Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #9

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Status
Not open for further replies.
Yes our map sleuthers should get busy - it’s a four hour timeframe but within the County !!! And my feeling is water - I hope to work on it myself tomorrow
IMO
I have since the beginning and still do agree with you on the "water" aspect.
I suppose she could have buried him somewhere if that was indeed a shovel in the bag, but my first instinct was water also.
 
L
Hi- newbie here- does anyone know if Gannon had a backpack? I've glanced quickly at missing posters and original post here but see no mention. I'm in MA and I ask because, yesterday morning, I saw a boy from across an intersection while I was sitting at a red light. He had a blue jacket and jeans on with dark hair and was wearing a grey backpack (not 100% on the color). I had been reading about this case over the weekend and something about this boy jumped out to me- he seemed almost like he was unsure of where he was going; crossed the street and then back again and took a turn down another street which would have led him back where he came from. I was at the time unfortunately rushing my son to urgent care so this thought really didn't come back to me until now. Do we know if he might have ties to anyone in MA? I'm debating whether I should call the tip line or I'm thinking too much into this..
LS actually had a backpack on when she walked to the red truck before backing in her driveway and came back without it from what we were shown so...I'd say give them a call. It wouldn't hurt.
 
But is
Yes our map sleuthers should get busy - it’s a four hour timeframe but within the County !!! And my feeling is water - I hope to work on it myself tomorrow
IMO
But is it really 4 hours? Or, just that we can only talk about the four hours from leaving the house to returning to the house? For now....
 
I wonder if TS really is and has been active on boards such as this one for the purpose of studying cases or getting ideas.... the text from the victim’s phone in KB, or HD the runaway child who was found in an abandoned home. Are there any others that could have something in common? What if all of this is some kind of copy-cat mash up of recent cases.... MOO MOO

LS lived in Horry County SC. Heather Elvis disappeared from Horry County SC in December of 2013. The case was national and LS is acting just like Tammy Moorer who was convicted of kidnapping Heather Elvis. Tammy Moorer tried to blame the disappearance on Heather's father, just as LS is placing the blame on Gannon's mother. Same disgusting tactics! LS and Tammy Moorer both harassed the victims family online. It just can't be a coincidence!
 
This tugs at my heartstrings even though I want to shrug it off as another evil-doing. I have an 11 yo boy.
He acts like a teenager.
He plays video games.
He does youtube stuff.
Why do I feel like these last “two years” have been hell for Gannon? Not necessarily physical (even though he is a small dude), but just mental/emotional drama. How did it come to this?
 
I think i just noticed something in the surveillance video. It is the very beginning of the video and concerns the bag(s) she is carrying.

Ok, so that is it. I think she is not carrying one large flat-bottomed bag, but instead carrying two bags (or whatever they are).

To me, it looks like a backpack on her right shoulder, and a separate object in her left hand. It looks like it could be one large bag......until just before she gets to the truck. She drops her left hand, and there are a few frames where it looks like the object in her left hand is completely separate from the "backpack".

I might be wrong. It might not matter if I am right. But it could change some theories that involve rifles, shovels, and softball bats.

She does seem to be packing pretty heavy to run a few errands, though.

MOO
 
I would love to wake up tomorrow and read that Gannon was found and was home safe, but I doubt that will be the outcome. And if they do find this precious young boy, we may never know what actually happened to him.

Put yourself in TS's shoes for a minute. Would you stay in the area? Does she have family there? Does she have a job to support herself since she was "kicked out" of the home? She certainly can't participate in any searches or vigils. Other than LE telling her to stay in town, what would keep her there?
 
But is

But is it really 4 hours? Or, just that we can only talk about the four hours from leaving the house to returning to the house? For now....
Well that’s the thing - IMO LE has given us via the video a piece of the puzzle - as I learn more about the dynamics I’m thinking he is way closer to home than I originally thought and there is much more to be revealed - I’ve learned from Kelsey and Jennifer and so many other cases - LE gathers a ton of data before they get a warrant
IMO
 
LS lived in Horry County SC. Heather Elvis disappeared from Horry County SC in December of 2013. The case was national and LS is acting just like Tammy Moorer who was convicted of kidnapping Heather Elvis. Tammy Moorer tried to blame the disappearance on Heather's father, just as LS is placing the blame on Gannon's mother. Same disgusting tactics! LS and Tammy Moorer both harassed the victims family online. It just can't be a coincidence!
Yep
 
I would love to wake up tomorrow and read that Gannon was found and was home safe, but I doubt that will be the outcome. And if they do find this precious young boy, we may never know what actually happened to him.

Put yourself in TS's shoes for a minute. Would you stay in the area? Does she have family there? Does she have a job to support herself since she was "kicked out" of the home? She certainly can't participate in any searches or vigils. Other than LE telling her to stay in town, what would keep her there?
Her 17 year old daughter.
 
She really thought she could beat the wrap by being here and declaring her innocence, arguing with everyone, telling “her” truth.

TS has been doing the same thing on FB and the R word that is banned here. So I wouldn't be surprised if she is on thread. IMO
Perhaps, but I don't think this site is well suited for her. It's too civilized and we're not allowed such vulgarity as has been displayed elsewhere which seems to suit her "personality". You know, like, disorder. ;):p
 
I've spent quite a bit of time in Colorado Springs over the last couple of years.

Looked at a house in one area of town. The realtor informed us that there's an entire area over there with old precarious mines. Just FYI that that's a real thing, not that I think it's altogether relevant here.

Also, and I think the locals will agree, Colorado Springs has a rather unique master zoning plan. In my experience, there's the older parts of town including downtown but all the developments are very similar, little communities unto themselves, many with signature schools, many of them with community features like pools, gyms and the like. Within those developments are small curving roads that then spill out onto main thoroughfares, and those in turn spill into one of only a few major arteries (like 1-25). Think 20mph, 45mph and 70mph speeds. It's a very efficient system but it still takes a good 25 minutes usually to get to anywhere. In my experience.

I share this because I don't for a second think someone drove 2 hours away and 2 hours back from anywhere. Just doesn't strike me as realistic. The time it takes just to get around IN TOWN narrows the four hour gap considerably IMO. Today's LE update seems to bear that out. Someone didn't go very far. And also LE doesn't appear to think there was help or a hand off or anything that would remove our dear boy from the general area.

There are lots of wide open spaces, lots of culverts, lots of natural topography alongside developments, much new construction. Mountains, ravines, the Black Forest. An impossible search grid but in the end, I think they'll nail this down by good, old fashioned investigative diligence.

Between traffic cameras and vehicle system software, I think LE is going to have all the data they need and Dan May will see to it that justice is served. Traffic cameras don't lie. Me, I vote for LWOP plus a couple hundred years. It still won't be long enough, but it's a start.

JMO
 
Last edited:
You think an 11 year old would runaway, some where so far away and so well hidden, to commit suicide in a manner that he wouldn't be found within two weeks? That doesn't seem very likely imo
He doesn't have to be very far away at all and people are often not found for months or years or ever even when they are nearby.Plus, they're searching water, so he could have fallen through ice, just for example. So yes, I think it's more than entirely possible.

ETA: to be clear I said accident OR suicide. Accident first.
 
I think i just noticed something in the surveillance video. It is the very beginning of the video and concerns the bag(s) she is carrying.

Ok, so that is it. I think she is not carrying one large flat-bottomed bag, but instead carrying two bags (or whatever they are).

To me, it looks like a backpack on her right shoulder, and a separate object in her left hand. It looks like it could be one large bag......until just before she gets to the truck. She drops her left hand, and there are a few frames where it looks like the object in her left hand is completely separate from the "backpack".

I might be wrong. It might not matter if I am right. But it could change some theories that involve rifles, shovels, and softball bats.

She does seem to be packing pretty heavy to run a few errands, though.

MOO

I watched to see what you were talking about and I caught something else too, near the end @6:39 (of the 6:56 long video if theres multiple). The space between truck and car next to truck, looking under thru the underside nearly out of frame, blinks a little darker like a shadow. It's just a pixel or two, but definitely darker. Not saying its Gannon getting out of the other side, maybe someone walking from the garage or maybe just a shadow from a tree branch in the wind. But it caught my eye.
 
“Tonight I spoke with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office who confirmed teams were out searching today but would not specify which area. They said the search has not extended outside of El Paso County. #FindGannon #GannonStauch” (BAIBM)
7:26 PM · Feb 10, 2020 (local/MST)
Amber Jo Cooper on Twitter

Searching for Gannon: Fountain-area 11-year-old now missing for two weeks

They know where she went. I think they are looking in specific areas because they have narrowed her time line. The CS camera map that was posted in the last thread showed that the truck would have come up multiple times once they left their neighborhood.

Thanks to @SalMAnder for the great link and post. I pasted it below.

Link to traffic cameras in the Colorado Springs area:
http://coloradosprings.maps.arcgis....id=6b4da579c8eb45e39da06db5186e05e8&mlid=6211
 
You think an 11 year old would runaway, some where so far away and so well hidden, to commit suicide in a manner that he wouldn't be found within two weeks? That doesn't seem very likely imo
In my opinion, I seriously doubt he ran away. If he had run away, I am sure by now he would have told somebody who he was and that he was lost and he wanted to go home. Hes a cold and hungry 11 year old. I'm sure he knows his address. He would have been back in an hour after he ran off. So in my opinion him running away is completely unbelievable.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
66
Guests online
215
Total visitors
281

Forum statistics

Threads
609,776
Messages
18,257,813
Members
234,757
Latest member
Kezzie
Back
Top