Closing arguments- thread #176

[concernedmother]

Nurmi: "Somebody was not going to make it out alive. It was either Travis or Judy".

WHAT??? This guy is as bad as his client! Unbelieveable!!!

Travis was butt stark naked and there was a door Jodi could have ran out of. I hope the jurors remember that.

 

[AZWatcher]

Anybody else getting a liegraine from Nurmi's closing? Someone tell me that it's 5:00 where they are so I can start happy hour.... BTW why is it only an hour?

 

[popsicle]

When Nurmi was making his points and finishing each one with "it doesn't make sense". I swear it sounded like a stand-up comedy act. lol

 

[lorita jones]

:welcome: Welcome yourself, Lorita! LOL Can't have too many welcomes.

Thank you!:seeya:

 

[KPinMN]

Ok, this is what I would be thinking if I were a juror: Okay so now Nurmi is lying to me too? I know they know it's his job, but he was speaking directly to them like it's the truth, so what else r they supposed to think?

And I also keep thinking back to Juan's "they want you to think up is down and down is up."

Oh great at the same time I'm writing this, Jean C is saying the male jurors seemed to be connecting with Nurmi when he was talking about "this doesn't make sense" with regard to premeditation. She always gets me worried!!

BBM

That's what HLN pays her to do. They do it to create additional drama for their ratings. Ignore her, look to the court observers thread for better sources.

 

[aa9511]

Jean C. reporting that men on the jury were taking lots of notes during Nurmi's attempts to discredit pre-meditation by stating that JA had so MANY opportunities to kill Travis after she arrived. Not many women jurors taking notes.

I hope these jurors realize that the roommates were home off and on until 4:00 p.m. How could she shoot him??? She had to wait until late afternoon....and that she did!

Or what I was thinking is that she probably planned to do it in the morning once both the roomates left. That would explain why she gave Ryan a much earlier time then when she actually got there. But maybe she couldn't get him into the shower at that time...so they had to have sex, etc. etc, do other things before he got in the shower. I mean that makes sense I hope the jury thinks of that. If her plan was to do the killing in the shower to get any DNA of hers off (which I STRONGLY believe), then it's not like it was all under her control 'cause he had the controlling of the time of when he was actually gonna get into the shower.
I hope the jury gets that she COULDN"T have killed him any other way, all the fingers would have pointed to her immediately.

 

[Sydni]

Getting closer to the day when Jodi will be BFF's with Wendi Andriano. Was gonna post a link, but not sure if that's allowed.

Just imagine when they have their one-hour time out of their cells, how they will sit and have a hate fest over our Mr. Juanderful. :facepalm:

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Love the dancing Juanettes ... They crack me up!!

Aaaaaannnnd ... I cannot wait for Juan to be up next. Think he will talk about the Cancun trip as a motive for the murder ... as it was a place from their book "A thousand Places to See Before You Die". Poor Travis ... this just makes me so sick how he is being lost in this whole thing. I'm glad Juan went through what were most likely his last moments and made him come alive in this trial.

 

[rose222]

I have a nice bowl of mature cheddar and red onion chips. I'm going to munch on them real loud (hey I'm alone in my bedroom!) in the hopes that I'll barely be able to hear what Nurmi has to say.

Okay, alternatively I just can just press mute till he's done but I said I'd watch it and I will...

 

[DAWN TREADER]

Did anyone hear Jean C.on HLN saying something about the male jurors being on Nurmi side (defense). Anyone? moo

Yep I heard it but now that we're getting close to a verdict and the media is going to be scrambling for first dibs on interviews with jurors and defense witnesses and lawyers I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted.

 

[katydid23]

Did anyone hear Jean C.on HLN saying something about the male jurors being on Nurmi side (defense). Anyone? moo

I didn't hear her say the men were 'on his side.' I heard her say they were attentive and watching closely, while the women, not so much.

Who knows what they are thinking.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 4s

<snipped>

Back in the courtroom at the #JodiArias trial. Juan's brother has been extremely helpful with my knooter needs, hes great.

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Juan's brother???

Marriage status?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hi everyone,

Long time lurker (a few years), recently made it official and joined and this is my first time posting.
*waves to everyone*

I am very passionate about the trials that I follow and this one has affected me in a way I did not expect. I'm a little reluctant to share my thoughts on it, as I oddly feel the desire to keep them private.

Having said that, I just can't sit silently and not comment any longer. I have to say that if I were a juror in this trial, I would be highly offended and disgusted having to sit through this today. I don't want to break any site rules, so I will just say that it's insulting to my intelligence. Compared to JM's organized, thought provoking closing that was a straight path to Murder 1, KN's closing is like driving through a neighborhood full of cul de sac's on the way to the land of nowhere. I'm starting to get a headache from listening, and am gladly welcoming the commercials on HLN.

If I were on the jury, I would disregard all other testimony and just look at the autopsy photos and the crime scene photos. Those speak volumes to me. There was no need to slit his throat unless she wanted to kill him. Period. End of story. That is premeditated and shows a full effort was put forth to end this man's life. The stabbing and gunshot could be argued to be in self defense, but not the injury to the throat. The crime scene shows he was desperately, desperately trying to get away from her. As JM said yesterday, JA likes to add extra details to make her lies more believable. Those extra measures are what is going to convict her, IMHO. The level of overkill does not fit into self defense. There is absolutely no way to successfully justify slitting someone's throat.

My heart breaks for Travis Alexander's family and friends. I can not imagine what it must be like for them to have to sit through this.

From listening to the jury's questions, it shows they are listening and watching and are very intelligent. My hope is that they are unanimous. I am not sure if I could face her getting off the way CA did (pun not intended). It took me several months to get over the CA verdict (who am I kidding, I still get a pang of rage at the thought of it). I'm sure they are noticing that the defendant doodles, writes notes to JW and KN, smirks and rubs her nose raw. It would offend me if I were them. I expect if someone is on trial for their life, they would be more attentive and humble. Instead, this defendant would rather draw pictures to sell, write down witty quotes to have posted on twitter and/or figure the perfect way to structure a thought provoking sentence for her self indulgent manifesto. It's mind boggling that her DT never advised her to at least pretend she was interested. I think if/when she gets a guilty verdict, and some of the jury talk to the media, they will comment on her behavior and how it aided them in their decision.

I hope I post this right, I have no idea if I am. My apologies if I am not, or if I have broken any rules.

Welcome!

 

[Soulsad]

:welcome4:
:seeya:

Hi everyone,

Long time lurker (a few years), recently made it official and joined and this is my first time posting.
*waves to everyone*

I am very passionate about the trials that I follow and this one has affected me in a way I did not expect. I'm a little reluctant to share my thoughts on it, as I oddly feel the desire to keep them private.

Having said that, I just can't sit silently and not comment any longer. I have to say that if I were a juror in this trial, I would be highly offended and disgusted having to sit through this today. I don't want to break any site rules, so I will just say that it's insulting to my intelligence. Compared to JM's organized, thought provoking closing that was a straight path to Murder 1, KN's closing is like driving through a neighborhood full of cul de sac's on the way to the land of nowhere. I'm starting to get a headache from listening, and am gladly welcoming the commercials on HLN.

If I were on the jury, I would disregard all other testimony and just look at the autopsy photos and the crime scene photos. Those speak volumes to me. There was no need to slit his throat unless she wanted to kill him. Period. End of story. That is premeditated and shows a full effort was put forth to end this man's life. The stabbing and gunshot could be argued to be in self defense, but not the injury to the throat. The crime scene shows he was desperately, desperately trying to get away from her. As JM said yesterday, JA likes to add extra details to make her lies more believable. Those extra measures are what is going to convict her, IMHO. The level of overkill does not fit into self defense. There is absolutely no way to successfully justify slitting someone's throat.

My heart breaks for Travis Alexander's family and friends. I can not imagine what it must be like for them to have to sit through this.

From listening to the jury's questions, it shows they are listening and watching and are very intelligent. My hope is that they are unanimous. I am not sure if I could face her getting off the way CA did (pun not intended). It took me several months to get over the CA verdict (who am I kidding, I still get a pang of rage at the thought of it). I'm sure they are noticing that the defendant doodles, writes notes to JW and KN, smirks and rubs her nose raw. It would offend me if I were them. I expect if someone is on trial for their life, they would be more attentive and humble. Instead, this defendant would rather draw pictures to sell, write down witty quotes to have posted on twitter and/or figure the perfect way to structure a thought provoking sentence for her self indulgent manifesto. It's mind boggling that her DT never advised her to at least pretend she was interested. I think if/when she gets a guilty verdict, and some of the jury talk to the media, they will comment on her behavior and how it aided them in their decision.

I hope I post this right, I have no idea if I am. My apologies if I am not, or if I have broken any rules.

 

[corundogs]

FYI - thanks button being wonky again.

Thanks to ALL OF YOU truly remarkable, insightful, engaging posters!!!!!!!!

 

[Veritas_Vita]

I live too far out in the boonies. :blushing:

Sweetie, you just tell whomever is hungry to walk in the kitchen and fix themselves a sandwich.

Ain't got no bread? Then whoever is driving home from work may have to bring home some carry-out, if they complain it will be cold. You just tell them that's what microwaves are for.

Tell whomever, today is your day off and you ain't slingin' no hash in the kitchen tonight!

 

[Donnareit]

So....I gots me a hot date tonight. He's picking me up at 6:30 (4:30 AZ time). Should i tell him to pick me up a little later?? I really don't want to miss Juan!

(And yes, I realize how pathetic that sounds....)

Nope. Tell him to come early and invite him to watch the last bit of this trial with you. Then you can decide (based on his reaction) if he's really a hot date or not.

 

[roseofsharon]

Yeah, Jean C. puts me in mind of Greta V. during OJ trial.

They both run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.

 

[zoey]

:wave: T minus 4 minutes!

but they are back in chambers meaning.....no chance in hXXX

 

[dog.gone.cute]

:drumroll: And ... the seal is up on AZ Central ...

:drumroll: I luv this smiley ...

 

[gauntlet]

Marriage status?

Ala JA - brother first (housemate in JA's case) and then go after JM? :floorlaugh: