The Body Hunters” join search for Caylee http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/08/12/ng.psychic.search.cnn

Aug 13 - Greta interviews Clint the DJ who was roommate of Tony and Casey during time little girl was missing.

Pictures of Caylee supposedly emerge (wasn’t here though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAVkg_ArJVI
 
Inconsistencies in "this Casey girl's" stories . . . Zenaida . . . accident in pool . . . fresh slab of concrete . . . cadaver dogs. many theories but little evidence.
 
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