Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #3

[silver tongue]

The newspaper also reports the killer had some link to screen-printing and had a way of "printing coloured words and patterns on fabric such as T-shirts".

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Does this suggest the victims were dressed in t-shirts ?????
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i think the drying process on certain pieces of cloth would be the same as hanging your washing out to dry a build up of dye on the line would consist of many diffrent colours this was probably found on the girls

 

[papertrail]

I heard someone mention a station wagon too. This car came in a 5-door station wagon model. To me, it seems strange that a younger person would buy such a car. It is a family car. I wonder if the person lived with his parents and borrowed their car. If the 1st rape case can now be tied to the other missing/murdered women. The Cemetery could possibly be closer to where he lives. He grew up playing in this neighborhood and could have even hung around at nights in this location. I am not sold on the Cemetery as being used for a scare tactic to keep the victim quiet. I think he went there more because it was a comfort zone for him.

Also, regarding the paint, he might have worked part/full time at a custom t-shirt shop or even a car interior design place that would have the machines necessary. He doesn't need to have owned the equipment.

Could have been a fleet / commercial vehicle that sales people used.

The 12 February 1995 is not the 1st rape case Kev; there are rapes going back to 1989 that we know of. There are rapes of girls who had been to Club Bayview going back to 1992 when 2 girls were raped on separate occasions near the Swanbourne Railway Station. They have linked the 1995 rape with the Ciara Glennon murder through forensics.

 

[papertrail]

i think the drying process on certain pieces of cloth would be the same as hanging your washing out to dry a build up of dye on the line would consist of many diffrent colours this was probably found on the girls

I think it's a bit more than transfer of printing ink onto clothes line. Otherwise why would the article refer to "coloured words and patterns on fabric such as t-shirts" and that the killer "had some link to screen printing". If it was just dye anyone could get hold of screen printing dye. There is something more to this statement.

 

[papertrail]

given we know a commercial van or panel van was used in the 1995 karrakatta rape, could he be a driver for a screen printing company ?

 

[firestarter]

The model of car they refer to was launched in 1995.
Who drove brand new cars?
Fleet vehicles?
Taxis?
Were these cars used as Taxis in 1995?

 

[Sutton]

Here is the Post Newspaper link:

http://postnewspapers.com.au/editions/20151205/pdf/paper.pdf

THEY. HAVE. DNA.

 

[J35]

Watch the news tonight. Ch 7

 

[J35]

so it was clothesline all along since 2011 the police knew that. In 2009 the police review announced that they had found something at Jane's grave site. They didn't say they had opened her grave; hard to do because she had been cremated and I understand that most evidence would have been destroyed during that process. So did the killer leave something at her gravesite prior to 2009? Her remains are in the John Meagher Memorial Gardens which is a strip close to Railway Parade.

Are you implying that they found washing line at JR's site or gravesite.

 

[Parkie]

[/LEFT]

Credibility is waning with this one Papertrail. Anyways;
It was me that emailed Bret Christian re the MM footage inside the Conti that you found Papertrail. And it was me that (indirectly) helped the Special Crime Squad to look into that as well. I was coming out of Acton Real Estate in Dalkeith late in the morning today & saw several copies of the Post bound up. I grabbed one, esp since the 1st floor is being renovated, they wouldn`t need it. Date is Dec.5th which is tomorrow. There is a big article on Pg 1 & also on Pg 47 re the case.I don`t know how they will go re ink on the rope this late in the investigation. Plod will have their hands full with the new MM frame no doubt.

 

[elastic]

i think the drying process on certain pieces of cloth would be the same as hanging your washing out to dry a build up of dye on the line would consist of many diffrent colours this was probably found on the girls

Weren't they talking to businesses about a stolen washing line from a printing shop in 2009. If that's so it doesn't necessarily mean he is linked to the printing business, he may have just stolen it conveniently from a location familiar to him. Or just a complete random location.

 

[Parkie]

Most screen printing stuff, especially paper/cardboard is dried in timber racks with about a 10 to 20 mm gap between them. Re drying T shirt screen printing I do not know.

 

[papertrail]

Are you implying that they found washing line at JR's site or gravesite.

Not implying that at all.

Just saying what the 2009 review team released about finding something at Jane's grave site. I thought it really strange. When I read the article I also wondered if someone had tampered with her site in some way. It was in an article that someone posted a link to this week; can't recall which one but will see if I can locate a copy online.

 

[papertrail]

Here is the Post Newspaper link:

http://postnewspapers.com.au/editions/20151205/pdf/paper.pdf

THEY. HAVE. DNA.

Oh my goodness how incredible this news is today. Now all they have to do is locate the perp and have very strong unbreakable non circumstantial evidence. I doubt the dna is matched to anyone like PW, SR, LW or anyone included in the CIA doc (in person).

 

[papertrail]

Credibility is waning with this one Papertrail. Anyways;
It was me that emailed Bret Christian re the MM footage inside the Conti that you found Papertrail. And it was me that (indirectly) helped the Special Crime Squad to look into that as well. I was coming out of Acton Real Estate in Dalkeith late in the morning today & saw several copies of the Post bound up. I grabbed one, esp since the 1st floor is being renovated, they wouldn`t need it. Date is Dec.5th which is tomorrow. There is a big article on Pg 1 & also on Pg 47 re the case.I don`t know how they will go re ink on the rope this late in the investigation. Plod will have their hands full with the new MM frame no doubt.

Just putting my thoughts or theories out there like everyone else Parkie, no probs.

We need to get the MM1 frames to Bret as well; the ones with the guy I've labeled MM1 that interacts with Jane before MM comes on scene (they just might be the same guy if you read my posts from a couple of days ago). I think Bret will know people in the know who know how to enhance the footage to the highest quality that is possible.

 

[papertrail]

Most screen printing stuff, especially paper/cardboard is dried in timber racks with about a 10 to 20 mm gap between them. Re drying T shirt screen printing I do not know.

Would you know if dyes / pigments that colour paint are the same or similar to those used in screen printing ?

 

[Parkie]

Go to the Post site Papertrail, & his email is there.

 

[Parkie]

Would you know if dyes / pigments that colour paint are the same or similar to those used in screen printing ?

I can`t remember. Paint & inks are different. Ink needs to dry quickly. Often in 30 mins. Screen ink takes about 2 hrs, maybe a wee bit longer. Possible further research online.

 

[papertrail]

The t-shirt pattern might be linked to the (Atlanta) olympic games held in 1996; officially opened on 19 July and concluded 4 August which just happened to be the day that Jane's remains were discovered.

Why I thought it was a soccer ball (or similar) withthe main design outline being a circular shape with what appears to be 5 circles within the circle so that would match the 5 olympic circles.

Anyone know if there were any olympic t-shirts printed in Western Australia or anywhere else in Australia ?

 

[Bartholemeus]

. Importantly, he left his DNA on the body of the 1997 victim, Ciara Glennon, traces that police have now matched to a teenager’s late-night abduction in Claremont and rape in Karrakatta cemetery in February 1995 (“Fourth serial killer victim”, POST, October 17).

Question 1: If they had DNA then why weren't the words DNA up in big lights back in October? The words used were "forensic link" and only one publication used the letters "DNA". I would have though LE finding DNA is a massive breakthrough and the letters DNA would be splashed on the cover of every WA newspaper?

Question 2: It seems pretty clear Bret Christian is the chosen mouthpiece by police. I assume this is because he is local and they believe the CSK is local.

Police have discovered that the Karrakatta victim was tied up not with telephone wire as reported in the media at the time, but with washing line. This has now been found to be impregnated with material used in screen printing. In addition, fibres found on Jane Rimmer’s naked body in 1996 that were “lost” and then rediscovered in 2011 were found to match the upholstery of a Holden VS Commodore, which was near-new at the time she was abducted.

So;
Karra victim tied up with clothes line that has printing material on it.

Police lost evidence and found it 15 years later. That evidence showed fibres from the VS Commodore that were found on JR. After she was exposed to the elements for 5 months.

. Fifty fibres lifted with adhesive tape from Jane Rimmer’s body lay in a file until 2004, when pressure from the ABC’s Australian Story program provoked WA police into bringing in a fresh expert review team of from Britain and interstate, led by SA detective superintendent Paul Schramm. This new team discovered that the fi bres had never been tested against other crimes or vehicles. At the time, Detective Schramm described the discoveries as exciting.

Err, what? He just said the evidence was lost and then relocated in 2011. Now he's saying 2004?

It was also widely reported that all 8/9 reviews of the case found no incompetence on behalf of the police.

My "sh** not adding up" beacon is flashing and making a loud noise. Maybe I'm reading it wrong because I've had a few beers but it's just not quite adding up right now. The only thing I'm sure about is police are working pretty hard for a result.

 

[Bartholemeus]

paper trail great point so the soccer shirt OR SCREEN PRINTED SHIRT could be BIG TIME CLUE

Except the dud wearing that t-shirt is not MM.....