CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #19

[LittleMissContrary]

I agree. I found it very offensive a couple of threads back for someone to say that he doesn't "look like he's playing with a full deck of cards". How RUDE. To those of us who have special needs children, please tell us HOW someone looks or doesn't look like this? My daughter for example, is a blond haired blue eyed absolutely beautiful girl! By looking at her photo, you would never in a million years guess that she has a disability, yet I'd guess she would fall within that person's opinion of "not playing with a full deck of cards". Please think about people's feelings before posting blatently rude and judgemental comments about others.

I did not read her comment like that at all. I have never understood the saying "not playing with a full deck of cards" to indicate anyone with a disability.

 

[carmenugt]

Interesting read... http://www.all-about-forensic-psych...minal-profiling-from-crime-scene-analysis.pdf

 

[callyn]

Unless he had the equipment or access to the necessary equipment or a reasonable facsimile to achieve this, then my guess is "not so much." If such a thing had occurred, LE would have known about that aspect of the case since they did have some of her remains.

Of course, it would have to be a very crude embalming. Not that there is much reason to think that such a thing took place. Only that he had an interest in mortuary science.

Yes, certainly LE would have known about it, but we would not.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I feel sorry and bad for his little brother.Were they close?This would be devastating for him.I know I looked up to my older brother.He was my hero and my protector.When he moved out of the house to go to collage was lost and felt afraid.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Anybody had a chance to go through SmoothOperator's list of abduction attempts etc and see if any of them could be him?

Also, has it been made clear if the remains 'under the house' are from more than just Jessica?

I added a couple more to our list and actually had logged in to post it in the new thread this afternoon, but when getting here was greeted with the breaking news and had since then forgotten all about posting the list with the new additions.. So here it is attached below(thanx for reminding me to post it with the new add ons )

Below is a documented and sourced by me timeline of sorts of all the attempted abductions within the last 18 months in this particular area of Colorado.
**added couple more attempted abductions to the timeline*

October 23, 2012-
Arvada- A young girl was approached while on her way to school by a male in a red sedan telling her to get in the car.
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/295794/346/Brighton-Police-investigate-attempted-abduction

October 22, 2012-
Arvada- An 8yo girl attempted abduction at school bus stop.
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/295794/346/Brighton-Police-investigate-attempted-abduction

October 19, 2012-
Colorado Springs- Police said the child was walking in the parking lot of The Classical Academy school at 975 Stout Road when a man in a truck asked him to help find a lost puppy.

The boy said the middle-aged man was sitting in a brown, rusty, full-sized truck, possibly a Ford. The man never exited the truck or approached the child. The incident happened around 12:45 p.m.
http://www.krdo.com/news/Police-sea...boy/-/417220/17063008/-/15tc41bz/-/index.html

October 17 2012-
LITTLETON, Colo.—A 14-year-old boy walking home from a friend's house has told authorities a man tried to pull him toward a car before he could run away.
http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21796731

October 16 2012-
Aurora- A woman is approached in a bar parking lot and a perp attempted to place a chemical soaked rag over her mouth.she was able to escape and full attempt caught on video.(2 perps)
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...kidnapping-outside-bar-investigated-in-aurora

October 5 2012-
Westminster- Jessica Ridgeway abducted on her way to school.

September 14 2012-
Colorado Springs- The first happened in the 7700 block of Fountain Mesa Road when a child was walking home from school, according to police. The child told police a black man in a grey pick up truck stopped and told the child to get into the truck. The child ran away.
http://www.krdo.com/news/Fountain-P...ction/-/417220/16607542/-/rfg2p5/-/index.html

September 14 2012-
Colorado Springs- The second incident happened near Fountain Middle School as a child was walking home from school. Police say, in this case, the child reported being followed by an older white pick up truck. When the child got out a cell phone to make a call the truck drove away.
http://www.krdo.com/news/Fountain-P...ction/-/417220/16607542/-/rfg2p5/-/index.html

September 12 2012-
Arvada- An elementary school student reported someone attempting to entice him into a car with candy around 5:40 p.m. on Wednesday, in front of Fitzmorris Elementary School at 62nd Avenue and Independence Street.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ce-warning-about-two-cases-of-stranger-danger

September 10 2012-
El Paso county- A 12-year-old boy managed to escape a possible kidnapper early Monday morning.

According to Lt. Jeff Kramer with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office, the boy was on Cabellero Avenue near Grand Peak in Security-Widefield around 6:40 a.m. when an man approached him and tried to make the boy get in his car.

The boy was able to get away, and was unharmed in the attempted abduction. Kramer says that the boy didn't see a gun, but that the suspect implied that he had one. The Sheriff's Office is treating the case as though the suspect did have a gun.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/...-Security-Widefield-169185296.html?mobile=yes

September 9 2012-
Arvada- According to Arvada police, around 5:30 p.m. on Sunday, a child was walking near Quaker Acres Park, near 74th Place and Terry Court, when someone tried to entice the child into a car with candy.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ce-warning-about-two-cases-of-stranger-danger

June 19 2012-
El Paso county- An 8-year-old girl was grabbed Tuesday afternoon on a Stratmoor Valley street by a man who drove off with her but dropped her off on Loomis Avenue about 15 minutes later, the El Paso County Sheriff's Office said.
http://www.gazette.com/articles/kidnapping-140527-around-victim.html

May 28 2012-
Westminster- A 22yo jogger is grabbed from behind and chemical soaked rag attempted to be placed over her mouth. She was able to fight him off and call 911
**this is the case definitively linked to Jessica Ridgeway case per WPD**
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...geway-slaying-and-earlier-ketner-lake-attacks

May 10 2012-
Westminster- Three weeks before a man attacked a woman near Ketner Lake, someone with a similar description choked an 8-year-old boy in a possible kidnapping attempt.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21817974/jogger-choked-8-year-old-boy-near-ketner

January 20 2012-
Colorado City- ACTUAL ABDUCTION
9yo girl abducted but able to escape when car broke down. Suffered injuries but alive. Garcia arrested for abduction.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19782469

October 5 2011-
Aurora- A 13yo girl on her way to school in Aurora, Co was approached and perp attempted to get her into his car.sketch also at link..
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/attempted-child-abduction-investigated-in-aurora

August 12 2011-
Pueblo- Police say the woman didn't notice the man in her mini-van when she pulled out of the parking lot. She heard a noise inside, turned around and saw the man climbing over the seats coming toward her. The 24 year old jumped out of the van while it was in gear. The van, with the man inside, crashed into a tree at 1st and Union.
http://www.koaa.com/news/pueblo-woman-jumps-from-a-moving-van-to-avoid-being-abducted/

July 5 2011-
Colorado Springs- It happened in the carmel middle school area, that's near Fountain Blvd. and Chelton Rd.

Police say he pulled up to the 9yo girl who was waiting for an ice cream truck and asked her if she wanted him to expose himself.

When the girl said no, the man offered her a dollar.
http://www.koaa.com/news/police-searching-for-man-who-tried-to-expose-himself-to-a-young-girl/

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[MidwestMama]

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From what I read mom filed bancruptcy in May 2012. No news on brother.

Although brother is not to be sleuthed I can confirm a neighbor said AS has a younger brother that lived with AS and his mom. Don't know how old. She said the family moved in when younger brother was a baby.

 

[CA Lady]

Did someone post an article that noted police announce the neighborhood closed to public access for several days?

Posted aprox. 3 hrs ago:

Westminster Police‏@WestminsterPD

The nghbrhood around 10622 W. 102nd Ave will be closed to all but residents for the next couple of days

 

[LotusPawprint]

It makes some sense now with the knowledge of what he was studying and obviously had an interest in (perverse morbid sickening repulsive), that he could've done some online ordering for class or personal projects. It wouldn't raise red flags necessarily to a parent if that's what their child was persuing as a career. I wouldn't be surprised if he has tools and supplies ordered from some CSI websites or the like. Maybe some of those items were even required for his classes?

 

[Madeleine74]

He wore a cross in 2009. We don't know if the cross in that 2009 screen capture pic is "the" same cross that was found at one of the crime scenes. To me it does not look exactly the same.

 

[cindersoot]

They are saying he is a loner, hung out with very young girls.

 

[callyn]

OMG - He really did wear that around his neck.

I still cannot get past the fact that there is NO WEAR on the hole in the cross that LE showed. Even a short length of time being worn would make a mark. Unless it has been refinished, I don't believe the cross in that video could be the very same one.

ETA: lol, not that it matters in the long run if it is the same cross, it is incredible that sharp eyes spotted the cross he is wearing in the video. It certainly looks like the same type, if not the same one.

 

[Desdemona]

That's what I was wondering--was he hanging out with younger girls, or girls his own age? The girl that was interviewed seemed like she could be 17 to me.

The girl who looked like Jessica? Who said he always wanted to play Capture the Flag? As I recall, in the interview she added an explanatory modification, such as "years ago," or "when we were younger." Sorry, not an exact quote and no link, just from memory.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

To the end (and the Dobson interview was either the day before or the night before he died), Ted Bundy had a knack for telling people what they wanted to hear.

Dobson wanted to hear the story of EveryKid who would have been normal had it not been for the evil influence of *advertiser censored* and that's exactly what he got.

Tell me about it.

I had the misfortune of hearing Dr Dobson's radio show many, many nights as I was growing up (my father was "listening"...aka not listening but if you turned the radio off he got annoyed). Not a fond memory.

 

[matou]

Sorry to even suggest this, but could he be into necrophelia?

That would explain the interest in being a mortician. JMO

 

[CHERIE.T]

It is possible that he's a born psychopath, no?

I say yes,.,.,.only guessing of course but I DO believe certain
people are born natural born killers. I think there is a missing
link somewhere and people with the need to kill with no purpose
are born that way.
imo

 

[GrainneDhu]

So reverse engineering this for a second. Do most people think that the Cops weren't really onto him and he may not have been caught had his he not talked to his mother. Knowing what we know now how could they have found him? Profile seemed wrong but once they had the DNA on the rag in the Kelser Lake case, then try to find people who purchase the material in that area? Once they didn't find anyone there go to other means in which people can quickly put them out. Formaldehyde is one. You then check to see how has access to that and find that one of the people in the area was studying to be a mortician.

I dunno, it seems to me like car starter fluid would be a lot easier to find than formaldehyde. I am not LE or associated with this case but I wouldn't be surprised if the police were thinking the same way.

I don't think LE was onto him specifically. It seems pretty clear that his mother had some questions and it unravelled from there.

 

[Claudette]

Ive been reading about this for the past couple hours.
Im leaning towards LE NOT having a good idea this kid was the perp.
So to answer your question, his mom turning him in was what lead to
his arrest.
imo

MOO - they were expecting a middle aged man at first.

 

[Ransom]

But didn't I read or hear somewhere that the father's felony was in 2003?

IF you did could you post the link.

 

[VLISAE]

yes

the westy pd twitter

Westminster Police ‏@WestminsterPD
The nghbrhood around 10622 W. 102nd Ave will be closed to all but residents for the next couple of days. #jessicaridgeway #justiceforjessica
Expandhttps://twitter.com/WestminsterPD

Thank you.

This must be just awful. We have y'all on our minds in GA!

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I just thought of something...

If something like this ever happened in my house, I'd want to move. I wouldn't be able to ever have another peaceful night's sleep again. It would devastate me as a mother, absolutely kill me. I'd have to sell. However, if a murder takes place in a house, the real estate agent has to advise the prospective buyer of the murder - this is in some states, not all. I can't even imagine the amount of stress building up in this family right now. Jesus. My gosh.

I don't think that's true in Colorado, because JonBenet's house has been for sale for years, and there's ZERO mention of a murder happening in that house on any of the real estate pages. Maybe they mention it when you're about to sign the papers...