Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #3

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With this confirmation about the car, I thought I would check over the Highgate/Northbridge man Con Bayens mentioned. From what I can find, his Commodore was ex police (bought at auctions) but was a sedan. If the reenactment is anything to go by, it also looks like it's a VP series. He was pulled over in 2002 so car would have been 8+ years? I'm not convinced it's the same man...Questioning why someone would downgrade their car unless as someone said, he had access to the wagon, and was not the owner.

I always thought it was Morey but this description of the man in this book suggests otherwise. But certainly is food for thought in that he may have had that presence about him that convinced the girls that he was trustworthy.

https://books.google.com.au/books?i...Jo4ChDoAQgYMAA#v=onepage&q=con bayens&f=false

I wonder what particular height Bayens considered the description 'tall' to mean ?

When Morey attempted to murder the ex Highgate streetworker on 12 December 2003 he was driving a white Holden Commodore VP series stationwagon (was the use of that model in the CIA doc deliberate to 'rattle the cage' as the police call it).

This attempt occurred near bushland in Maguire Road Helena Valley. At the time he picked up this woman in Highgate they had driven to two other of the woman's 'favoured' locations but he chose the Helena Valley location. He was nailed via DNA contained in a minute blood droplet located in the victim's hair. His excuse for the blood in her hair was that was that he'd actually picked her up hitchhiking in a far north Perth suburb (from memory near Whitfords) not far from his mother inlaws house located in Two Rocks; and he visited that residence on the night of the attempted murder (mother in law testified at trial). He had noticed the woman crying on the side of the road and he stopped to help her (sure). When he was consoling her (in his vehicle) she must have cut his hand with her fingernails and that is how his blood droplet got into her hair. He was convicted and currently serving sentence due for release in late 2015 / early 2016.

At the time of this attempted murder he was living with the same girlfriend that he was living with at the time Sarah McMahon disappeared. This girlfriend was called as a witness in the recent Coroners Hearing. She was the one that took control of his 'kit bag' after she had collected it from where witnesses said they had observed Sarah McMahon's deceased body. The girlfriend stated that she had handed the 'kit bag' over to a male acquaintance. The 'kit bag' contained pornographic material that detailed extreme violence, rope, tape etc. All detailed in the corners hearing report available on google. The girlfriend also laundered is clothes that he had worn on the night of the attempted murder in 2003.

A short time after Sarah McMahon's disappearance a very brief newspaper article written by a crime reporter (who subsequently became the editor of a leading West Australian newspaper [not Bret]) detailed that Morey had a connection to an art gallery / picture framing business and that he was an abattoir worker (not mentioned in the coroners hearing for some reason) which from memory (the art gallery) was linked to his girlfriend (detailed above). I do not know if she was an artist.

Morey is also believed to be involved in the disappearance / murder of Darrylyn Ugle on 25/3/2003, another Highgate streetworker. Her remains were found on a burnt tree stump at Farrell Grove picnic area near Mundaring Weir. Skull had been damaged and rope ligature used.

This girlfriend is blonde and quite tall; I would guesstimate just under 175 - 180cms.

Morey had previously been convicted (in WA) of 2 x armed robberies which had occurred in late 1989 (Midland / Guildford) and arrested a short time later; this occurred not longer after he returned from Qld. The trial was in 1992 and sentence handed down in very early 1993. He received 7 years. Do prison terms commence from date of arrest or date of offense ? I don't know when he was released but in any event he would have been out for the disappearance of Lisa Brown, another Highgate streetworker taken on 9 November 1998 (still missing). Just two years prior to Sarah McMahon's disappearance on 8 November 2000.

He had been imprisoned in Qld in 1988 (March to Nov) and escaped in November 1988 and was relocated in WA sent back to Qld; therefore he could not be involved in the Julie Cutler disappearance. On completion of sentence he headed straight to WA and changed his surname from Matusevich (his father's surname) to Morey (his mother's maiden surname). I don't know why he was sentenced in Qld. He had spent time in Pentridge as well and married a prison guard; they had 2 children.

He has been in the justice system since he was very very young; started out in South Australia as a juvenile offender.

That is why I asked the question about DNA in blood. I don't believe they would have taken his DNA at the time of arrest for 1989 offences. We know they have a droplet of his blood for 2003 arrest and conviction. They surely would have collected his full DNA for that offense. I believe (currently and for some time) DNA is collected from all prisoners.

I don't know Morey's physical height description; but his girlfriend is pretty tall but that doesn't tell us anything does it. Some men prefer tall women and some taller women prefer shorter men.

Could he be the suspect referred to in the CIA doc; the one with the loaded rifle under seat; could be if his release date / serving time was calculated from 1st armed robbery in 1989 (I'll get the date) ? Could he be the guy Bayens referred to; yep. Although I think the details about Bayens' guy is that his poi drove a sedan; perhaps that was his girlfriends vehicle and that is why boot was fully lined - easy cleanup no questions.
 
What is your reading of what the phrase 'blitz attack' means or refers to ? It's my understanding the word blitz means 'any sudden intensive attack'. Thus the blitz attack theory regarding how the Claremont victims were overcome, would possibly be they were 'blitzed' once inside the perp's vehicle.
I've always assumed there are two distinct theories;

1. The girls got into the CSK's car, whether that was a taxi, a fake police car, a Telecom car, a known associate or just a guy offering lift.
2. The girls were abducted and then forced into a car

So I'm pretty confident the correct interpretation of LE's "blitz attack" is scenario 2.

On scenario 1, at some point he had to blitz attack them. Whether that was within seconds of them getting into his car, half way to their house etc is beside the point. The blitz attack LE were referring to was before the girls got into the car.
 
. Do prison terms commence from date of arrest or date of offense
From the day they go to jail. So if they are remanded in custody between being charged and the court case (usually 6-12 months) then once the sentence is handed down, the time spent in remand is deducted. People are usually refused bail for serious offences, especially involving violence. Strength of prosecution case is also taken into account.
 
RSBM. Was it a blitz attack or did Ciara willingly talk to her killer? It can't be both, unless...

The killer gained confidence during past attacks, so he tried to interact with and con Ciara into his vehicle. When this failed, he drove down the road a bit, pulled over and waited for her.

I'm not necessarily putting this forth as my theory, just trying to come up with possibilities that fit the newly released info.
did clara willingly speak to perp
i think she either new the bloke or he fit in with the crowd, lets say donald morey pulled up with his bad mug [ugly face] youd run the other way
 
Could he be the suspect referred to in the CIA doc; the one with the loaded rifle under seat; could be if his release date / serving time was calculated from 1st armed robbery in 1989 (I'll get the date) ? Could he be the guy Bayens referred to; yep. Although I think the details about Bayens' guy is that his poi drove a sedan; perhaps that was his girlfriends vehicle and that is why boot was fully lined - easy cleanup no questions.

RSBM. Wasn't the known suspect with the loaded rifle also referred to in the doco as a sex offender? I highly doubt he's the one Bayens is referring to, especially now after reading your post. "Impressive" is not how I would describe him, he's a career crim. Surely Bayens would have alluded to this.

The way the car was described it sounded like ex pursuit. Hardly the car an artist would drive, more like a Holden rev head...

Just to make it clear the reenactment was in Sunday program, not CIA.

I know it was said that Ciara didn't take risks but I reckon she may have been feeling differently coming back from abroad. She was seen hitch hiking just before the car pulled up, according to the guys at the bus stop. Probably may have let her guard down a bit, less alert and relaxed now she was back at home and in an environment she knew well and was comfortable. Ive only seen one photo of Morey, and agree with whoever commented that if pulled over and offered a lift, you'd run the other way!
 
Okay, let's do a summary of the facts as we know them to date. Everyone feel free to add to them if I have missed any.

1) All victims went missing from Claremont between midnight and 2am.
2) SS last seen by males driving past standing on a corner opposite the phone box she telephoned a taxi from
3) JR last seen outside of Conti leaning on a post, interacted with mystery man.
4) JR's body found at Wellard South of Perth, fibres found on her body suggest they were from a VS series 1 Commodore station wagon white in colour.
5) CG last seen talking to the occupants of a light coloured vehicle (not confirmed as a white in colour VS Commodore SW) correct me if I'm wrong
6) CG's body found at Eglington North of Perth and DNA was extracted from her remains, which was matched to DNA extracted from a sexual assault victim at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995, who was blitz attacked and thrown into a panel van or commercial van (unknown make model or anything)

Please feel free to add to these facts so we can establish them all.
 
Has anyone been able to pinpoint what year the attack on the girl ex Fremantle cinema occurred; I am referring to the one detailed by ex WA policeman Dobson where 2 x chillean nationals were involved. When I listened to Dobson I got a feeling he was talking about 1995 ?

RSBM. I've searched the web for this and haven't been able to find anything.

I firmly believe these girls voluntarily got into the car, and it was someone they either knew or someone deemed trustworthy.

Men like these Chileans or Morey would have stuck out like sore thumbs in Claremont. I am second generation Australian and never dreamed of going to Claremont to hang out for that reason. Perth in the 80s / 90s was like White Australia, especially in the Western suburbs. The guy who offered the lift would have been Australian, not ethnic. Unless he travelled up from Freo :)
But anyone not Australian, would look conspicuous and people would remember them if they looked like they didn't "belong". And a girl who grew up/educated in the Western suburbs would have not jumped into a car with one.
 
Does anybody know or have links to any articles that show what type of vehicle LW was driving at the time of the murders?
 
I've googled for images of Donald Victor Morey and Donald Victor Matusevich and can only come up with one image. (the one with a moustache and glasses)
I'm really interested in looking at younger images of him, as he isn't actually stand out ugly and could probably pass for a 'normal' western suburbs inhabitant. (sans tattoos under eyes) Does anybody have any links to other images of him?
I see he is a career criminal but has managed to hold jobs down between times and make acquaintance with seemingly 'normal' people along the way. Is he a charmer? Obviously a chameleon of sorts to be so sick and depraved and yet still function within society.

I also just read a court document which states Morey/Matusevich drove a VP Commodore Station wagon. http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...m=0&synonyms=0&query=donald victor matusevich
 
List of Facts, posted by GreenDevil
1) All victims went missing from Claremont between midnight and 2am.
2) SS last seen by males driving past standing on a corner opposite the phone box she telephoned a taxi from
3) JR last seen outside of Conti leaning on a post, interacted with mystery man.
4) JR's body found at Wellard South of Perth, fibres found on her body suggest they were from a VS series 1 Commodore station wagon white in colour (vehicle available on the market in April 1995)
5) CG last seen talking to the occupants of a light coloured vehicle (not confirmed as a white in colour VS Commodore SW) correct me if I'm wrong
6) CG's body found at Eglington North of Perth and DNA was extracted from her remains, which was matched to DNA extracted from a sexual assault victim at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995, who was blitz attacked and thrown into a panel van or commercial van (unknown make model or anything)
7) The Karrakatta victim was bound with washing line that carried traces of 'screen printing material'

I added #7 and the year info to #4.

Posted this way so it's easier to keep a continuous list.

Can we start a separate list of non-MSM 'facts'?
 
I am not trying to discourage the Donald Morey discussion, but I don't believe he committed these crimes. I think he's a , and a serial killer, but not the CSK.

Only a video of him with one of the victims would convince me otherwise.

But very, very interesting connections that Papertrail and Fortune Cookie have discovered.
 
List of Facts, posted by GreenDevil
1) All victims went missing from Claremont between midnight and 2am.
2) SS last seen by males driving past standing on a corner opposite the phone box she telephoned a taxi from
3) JR last seen outside of Conti leaning on a post, interacted with mystery man.
4) JR's body found at Wellard South of Perth, fibres found on her body suggest they were from a VS series 1 Commodore station wagon white in colour (vehicle available on the market in April 1995)
5) CG last seen talking to the occupants of a light coloured vehicle (not confirmed as a white in colour VS Commodore SW) correct me if I'm wrong
6) CG's body found at Eglington North of Perth and DNA was extracted from her remains, which was matched to DNA extracted from a sexual assault victim at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995, who was blitz attacked and thrown into a panel van or commercial van (unknown make model or anything)
7) The Karrakatta victim was bound with washing line that carried traces of 'screen printing material'

I added #7 and the year info to #4.

Posted this way so it's easier to keep a continuous list.

Can we start a separate list of non-MSM 'facts'?

Regarding the car Ciara was last seen at, the guys at the bus stop were very sure it was a Holden. It's the sort of thing young guys can pick - whether a car is a Holden or a Ford.
 
Sutton,

This is from that article you linked

"In the early hours of April 5, armed police swooped on Lance as he was slowly cruising through Claremont. Three days later The West Australian newspaper splashed the breakthrough on its front page, with a detailed rundown of the police case against Lance. It was information that could have come only from within the task force, but senior officers have strenuously denied that the leak was a deliberate strategy."

Does anyone have a copy of the Western Australian Newspaper with this info regarding LW in it and the Police case against him? If not, does anyone know where it can be obtained from?
 
Regarding the car Ciara was last seen at, the guys at the bus stop were very sure it was a Holden. It's the sort of thing young guys can pick - whether a car is a Holden or a Ford.

on the CIA doco, Stanbury says "the only certainty is that the vehicle was light in colour". I assumed before the fibre revelation that they only used the Commodore SW on the CIA doco as it was light in colour, now coincidently it's been established that it was in fact a white in colour Holden VS Commodore SW as the vehicle used to possibly transport JR. Very very interesting and a deliberate ploy by police if you ask me, which suggests they knew about the fibres way back in 2008.
 
on the CIA doco, Stanbury says "the only certainty is that the vehicle was light in colour". I assumed before the fibre revelation that they only used the Commodore SW on the CIA doco as it was light in colour, now coincidently it's been established that it was in fact a white in colour Holden VS Commodore SW as the vehicle used to possibly transport JR. Very very interesting and a deliberate ploy by police if you ask me, which suggests they knew about the fibres way back in 2008.

The 27-year-old Mosman Park lawyer was seen standing on the footpath in Stirling Highway talking through the window to the occupants of the Holden.

Police have never released a description of the car.

So far no witnesses have come forward to say they saw her get into that car or any other.

Police have not been able to trace the Holden, its occupants or the occupants of the five other cars known to have been passing at the time.

They are very anxious to do so.

At a press conference on Thursday, Major Crime detective superintendent Jeff Byleveld said it was not clear whether or not the wagon was a taxi, and said witness accounts of it could not be confirmed.

But at least one of the young men is positive it was a white Holden station wagon without taxi markings.

Bret Christian - Post Newspaper - 30/08/2008
 
...Does anyone have a copy of the Western Australian Newspaper with this info regarding LW in it and the Police case against him? If not, does anyone know where it can be obtained from?
Snipped. I have searched every database I can find for online West articles (as well as Post, Times, Sunday Times, Perth Now, WA Today and Australian articles). Here is the breakdown for West Australian articles:

1879-1954: Available online through Trove
1855-July 2004: Available on microfiche in select WA libraries
July 2004-present day: Digitized online, subscription service

Papertrail has older articles in his/her personal collection.

If anyone has an active WA library card with a barcode, pm me for some links/instructions to possible other articles. (You have to live in WA to obtain a library card.)

Edit to add: Anyone with a National Library of Australia card also, I can re-find that info if someone will try to access any articles
 
I posted my conclusion on the CCTV tapes, but it is quite lengthy and I don't want to regress the thread from the current topics. So I edited it and posted to my WS blog, as maybe it will come up again or there may be room for current discussion.

Here is the link to the post:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/entry.php?1653-CCTV-Footage-of-MM

I reached the conclusion that there are no possible increments that correspond with (or come close to) the footage that was released. Police must have uninterrupted footage from both the North-facing and the South-facing cameras. Police only released a few seconds of MM, from the South-facing camera. There must also be footage of MM's face as he approaches Jane and as he continues walking past her.

This file shows my calculations (explained in the blog post).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4hhx55tuf2lvbyz/AADPPnnEKuunIri1Qig6dv9Ma?dl=0

Feel free to ask any questions (via PM if complex). And please post any errors you see.
 
Many thanks for doing that Sutton. Much appreciated. :)
 
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