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Sorry, I don't twitter, don't even know how, so I can't help find it. It's no big deal, don't spend your time searching on my account. :tyou:
Here's what I think might have happened (it doesn't match either story.) it's just how I imagine it may have gone down.
Marti and Ana spotted Amanda waving and screaming and went across the road.
Amanda tells then she is Amanda Berry and has been kidnapped and needs to get out.
They can't open the door so Marti called Ramsey and Cordero.
Cordero arrived first and was trying to pull the door open.
Ramsey arrives and they can't get the door open
Someone decides to kick the door. Who ??.
Amanda come out.
They need to ring the police.
Noone has a phone.
Ramsey goes to his house to get his, and Amanda goes with Marti to get hers.
Ana's phone was on the balcony so fast to get to.
Ramsey's was inside somewhere and he had to find it.
Ramsey then joined the other across the street to wait for the police.
Amanda spoke to Ramsey and stuck with him as he could understand English.
Ramsey's interview was elaborate and entertaining.
Cordero and Marti are feeling put out.
They make up a story that belittles Ramsey's.
Ramsey is annoyed so try's to make them look like they did less..
They then claim he didn't even eat McDonalds that day.
Reporters keep asking them all questions and their accounts are polluted by after the fact information. And they may have felt pushed to say a certain thing
It descends into a cat fight.
Is the reward money on their minds? They could all obviously do with it.
On Piers show he says that she told him that she had been kidnapped for 10 years and trapped in the house, and that there were other girls there. He says he told her to run with him across the street incase Ariel came back as he would kill them both. Lots of communication in English.
At what point is Ramsey in this story? Angel Cordero says that when Berry explained that there were two other girls locked in the house, Mrs. Marti called Ramsey to ask for help. "He considered going in, but then he repented," indicates Cordero. "And Yes, Ramsey called 911, but much after Berry did." Another neighbor, Altagracia Martí, provided the phone to Amanda
So perhaps she called Angel over and then went home? That's pretty casual considering she realized this was a girl who had been missing for 10 years, you'd think if she did go home she would have at least called the police.
Sorry, I don't twitter, don't even know how, so I can't help find it. It's no big deal, don't spend your time searching on my account. :tyou:
Thanks SophieRose. To me this is the Angel camp playing tit for tat. Ramsey said he ran away like a sissy and now they are suggesting Ramsey wouldn't go in to get the other girls.
This information makes me wonder why Ramsey didn't mention the other girls on 911, Amanda didn't either. The police rang to check it wasnt a prank call and still no-one mentioned the other girls.
Given the girls weren't locked up, (the police said they came out of their rooms.) a 1400 sft is a small house and they could have called out to the other girls. Did the other girls not trust Amanda? why didn't they all call out to them?
Thats pretty much my impression of how it went down. The two women across the street heard Amanda Berry screaming for help and waving her hand out of the door. They started across the street, but they are old ladies and neither of them was in any physical condition to help. So they called Angel Cordero to come and help her. Then the women retreated back across the street. None of them speak English, so they would have had no idea who she was. All any of them knew was, that there was a woman trapped inside the house screaming for help.
At that point Charles Ramsey heard the commotion and came running out of his house, to see what was going on. He joined Cordero at the house's front door at some point during the rescue. A hole was kicked through the bottom of the storm door, and Amanda Berry crawled through, carrying her daughter. Cordero claimed to have kicked in the door alone, while Ramsey claimed it was a joint effort. Amanda Berry and her child climbed out.
Amanda then asked Ramsey to call 911. He gave her his phone. She didn't know how to uses his smart phone. So he took the phone back, and told her to go across the street and use the woman's phone to call, and he would call on his at the same time. After the calls were finished Amanda Berry and Charles Ramsey waited on the street for the police to arrive. The others went back to their houses.
It's not surprising that there are conflicts in the different stories. Witnesses always tell different versions of the same event. Lots of things happen in a few seconds, and each witness describes the event as they perceived it to have happened. Thats a fact, and the way it always is.
Trying to understand, are you saying you believe that Charles misled the public when he made himself out to be the sole rescuer right from the start? I was totally behind Charles at first, now I cringe everytime I hear his voice because his stories and demeaner sound so false and self-serving to me.
I believe what he said in this interview was the truth. He clearly says "we". "We" does not equal sole rescuer. So your statement is a misrepresentation of what he said, right from the start.
Charles Ramsey Interview, Cleveland Man That Found Amanda Berry - YouTube
Yes, he said we, and later said A. Kind of froze for a second. Amanda should be able to tell what happened. They all rescued her, imo. Angel wouldn't have just left her and the elderly women would have done something more if necessary, and Charles did too. I'm not too sure what would have happened if the criminal showed up and gave some of them a line of BS though. They might have believed him and gone back to their business. Especially the ones who couldn't understand what Amanda was communicating.
I believe what he said in this interview was the truth. He clearly says "we". "We" does not equal sole rescuer. So your statement is a misrepresentation of what he said, right from the start.
Charles Ramsey Interview, Cleveland Man That Found Amanda Berry - YouTube
I don't believe it is a misrepresentation. If Cordero was there first, which seems at this point to be the most believable scenerio and is what you stated above, an accurate and true statement from Ramsey right from the start would have gone more like this:
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