Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #35

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Unless LE has some really solid proof that she plotted a murder and carried it out, I’m sure there will be at least one juror who will see this as an accident that she panicked from n covered up, as there is no history of abuse against either child, and go easy on her. Although, if she did hit him and he died from that, because of his age, I guess that would be enough for M1, especially if it took hours for him to die and she didn’t seek care. It’s a good thing they aren’t seeking the DP. The burden would be so much higher.

It’s really hard to discuss anything on board because you don’t know what is and what isn’t being censored and it seems to change daily. So that’s all I will say regarding this issue.
 
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Angels27 said:
Unless LE has some really solid proof that she plotted a murder and carried it out, I’m sure there will be at least one juror who will see this as an accident that she panicked from n covered up, as there is no history of abuse against either child, and go easy on her. Although, if she did hit him and he died from that, because of his age, I guess that would be enough for M1, especially if it took hours for him to die and she didn’t seek care.
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All it takes is one. But the DA in this case is Allen and he works with Dan May. They won’t let a juror have sympathy for this monster. I am sure of it.
 
Angels27 said:
Unless LE has some really solid proof that she plotted a murder and carried it out, I’m sure there will be at least one juror who will see this as an accident that she panicked from n covered up, as there is no history of abuse against either child, and go easy on her. Although, if she did hit him and he died from that, because of his age, I guess that would be enough for M1, especially if it took hours for him to die and she didn’t seek care.
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They don’t have to show that she plotted anything, as she’s not charged under the “premeditation” scenario.

Abuse and failure to seek treatment would suffice. They aren’t guessing that she abused him, and I’d bet a lot of money that one or both children told law enforcement what happened Sunday.
 
MassGuy said:
I definitely don’t believe she got all that creative. There aren’t going to be harnesses or anything crazy involved in this.

She didn’t have a lot of time to work with, and was likely in a panicked state.
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Right, I doubt she used dog coats or harnesses to secure weights around his body or restrained him or anything like that. It would have taken enough time to drive to what ever area she disposed of the body, then remove the body from the vehicle and lift, carry, or drag a body to wherever she left it.

If she really did go to the Sports store and back and forth to Petco twice, it would not have left much time to come up with an elaborate plan.

Imo
 
Warwick7 said:
What????

I just got on---I'm still catching up.

How do we know this other way thing???
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I think that was "said" by TS way back in the first threads.
I remember it as I thought-- "Wait, wasn't she downstairs exercising w/headphones on ?"
Sorry I can't recall which poster or thread.
Not sure if it's accurate as I think RD showed the footage to AS first and then LE.
 
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MassGuy said:
They don’t have to show that she plotted anything, as she’s not charged under the “premeditation” scenario.

Abuse and failure to seek treatment would suffice. They aren’t guessing that she abused him, and I’d bet a lot of money that one or both children told law enforcement what happened Sunday.
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Good to know. And here’s hoping.
 
Angels27 said:
Unless LE has some really solid proof that she plotted a murder and carried it out, I’m sure there will be at least one juror who will see this as an accident that she panicked from n covered up, as there is no history of abuse against either child, and go easy on her. Although, if she did hit him and he died from that, because of his age, I guess that would be enough for M1, especially if it took hours for him to die and she didn’t seek care. It’s a good thing they aren’t seeking the DP. The burden would be so much higher.

It’s really hard to discuss anything on board because you don’t know what is and what isn’t being censored and it seems to change daily. So that’s all I will say regarding this issue.
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There is so much we aren't privy too yet.
We honestly don't know the details behind there being "no history" of abuse.

When the Frazee trial took place, it blew us away the things we did not know...
 
Angels27 said:
Unless LE has some really solid proof that she plotted a murder and carried it out, I’m sure there will be at least one juror who will see this as an accident that she panicked from n covered up, as there is no history of abuse against either child, and go easy on her. Although, if she did hit him and he died from that, because of his age, I guess that would be enough for M1, especially if it took hours for him to die and she didn’t seek care. It’s a good thing they aren’t seeking the DP. The burden would be so much higher.

It’s really hard to discuss anything on board because you don’t know what is and what isn’t being censored and it seems to change daily. So that’s all I will say regarding this issue.
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Yes, it doesn't matter whether it was an accident or if there is no history of abuse. Even if it was the first time she ever abused him physically, she could still be found guilty of Murder in the first degree. It only takes one incident and if the child died as a result, she will be held accountable for the murder.

Imo
 
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