GUILTY CO - 5 Dead/18 Injured in Shooting at Club Q, Colorado Springs, Nov 2022 *arrest*

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The threat to LGBTQ+ people is real and ongoing. I hope we are allowed to discuss it here instead of treating each crime as an isolated incident. The attack that brought down the electric grid in Moore County, NC may turn out to be unrelated to the stochastic terrorism directed at an annual adults-only drag show, but it brought the level of vitriol the LGBTQ+ community from prominent people in that community to national attention as the Club Q mass shooting did. Generally, the direct action of organized groups flies under the radar or fleetingly makes regional news, like the Patriot Front and other anti-LGBTQ militia carrying weapons of war marching openly in Columbus, OH this weekend. The culprits behind the crimes in Club Q, Columbus, and Moore County do not need to be connected directly to each other. That's not how stochastic terrorism works. If we zoom in and focus only on the shooter at Club Q, we're missing the context, the catalyst. All my opinion.
 
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Dec 4 2022
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Alleged Club Q shooter to make first in-person court appearance

(EL PASO COUNTY, Colo.) — A court hearing for the suspect in the deadly LGBTQ nightclub shooting in Colorado Springs will be held on Tuesday, Dec. 6 at 8:30 a.m. The suspect, 22, is accused of fata…
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''(EL PASO COUNTY, Colo.) — A court hearing for the suspect in the deadly LGBTQ nightclub shooting in Colorado Springs will be held on Tuesday, Dec. 6 at 8:30 a.m.

The suspect, 22, is accused of fatally shooting five people and wounding 19 others at Club Q on Saturday, Nov. 19. The alleged shooter is charged with five counts of murder and five counts of bias-motivated crimes, according to court documents.

A formal filing of charges will be given for the suspect during Tuesday’s hearing, said the Fourth Judicial District Attorney’s Office. Judge Michael McHenry will preside over the court proceeding, per court documents.''


''When asked what rebuilding looks like, Haynes said maybe the club will have community rooms, but overall there’s a story to be told and it’s important to remember that story is not the gunman, but what happens afterward''.
 
Bodhi said:
The threat to LGBTQ+ people is real and ongoing. I hope we are allowed to discuss it here instead of treating each crime as an isolated incident. The attack that brought down the electric grid in Moore County, NC may turn out to be unrelated to the stochastic terrorism directed at an annual adults-only drag show, but it brought the level of vitriol the LGBTQ+ community from prominent people in that community to national attention as the Club Q mass shooting did. Generally, the direct action of organized groups flies under the radar or fleetingly makes regional news, like the Patriot Front and other anti-LGBTQ militia carrying weapons of war marching openly in Columbus, OH this weekend. The culprits behind the crimes in Club Q, Columbus, and Moore County do not need to be connected directly to each other. That's not how stochastic terrorism works. If we zoom in and focus only on the shooter at Club Q, we're missing the context, the catalyst. All my opinion.
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Yup. And the culprits aren’t just the obvious ones like Westboro Baptist/Fred Phelps - they’re parents of elementary-school kids. Go check out a Board of Education meeting before an election. It’s awful. It’s back to “gays are pedophiles.”

The good news is that kids in the 16-25 range are so angry; when our town had an anti-LGBT BOE candidate, the kids devoted a ton of time to campaigning in favor of the other candidate (who won in a landslide). It was really great to see straight kids and straight dads defending the right of people to, you know, exist.
 
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There are LGBT groups that oppose mentioning the existence of, say, a two-mom family in schools. Reading “And Tango Makes Three” constitutes “grooming,” in their view. The main groups are Gays Against Groomers and Trans Against Groomers. I wonder if the shooter was involved with those groups - that would account for a theoretical hatred of “groomers” as well as a non-binary gender identity. (Confused? There are also anti-Israel Orthodox Jewish groups, such as Neturei Karta).
 
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There are LGBT groups that oppose mentioning the existence of, say, a two-mom family in schools. Reading “And Tango Makes Three” constitutes “grooming,” in their view. The main groups are Gays Against Groomers and Trans Against Groomers. I wonder if the shooter was involved with those groups - that would account for a theoretical hatred of “groomers” as well as a non-binary gender identity. (Confused? There are also anti-Israel Orthodox Jewish groups, such as Neturei Karta).
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Well, you just can’t please everyone all the time!
 
Shamrock1 said:
There are LGBT groups that oppose mentioning the existence of, say, a two-mom family in schools. Reading “And Tango Makes Three” constitutes “grooming,” in their view. The main groups are Gays Against Groomers and Trans Against Groomers. I wonder if the shooter was involved with those groups - that would account for a theoretical hatred of “groomers” as well as a non-binary gender identity. (Confused? There are also anti-Israel Orthodox Jewish groups, such as Neturei Karta).
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Those groups you mentioned are universally denounced by the LGBTQ community and actively work to spread misinformation and promote stochastic terrorism against them.

So much so that their hate rhetoric is causing them to be banned from reputable things: Example:
Paypal, Venmo Ban Gays Against Groomers, the Anti-Trans Hate Group

Additional link with examples: Accusations of 'grooming' are the latest political attack — with homophobic origins

The only person to claims the shooter was non-binary was his lawyer. The mountain of evidence and interviews saying that he wasnt outweighs it 100 to 1.
 
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‘Next mass killer’: Dropped case foretold Colorado bloodbath

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Anderson Lee Aldrich loaded bullets into a Glock pistol and chugged vodka, ominously warning frightened grandparents not to stand in the way of an elaborate plan to stockpile guns, ammo, body armor and a homemade bomb to become “the next mass killer.”
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MrsWatson said:
apnews.com

‘Next mass killer’: Dropped case foretold Colorado bloodbath

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Anderson Lee Aldrich loaded bullets into a Glock pistol and chugged vodka, ominously warning frightened grandparents not to stand in the way of an elaborate plan to stockpile guns, ammo, body armor and a homemade bomb to become “the next mass killer.”
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It blows my mind he was able to keep weapons after what he did. I mean a SWAT team came out and they FOUND bomb making materials. WTH
 
www.cp24.com

Colorado gay club shooting suspect charged with hate crimes

The suspect accused of entering a Colorado gay nightclub clad in body armor and opening fire with an AR-15-style rifle, killing five people and wounding 17 others, was charged by prosecutors Tuesday with 305 criminal counts including hate crimes and murder.
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'In this image taken from El Paso County District Court video, Anderson Lee Aldrich, 22, center, sits during a court appearance in Colorado Springs, Colo., Tuesday, Dec. Nov. 6, 2022. Aldrich, the suspect accused of entering a Colorado gay nightclub clad in body armor and opening fire with an AR-15-style rifle, killing five people and wounding 17 others, was charged by prosecutors Tuesday with 305 criminal counts including hate crimes and murder. (El Paso County District Court via AP)'

''December 6, 2022 8:53PM EST
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - The suspect accused of entering a Colorado gay nightclub clad in body armor and opening fire with an AR-15-style rifle, killing five people and wounding 17 others, was charged by prosecutors Tuesday with 305 criminal counts including hate crimes and murder.
The counts against Anderson Lee Aldrich include 48 hate crime charges, one for each person known to have been in the club at the time.''

Of the 48 hate crime charges, 27 counts involve injuries and 21 involve people fearing injury or property damage. In addition to those killed or wounded by gunfire, police have said five people had non-gunshot injuries and other victims had “no visible injuries.”

Club Q's co-owner, Matthew Haynes, said the filing of 305 charges “graphically illustrates how heinous and horrific this attack was on our community.”
 
www.axios.com

Club Q shooting suspect: Unsealed documents show dismissed 2021 charges

The charges were from a 2021 standoff, during which the suspect vowed to become "the next mass killer."
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A Colorado judge on Thursday unsealed documents involving dismissed charges against the suspected Club Q mass shooter stemming from a June 2021 bomb threat incident during which the suspect vowed to become "the next mass killer."

The unsealed documents revealed that a court dropped 2021 case against Anderson Lee Aldrich after the suspect's family members refused to cooperate with authorities and stand as witnesses during a trial.

More at link.
 
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In 2021, judge warned of gay bar attacker's shootout plans

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — A judge who dismissed a 2021 kidnapping case against the Colorado gay nightclub shooter warned last year that the defendant had been stockpiling weapons and planning a shootout, and needed mental health treatment or "it’s going to be so bad.”
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A judge who dismissed a 2021 kidnapping case against the Colorado gay nightclub shooter warned last year that the defendant had been stockpiling weapons and planning a shootout, and needed mental health treatment or “it’s going to be so bad.”
 
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