Honey_West
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Yeah, I don't think she would have had a problem dragging or pulling the suitcase up the stairs by herself. It looks like there are just a few steps to the landing and then a few more to the main level.IIRC there is no way to exit the house from the basement level. Only a front door, the slider at the back of the house from the dining area and the door from the main floor into the garage.
MOO I think a fit woman could wrangle getting a 95 lb wheeled suitcase up a flight of stairs without too much problem.
Yup. I thought the Berreth case was a slam dunk from the preliminary hearing onward.The mountain of evidence is overwhelming in this case even more so than in the CA case
Just one key difference is that LE knew about GS disappearance very early and there was a lot of evidence found right in the victims own home.
We do not know that all the blood evidence is inconclusive and in fact I believe we have learned that some of it has already been shown to be conclusive .
It seems to get forgotten but there were many that thought that the evidence in the Berreth case was lacking. And that was a no body prosecution!
Many were astounded by what we later learned that investigators had on PF.
And much like the Berreth case prosecutors were ready and prepared to go forward with a no body prosecution in this case as well. The significance of that fact cannot be understated!
There's a reason why no body cases have such a high success rate, bc it takes a lot of overwhelming evidence to make those charges stick
She's guilty and they have her dead to rights. And these prosecutors that are seeing to that have a very proven track record.
HH being truthful is important for the family to have all the details and for understanding what completely transpired.
Is it critical to getting a guilty verdict? Personally I think they have plenty to do it without her full cooperation.
I do believe its critical in HH own wellbeing to be truthful and fully break away from her mother, and non-withstanding its simply the right thing to do.
But what She doesn't fully answer and or refuses to say may be just as powerful against her mother as what she does say.
Either way T is going to go down and DA Allen with the guidance of Dan May will see to that IMO
The evidence is Overwhelming
The mountain of evidence is overwhelming in this case even more so than in the CA case
Just one key difference is that LE knew about GS disappearance very early and there was a lot of evidence found right in the victims own home.
We do not know that all the blood evidence is inconclusive and in fact I believe we have learned that some of it has already been shown to be conclusive .
It seems to get forgotten but there were many that thought that the evidence in the Berreth case was lacking. And that was a no body prosecution!
Many were astounded by what we later learned that investigators had on PF.
And much like the Berreth case prosecutors were ready and prepared to go forward with a no body prosecution in this case as well. The significance of that fact cannot be understated!
There's a reason why no body cases have such a high success rate, bc it takes a lot of overwhelming evidence to make those charges stick
She's guilty and they have her dead to rights. And these prosecutors that are seeing to that have a very proven track record.
HH being truthful is important for the family to have all the details and for understanding what completely transpired.
Is it critical to getting a guilty verdict? Personally I think they have plenty to do it without her full cooperation.
I do believe its critical in HH own wellbeing to be truthful and fully break away from her mother, and non-withstanding its simply the right thing to do.
But what She doesn't fully answer and or refuses to say may be just as powerful against her mother as what she does say.
Either way T is going to go down and DA Allen with the guidance of Dan May will see to that IMO
The evidence is Overwhelming
I agree Katy. As a matter of fact I don't think HH thought it was urgent to get back either. She bought baby oil, bubble gum and other things.I agree. I think it is likely that HH did as she was told, without realising WHY her mom needed to borrow her VW, or why she needed to take her little sister to the Dollar store for cleaning products---she is just used to being ordered around by a controlling, domineering mother, and she has learned to comply. JMO
Well and truly stuffed!They still had blood evidence items that had yet to come back at the time the AA was written, as well. It was stated in the AA that not all evidence in LE's possession would be discussed in that document. GPS shows she not only drove along the precise stretch of road where the particle board stained with Gannon's blood was found... twice in cars she rented... but she stopped the car and the car remained immobile for 5 minutes at that point in the road. We don't have any idea what other evidence LE has but we'll soon find out and we've already been informed that they do have more.
Google search: "How do you know when a goose is thoroughly cooked?"
Answer: "The goose is thoroughly cooked when it reaches an internal temperature of around 175°F/80°C at the thickest part of the thigh and 160°F/75°C in the center of the stuffing."
Yeah, I don't think she would have had a problem dragging or pulling the suitcase up the stairs by herself. It looks like there are just a few steps to the landing and then a few more to the main level.
LE found blood on the stairs, on the landing and from the steps and pathway leading to the garage, as well as in the garage underneath where her car was parked on Monday night.
At some point she probably transferred the body to the car in the suitcase, after placing the board in the trunk to keep blood from soaking through the suitcase.
Maybe that's when she got the blood on the trunk of the car. Either that or it happened when she dumped the body on Tuesday night.
There was no way she was going to allow anyone to see her car, so there had to be some very incriminating evidence in it.
Imo
Just brainstorming here. But could it be that LS did not use the stairs to pull the suitcase up?
What if she took the suitcase outside from Gannon's room on the lower basement level then just pulled it up in the yard to the garage? Then she just took it in the side door of garage.
Using the yard would not involve steps and she could have waited til after dark. JMO.
Thoughts?
all IMOYah she knows, and she’s had plenty of time to reflect on what’s what and come to the hard understanding of who her mother truly was and what she was fully capable of.
If she hasn’t already, now is the time to put on her big girl panties and do what’s right.
Here is the original MLS listing for the home. Others have mentioned that the basement has what is called egress windows.Attached a screenshot from Google Earth. Definitely looks flat. Is there a set of outside stairs from the two downstairs bedrooms up to the back of the house? I am looking at home photos trying to see a back staircase.
View attachment 245548
They still had blood evidence items that had yet to come back at the time the AA was written, as well. It was stated in the AA that not all evidence in LE's possession would be discussed in that document. GPS shows she not only drove along the precise stretch of road where the particle board stained with Gannon's blood was found... twice in cars she rented... but she stopped the car and the car remained immobile for 5 minutes at that point in the road. We don't have any idea what other evidence LE has but we'll soon find out and we've already been informed that they do have more.
Google search: "How do you know when a goose is thoroughly cooked?"
Answer: "The goose is thoroughly cooked when it reaches an internal temperature of around 175°F/80°C at the thickest part of the thigh and 160°F/75°C in the center of the stuffing."
Agreed!I'm just going to throw this out there.
When a person has a lot of adrenaline they can be very strong sometimes.
I think LS had the strength to do all of this on her own.
I'm 5'3" and feel confident I could if I felt I needed to.
Just saying.
And you now what else? I could have figured out how to get Gannon's body cross country too. And into Florida.Agreed!
And there are various cases that we can point to that show many with that same ability.
There’s nothing in this case that T couldn’t have done on her own as far as physical limitations imo
I agree. I think it is likely that HH did as she was told, without realising WHY her mom needed to borrow her VW, or why she needed to take her little sister to the Dollar store for cleaning products---she is just used to being ordered around by a controlling, domineering mother, and she has learned to comply. JMO
I'm just going to throw this out there.
When a person has a lot of adrenaline they can be very strong sometimes.
I think LS had the strength to do all of this on her own.
I'm 5'3" and feel confident I could if I felt I needed to.
Just saying.
And you now what else? I could have figured out how to get Gannon's body cross country too. And into Florida.
I think she did it all quickly, before they had time to get their ducks in a row.
^^bbmFirst set of bold type BBM
It's true TS's most stable teaching employment occurred before she married AS. In Horry Co SC she worked as a Special Ed teacher for 3 years 2012-2015 and was not fired. She then worked for a year as a history teacher for another county. Prior to employment as a teacher she worked as a school system para-professional 2010-2012 in Horry Co. according to the school system. So that's 6 years of stable employment. Former Horry County school employee charged in step-son’s murder being extradited back to Colorado
Then trouble began and she ended up losing her license. But she was not fired from every CO job. She was fired from the District 20 job just after GS went missing. She was still in orientation and had not begun teaching.
Academy D-20 rescinded job offer to Letecia Stauch after stepson went missing
She was not fired from District 3 so far as we know and so far as the district has said. (Mar 2019-Nov 2019.) She worked first as a long-term substitute teacher and then as an elementary teacher. I tend to believe that she was not fired from those jobs. If she had been, I doubt District 20 would have hired her as that would have been easy to find in screening. I also suspect had she been "fired" as a sub in D-3, she wouldn't have then been hired by D-3 as a regular teacher. I suspect whatever "application irregularities" there were that led to D-20 firing her occurred out of state or had to do with her loss of her SC license. (That license was restored according to SC database.) But she was required to reveal the loss on her application.
Gannon's stepmom former Widefield School District teacher
The curriculum developer stuff on LinkedIn does appear to have been fabricated. (Like alot of LinkedIn stuff IMO!)
JMO
Here is the original MLS listing for the home. Others have mentioned that the basement has what is called egress windows.
6627 Mandan Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - SOLD LISTING, MLS # 8973578 | Pink Realty
I’m not familiar with them, so I googled egress windows.
Window Wells | Peak Structural
BBMYeah, I don't think she would have had a problem dragging or pulling the suitcase up the stairs by herself. It looks like there are just a few steps to the landing and then a few more to the main level.
LE found blood on the stairs, on the landing and from the steps and pathway leading to the garage, as well as in the garage underneath where her car was parked on Monday night.
At some point she probably transferred the body to the car in the suitcase, after placing the board in the trunk to keep blood from soaking through the suitcase.
Maybe that's when she got the blood on the trunk of the car. Either that or it happened when she dumped the body on Tuesday night.
There was no way she was going to allow anyone to see her car, so there had to be some very incriminating evidence in it.
Imo