Thanks to all of the insightful posts that everyone has added to this thread. I've been trying to just read this thread topic over the last week, and, finished it this afternoon.
My head is literally bouncing and spinning from all of this. {I've not had time to even delve into the latest document dump}
So ~ Trying to remember things that people have posted, I'll just throw out some random thoughts.
In the first few pages, someone posted that Shirley P had a savings account of $14,000 which coincides with the same amount that we have speculated that Casey claimed to also have.
I wonder if she was getting ready to clean that account out and make her great escape if push would have come to shove? Great observation!For her to know the balance, she, had to have had access of that personal info as well.
Was that money in Shirley's account that Casey lifted the routing number from, or, a differant one? There was an account for Alex at the nursing home, and there had to have been a personal account from which the $50 birthday check came, because I believe the nursing home account was monitored by the facility to make sure expenditures were for AlexP's healthcare.
I also, like many of you, have taken a certain degree of liking to Shirley; however, at the same time, I also tend to want to keep my distance from her as well.
While it is true, that Shirley "seemed to speak freely to LE", we don't really know what true degree that conversation really was.
She did tell LE that Cindy had been to see her, and that she hoped that she didn't say anything that would upset Cindy. {not sure of the exact quote, but, in that vein, if I remember correctly}
Yes, she was upset and PO'd at Casey, but, Cindy is her daughter, and, I can see her protecting her just the same that we have seen Cindy lie and protect Casey.
In Diane Fanning's book, she claims that Cindy was the Princess in that family ~ Much again like we have seen Casey treated.
Cindy's brother's had to pay for their vehicles and education, while she did not.
Dito to Casey in comparission to brother Lee ~ IIRC, LA was given the Pontiac, prolly because he had work ethic (maybe he had to pay CA/GA for it)...KC had to pay LA for the Pontiac even though it was in CA/GA's name.Perhaps this is why the request was made for the latest Ohio trip, maybe not so much to investigate Casey, as it is to look into Cindy's childhood to use as a hook for Casey in the end? There is nothing in Ohio that could have anything to do with Casey really, having had moved from there when she was 3yrs old. They are wanting to investigate the elder Anthony and Plesea traits, IMO. {Cindy and George and their parents - the grandparents were also from Ohio} I think the important matters are not so much from CA's side, as I think CA was probably a good child and she went to nursing school, had her act together way moreso than KC. I think GA is the key, KC seems to share the physical, emotional and temper traits that GA has. She may have gotten her smarts from CA (as dopey as CA can be, she is a nursing school grad, not for complete dummies).
I'm not suggesting that Cindy stole from her parents, but, again, we have seen so many traits of Casey's that mimic that her mother in regards to lies, mis-trueths, etc.
Perhaps this is one reason that Cindy seemed to disregard and cover these bank transactions that Casey did. I believe CA enjoys being a martyr, it is a way for her to continue, as an adult, to get the same sttention her parents gave her.
Didn't George at one time in one of his interviews say that they had to take a small loan out to cover the house payment because of Casey dipping into Cindy's account, and the house payment bounced?
IMO, yes, Cindy certainly knew what was taking place right under her nose.
But, it also smacks to me that Casey must have had something that she was holding over Cindy's head, and had her backed into a corner over something or another. CA confided a whole lotta personal stuff in her kids-Things about her marriage, for instance, that should maybe not have been relayed to KC and LA in the detail that they were. In sharing that info with KC, CA made herself look vulnerable as a person, and KC was quick to take advantage of the fact that her mother was not as in-control as KC thought while growing up-We all come to that realization about our parents as we grow into adults, that they have issues, too-KC took this to mean that everything that CA ever taught her was garbage-Remember what RG said about how KC spoke of CA during the time of CA's seperation....like CA was a complete loser and horrible role model.
She HAD to have known about these transactions. Our bank has called us on the few occasions that we have had checks overlap when we've been promised payments from accounts/clients. Surely the bank had her cell phone number and knew where she worked, that they could have called to have alerted her to those large withdrawalls, esp the ones that took place on the same day??
{So many things to touch on - trying to remember everything}
George, and, his lack of an active bank account.
I seem to remember him telling LE that the money he had been setting aside for Caylee was by direct deposit, right?? Anyone remember that? Yes, true, he told the FBI this.
So, he has that, but, no checking account in his name. As brought up earlier by other's, I would guess that since he was not ever to "up and at em" in the job market", that eventually, any account that he may have had closed. Either for lack of a job, or, overdrafts. Once you show a habit of being a habitual offender of writing bad checks, they cut you off, and, it is near impossible to open a new one. Same for Casey I would guess; hence the first name basis with AMSCOTT for the both of them.
But, any way you slice this pie, the amount of money that Casey was taking is no small chump change, IMO.
They had to have known ~ And, I can't imagine that Cindy kept it between herself and Casey the way that we have seen her blow.
Last question or remark for now.
On those withdrawalls, is there a time stamp on them??
The reason that I ask, is because years ago, I worked in a Domestic Abuse and Violence Crisis Center.
We had a woman come in one time, and, after a few days of her being there, she was freaking out and crying that the bank had made a "mistake" and that they were claiming that she was overdrawn on her SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
I asked her HOW in the world can you be overdrawn on a savings account?
Well, when the cops came calling for her, she admitted to me that she had scammed the bank.
She made a large deposit at around noon at the main bank, then went back to the main bank to withdraw minutes after the 3PM cut off period of the day.
She then proceeded to go across town to the drive through bank, showed them the deposit slip from earlier in the day, and, she cleaned it out, thereby overdrawing it.
Course, she didn't get away with it, but, she told me that she had pulled this at a few banks before this one caught and stopped her.
Maybe Casey had a simular switch and bait thing going on? Thankfully a lot of that is changing now, with the ATM's that are envelope free and the holds on large/out of state check deposits, these kinds of scams can be reduced. Since a new law prohibits banks from charging overdraft fees on debit/credit transctions that were already approved, my bank has gone back to cashing every check that comes through, so that if they do overdraw me, they can collect the overdraft fees-Banks gotta make their money, I guess, my point being that a lot of them will let you take the money or will clear checks when the money is not there, to let you overdraw so they can collect fees (especially on accounts with a minimum balance requirement)...what a system!
Anyway, GREAT comments everyone = Thanks so much for always tearing these documents apart, and, reposting video clips.
Makes my head spin just thinking about the twisted, convulted ways all of the Anthony's think.
