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I've just finished reading over the posts from about the 4/20th to today and see the most frequently asked question was why didn't she do this 3 years ago.
When you watched Cindy just begin to describe the web of deceit, manipulation and lies from ICA leading up to and after ICA killed Caylee, did you not even get an inkling of why she didn't "muster up the will 3 years ago"? Seriously?
Something occurred to me as I woke up this morning. Does that ever happen to you? The instant you are awake you have an answer to a question you didn't realize you were asking?
So - fellow posters - puzzle me this! :waitasec:
Cindy has had a belief about what happened to Caylee, and who is responsible for her death. Cindy has done many many irrational and hurtful things because she believed her daughter was innocent. She said ugly accusations about people because people have said ugly accusations about ICA. Cindy has no basis for her beliefs except her experience and observations, but still this is the foundation of her belief system.
Now, after talking to their lawyer and the SA, Cindy has more facts, more information and no longer believes her daughter is innocent.
At this forum, we've discussed many things we have heard or read about Cindy. We have made many accusations about her - many of the ugly, and made suppositions based on our belief system about her. Much of what we believe hasn't been based on fact, but our own experiences in life, but has allowed us to spend three years discussing the family dynamics, our belief that Cindy has not grieved for Caylee, that Cindy chose ICA "over" Caylee. Again, this is what we assumed, and is not based on fact. That is the foundation of our belief system.
Now watching Cindy testify in court on Saturday, we have seen with our own eyes, and heard Cindy describe her love for Caylee. We saw Cindy shun ICA. We know that Cindy and George have new information regarding the defense tactics and now we also have that information. And many of us have changed our minds about Cindy.
Am I the only one here who sees some behavioral patterns that are very alike? In some ways have we not been behaving like Cindy?
Well, the above should get me run off the board if nothing else does. :truce:
Just food for thought folks....
Great post LG
I am on the :fence: in regards to Cindy...
I am digesting the testimony...but I think I will wait patiently to hear all her testimony...
She is not done this round and then down the road she testifies as a DT witness.
This is not directed to you specifically LG...
I just read BJB post on the Fight thread, some of the things Cindy testified to about the evening of June15th just doesn't totally jive with me IMO..
Looking at BJB's post below I don't see a break in ICA's phone use until 9:26..I don't see where she had the time to take Caylee, give her a bath, get her ready for bed, download the pictures and videos and watch it with Cindy and Caylee unless it all happened between 9:26 and 10:06PM:waitasec:
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83435"]Details Emerge: Casey/Cindy Fight - Part 2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
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BondJamesBond
Sunday, 6/15/08
@ ~9:12AM Cindy and Caylee left for Mt. Dora (see Conway toll 9:27AM - 15 mins to toll from G&C's per Google Maps)
Per E-Pass records here
@ ~9AM Casey left G&C's and arrived @ Tony's ~9:15AM.
@ ~2:48PM Cindy & Caylee returned home to Hopespring. Per E-Pass records (and consistent w/ statements) (see matching Conway toll @ 2:33PM + 15 mins to toll from G&C's per Google Maps).
@ 3:35PM Cindy called Casey's cell from the Hopespring home phone. Casey let this call roll to vmail, and Cindy left a 36 second vmail.
@ 3:45PM Kyle called Casey's cell phone and Casey let this one roll to vmail also. At no time during this period did Casey interact w/ her phone.
@ 5:06PM, w/o checking vmail, Casey called G&C's Hopespring home phone from her cell phone @ Tony's apt. for a 3 minute conversation, or left a 3minute answering machine message.
...2 hours passed, w/ no activity on Casey's cell...
@ 7:06PM Casey began a text dialogue w/ Tony while she was still near his apartment. The pings from this conversation indicate Casey left Tony's ~7:06PM.
@ 7:10PM Casey already enroute & unprompted, called G&C's Hopespring home phone for a 1 minute conversation or answering machine message.
@ 7:36PM Casey arrived @ G&C's Hopespring home.
...between 7:06PM and 9:26PM Casey was engaged in a continuous texting conversation w/ Tony (and a little w/ Amy). The single greatest lapse between their texts was 11minutes @ 8:56 w/ most of them in the 2 minute range.
@ 9:26PM a period of cell inactivity lasting 39 minutes began (Inactivity Period I) . (IMHO, this seems to be a good candidate for "the fight")
@ 10:06PM Casey ended the cell inactivity when she received a text from Tony by placing a call to Tony and talking w/ him for 10minutes (IMHO, this also would seem to be indicative of the fight having just taken place)
@ 10:25PM the heavy texting between Casey and Tony resumed for the balance of the night...with a 40minute break @ 11PM. "(Inactivity Period II)
Note: WhyamIsoInterested observed this second period of inactivity would've encompassed the time George likely returned home and perhaps Casey spent a few minutes w/ him...being Father's Day... and apparently having not spent much time w/ him that day.
@ 11:44PM Casey called Tony for an 80-minute marathon phone call.
Some other things to consider...