Closing arguments- thread #173

[Ricki]

Have another question. Why didn't JM check with both walmarts in Salinas just to be on the safe side? You know the defense is going to say she returned it to the other one!

Rose, a few posters said the 2nd Walmart was not built until 2010. JA was in jail. If Nurmi tries to bring that up, and any of the jurors know that, they will probably discredit everything the DF has put on as a lie. Besides that, even if the jury does not know, Juan would surely bring it up at his second bat up.

 

[mahmoo]

I don't sense there's any way Nurmi can turn this train wreck around. The defense's case is too weak, has too many holes in it, and lacks any semblance of a strong foundation. No doubt they will take their last, best shot at portraying Travis as an abusive, sex-crazed maniac. The largest obstacle for Nurmi to overcome today is somehow convincing the jury that Jodi is credible. I don't believe that attempt is going to be successful nor will he even come close.

I'll go out on a limb here though and venture a guess that we'll hear the words sex, vagina, penis, anus, *advertiser censored* and 3-hole wonder NO LESS than 50 times each today :facepalm:.

 

[tss]

Have another question. Why didn't JM check with both walmarts in Salinas just to be on the safe side? You know the defense is going to say she returned it to the other one!

JM had nothing to check. There wasn't a second Walmart in Salinas until the summer of 2010

http://news.walmart.com/news-archive...es-new-walmart


Walmart Corporate - Community of Salinas Welcomes New Walmart
news.walmart.com › News Archive
SALINAS, Calif., JUNE 29, 2010 – A new Walmart opens next week in Salinas, bringing savings ... will be presented in honor of the grand-opening celebration.

SALINAS, Calif., JUNE 29, 2010 – A new Walmart opens next week in Salinas, bringing savings on a full line of groceries and an increase in tax revenue to support the area’s economy. Nonprofit organizations will also benefit from the retailer’s ongoing charitable contributions and support for community projects. The Walmart, located 1800 N. Main St., will be open to customers at 8 a.m., Wednesday, July 7.

 

[Sustained]

My guess is that Nurmi will spend the bulk of his 5 hours trying to explain away the multitude of "coincidences" and rely heavily on the testiphony of the defense experts.
I wouldn't want to be in his shoes today ...

 

[cubbeegirl]

Seems like such a small thing she is asking. I for one will honor the request and will fast and pray on Sundad

With any luck...and depending on your religious disposition, alot of prayer, the jury will get this today and will decide to work the weekend, and by Sunday we will have a verdict....

This is not my prediction...rather my fondest dream....

 

[dani]

I think that she is wearing a stun-gun- belt or something.
they could just zap her

Maybe the bailiff WANTS her to pull something so he can oke: her! No use having a fun toy if you don't get to play with it! :floorlaugh:

 

[Ricki]

Hey Linda!

I'm glad that you will be watching Nurmi's story-telling today. I will watch it all from start to finish because JM will come out in the end and destroy the Defense's entire case. He's done it already but he'll do it again! And if he Defense should dare yack on about sex then the jury will be even more disgusted than I suspect they already are!

Rose, I agree with your post.
Do you think court will run into overtime today? I did not hear the judge give instructions for this morning.
I am sure Nurmi will take up most if not all of the day. Do you know if there are time limits to each attorney regarding closings arguments.

 

[Mare10]

I remember during KC's trial that both the prosecution and defense began their closing by thanking the jury over and over again for their time and effort. I didn't even like that. I'm glad JM skipped that bit.

Rose I agree. In fact that over the top jury coddling annoyed me to no end. It was their duty.

Please don't get me wrong, Jurors deserve a lot of respect. But to coddle them like children is ridiculous. Look what happened with that coddled jury in that case.

 

[kaydono]

Maybe the bailiff WANTS her to pull something so he can oke: her! No use having a fun toy if you don't get to play with it! :floorlaugh:

I so wish whoever is in charge of Jodi's stun belt would "ACCIDENTLY" zap her and say "OOPS". kay:kay:kay:kay:

 

[cricket49]

I really hope he plays the interview where she says no jury will ever convict her!!

and.......

"If I killed Travis, I would beg for the death penalty". :rockon:

Yes, play those tapes in the killers own words.

Those should be the last words the jury hears. :stormingmad:

 

[cricket49]

Morning guys.

What a great closing argument yesterday!

The thing Juan brought up that hit home for me was the clean up process. This was a heinous crime with blood everywhere...on the walls, on the floor, on the sideboards. HOWEVER no blood was found outside of the bedroom. No blood on the stairs going to the first floor. No blood on the washer. No blood on the Clorox bottle.

She was detailed and thorough in her process and movements. Thank goodness she made many mistakes that prove she is a psycho killer.

 

[popsicle]

I think the reason Nurmi is doing closing is because they do not have anything that they can say really...especially after Juanderful ......aaaaannnnd ....Nurmi speaks so slow so it will take up time and make it appear like more. It will be interesting to watch the difference in JA's attention today. Morning justice seekers!

 

[The Farm]

I'm watching JM's closing for the second time. It's even better than I thought. I was so nervous yesterday that I missed some of the things JM said.

You know, it may sound silly to some but I just feel like there were angels surrounding JM yesterday...

It was almost like Travis was whipering in his ear.

 

[SCSam]

Just a few things this morning. Posted at court site:
5/3/2013 023 - ME: Order Entered By Court - Party (001) 5/3/2013 5/3/2013 029 - ME: Status Conference - Party (001) 5/3/2013
and

IT IS ORDERED the Office of Public Defense shall pay the mitigation specialist, MariaDe La Rosa, compensation for 100 hours of services rendered during the guilt phase of the trial.

 

[gillygrl]

I hope JW shares her Red Bull with Nurmi today.

 

[PCdoc7]

I hate to say this because he seems like a nice man. However I do believe Dan had a crush on Jodi - even after Travis died. EVERYONE else said they knew instantly that it was Jodi. Everyone else found her to be spooky and emotionally disconnected. Yet Dan . . . he sort of burrowed his head into the sand and refused to listen to everyone else and refused to look at the obvious. So he visited her in Jail and tried to be helpful to her.

Why he did that is very confusing . . . and I can only deduce he was infatuated with her. It does happen with murderers a lot. Most of the famous ones have many people trying to become romantically involved with them.

 

[Beccaboo]

With any luck...and depending on your religious disposition, alot of prayer, the jury will get this today and will decide to work the weekend, and by Sunday we will have a verdict....

This is not my prediction...rather my fondest dream....

Is it possible tbey could work over the weekend? I thought they werr unable to due to budget restraints. If they are able to work over the weekend I think we will definitely have a verdict by then

 

[kaydono]

Just a few things this morning. Posted at court site:
5/3/2013 023 - ME: Order Entered By Court - Party (001) 5/3/2013 5/3/2013 029 - ME: Status Conference - Party (001) 5/3/2013
and

IT IS ORDERED the Office of Public Defense shall pay the mitigation specialist, MariaDe La Rosa, compensation for 100 hours of services rendered during the guilt phase of the trial.

She can buy a lot of blue eye shadow and Clownish :clown::clown: ruffle blouses with all that money.

 

[cubbeegirl]

Is it possible tbey could work over the weekend? I thought they werr unable to due to budget restraints. If they are able to work over the weekend I think we will definitely have a verdict by then

I am on my first cup of coffee here and was up late last night, well early this morning re-listening to Juan's closing....BUT, I thought we were told that the jury was given their choice ,that if they wanted to work the weekend, they could...or did I dream that?

 

[SusieD]

I didn't finish watching the closing until late last night - couple of observations

When JM started talking about the murder itself and showed the photos, Wilmott seemed to (finally) disconnect from her killer sorority sister. I watched her face closely and I think she was reminded of just how evil Jodi is. For the rest of closing Wilmott put space between her and Jodi and was facing Juan for the first time in ages. She actually ignored the killer at one point.

I had to smile when Juan was discussing the difference between direct and circumstantial evidence, the beach analogy. At one point he said, so you're there on the beach, "got your Wayfarers on" which is a line straight out of Don Henley's 'Boys of Summer"

I don't know how anyone could listen to that and not vote M1. Nurmi's just going to talk about sex, I think everyone is so over that, nobody believes the jacked-up abuse stories, I really don't know what he could add.