CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #20

[Boodles]

Some work pro bono as the publicity is compensation enough for them. jmo

And some private defense attorneys are appointed by the Court when it's a death penalty case, at least here in NC, ala the Jason Williford case. He had three (count 'em three!) attorneys which the People of NC had to pay for.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Some work pro bono as the publicity is compensation enough for them. jmo

Exactly. So why hasn't any lawyers signed up in this case? We don't know how high-profile the trial will be, but the case is getting a lot of media coverage at the moment.

 

[concentric]

I don't know that there was a tip either, but it would make some sense that she (ex-GF), was close enough to him that she COULD have recognized the cross and sent in a tip.

His mother may have recognized it as well..and noticed it missing. We don't know at this time, but SOMETHING got the ball rolling where he told his mother what he had done. JMO

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Just want to say that I am praying for both Jessica's momma and his momma that angels of the Lord be sent to comfort them.

 

[bkcrt]

*advertiser censored* is UBIQUITOUS on the net, totally, totally free.

Ok. I was just wondering because if it had reached the level of addiction and concern, was he paying for it? If so....was he using a parent credit card. And how/when was the *advertiser censored* addiction discovered. I think this kid has been broken for a lonnnng time. And people knew. JMO. Not trying to place blame, I just wish something could have been done to him before Jessica crossed his path.

 

[otto]

Legal questions here.....

Uh oh....It sure sounds like this is going to be fought tooth and nail. It sounds like he initially waived his right to an attorney at first and probably answered a lot of questions. I worry that now since he has legal reps, will the attorneys be able to have all his statements thrown out, and then what about all that was found based on his statements?

I know they have much more evidence now from the house, but if they are successful in getting all his statements thrown out, will that mean that all the evidence that has been uncovered at his home also be thrown out?

I don't know how all this works, but it seems I have heard about evidence being thrown out that was based on something that was declared inelgible because of the initial way it was obtained. Just wondering if anybody knows about this sort of thing.

I am really worried about this because of his age when he had to make that deciision about whether he would answer anything.

His mother called in the tip and most likely gave investigators permission to search the house ... so the searches may not have been based on the confession.

 

[courtneyb]

I am raking my brain here....... Excuse my ignorance :waitasec:,
what is PITA ?

Pain in the a$$.

 

[pinto]

Did he work? How did he pay for knife collection and video games? I guess mom and dad. Question for everyone: I'm not sure what qualifies as a knife collection...three, four, twenty? Is this normal behavior for a young man that age? Are they expensive? Wouldn't mom or dad question where money was going or that son was amassing a knife collection? Also....dumb question maybe, does internet *advertiser censored* require a credit card or can you just access it for free?

I have a nephew who came into the world somewhat obsessed with weapons. Medieval weapons, mostly. It is so unlike his parents, both artists, or his older brother. It was just there. THey fought it for a while, when he was a preschooler, but then when that didn't help, they fostered it in a healthy manner. Now he is in high school, and not even slightly violent (never has been), but has been taking blacksmith courses and making his own knives and other various blades -- and they are absolute works of art. He is an expert on the subject, and I've learned all about Damascus blades and the like ... it's really interesting. And just not scary. Obviously this AR kid is a bit scary, but a knife collection on its own doesn't mean squat.

 

[DylansMom34]

There are a few Colorado/Denver area defense lawyers who have jumped on these types of cases in the past. It will be interesting to see if any of these guys wind up representing the defendant in this case.

I'm starting to feel the same way about this defendant as the defendant in the Aurora shooting. I don't plan on addressing him by name any more, I personally plan on referring to him as "the defendant."

 

[otto]

Exactly. So why hasn't any lawyers signed up in this case? We don't know how high-profile the trial will be, but the case is getting a lot of media coverage at the moment.

Where's Jose Baez ... sounds like it's his type of law.

 

[pinto]

Has there been a connection made to the 2010 attempted abduction?

I"ve been wondering that.

 

[izzyblizzy]

Now I'm confused - is the same dad with shady background?? If so, what a recovery.


snipped by me. Yup, that is why I myself was in a little bit of shock! It kind of made me go "what????" when was looking at his house. (Could be entirely possible they were showing the wrong house, but it was not like there were other houses around, it was basically on its own large property). I was finding it hard to associate "low level repeat criminal offender" with the house they were showing.

Of course news isn't always accurate, and KDVR seems to be a bit more 'liberal' with its reporting than other stations around here (pretty sure that is where I saw it).

 

[palaminodee]

He may have assumed that, as a juvenile, he had all sorts of protections, so admitting guilt may have seemed like a good idea. Now that he is facing prosecution as an adult, everything has changed.

Given that he had all sorts of questions for the judge this morning, he may have thought that he was so clever that he could get away with murder if he was under the age of 18. His next act may be feigning some sort of mental illness.

I hope not, if he attends school and does well in class, I do not see how even a mental illness could be considered. If you go to school and perform well (which seems to be accurate), you know what you're doing and the consequence of that.
He knew exactly what he was doing.

of course my opinion

 

[Foxfire]

What is surprising to me is since he had some classes related to CSI, it seems he would have learned how hard it is to get away with something so horrible such as this. It just surprises me how he thought he could cover all his tracks, because I am sure he learned how hard that actually is from his classes. Something made him make the decision that he could get away with it, and maybe it was just a narcisitic attitude.

It is scary to me how close he actually got to getting away with it. In a strange way, I am thinking maybe he wanted to be the one to give himself up because he still wanted to claim that nobody would have figured it out, if he hadnt turned himself in. I found it a little odd how his mom may have called LE, but he himself turned himself in. Wondering if that is part of his narcisim in that he wanted to be the one to proviide the answers and not admit he was actually caught by anyone.

If not for the cross being dropped and his Mom being a great person to do the right thing, I am afraid he would have not been caught for a long time. This was a very dangerous person.

Good point, Hatfield. He would have had to be aware of Locard's exchange principle.. Dollar to a donut that he was monitoring/lerking on websleuths, imo..

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmond_Locard"]Edmond Locard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Dr. Edmond Locard (13 December 1877 – 4 May 1966) was a pioneer in forensic science who became known as the Sherlock Holmes of France. He formulated the basic principle of forensic science: "Every contact leaves a trace". This became known as Locard's exchange principle.

 

[otto]

I have a nephew who came into the world somewhat obsessed with weapons. Medieval weapons, mostly. It is so unlike his parents, both artists, or his older brother. It was just there. THey fought it for a while, when he was a preschooler, but then when that didn't help, they fostered it in a healthy manner. Now he is in high school, and not even slightly violent (never has been), but has been taking blacksmith courses and making his own knives and other various blades -- and they are absolute works of art. He is an expert on the subject, and I've learned all about Damascus blades and the like ... it's really interesting. And just not scary. Obviously this AR kid is a bit scary, but a knife collection on its own doesn't mean squat.

Maybe fencing is a good sport for him.

 

[concentric]

He may have assumed that, as a juvenile, he had all sorts of protections, so admitting guilt may have seemed like a good idea. Now that he is facing prosecution as an adult, everything has changed.

Given that he had all sorts of questions for the judge this morning, he may have thought that he was so clever that he could get away with murder if he was under the age of 18. His next act may be feigning some sort of mental illness.

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Something has to change about hiding juvenile records and the "protections" they are accorded. A family with several juveniles moved into our neighborhood.

From talking to people in the neighborhood, I estimated that about 20 or so crimes were committed due to these perps.

They just kept getting recycled through the juvenile system and returned.

 

[Hatfield]

His mother called in the tip and most likely gave investigators permission to search the house ... so the searches may not have been based on the confession.

Thank you...
That is a good point. Hopefully, LE worked directly with the parent regarding the permission to search, etc.

 

[Foxfire]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/296031/71/DA-Overwhelming-evidence-against-Jessica-suspect

Jefferson County District Attorney: Overwhelming evidence against Austin Reed Sigg - suspect in the Jessica Ridgeway case in Westminster

 

[TnVolsFan]

Ok. I was just wondering because if it had reached the level of addiction and concern, was he paying for it? If so....was he using a parent credit card. And how/when was the *advertiser censored* addiction discovered. I think this kid has been broken for a lonnnng time. And people knew. JMO. Not trying to place blame, I just wish something could have been done to him before Jessica crossed his path.

There is so much readily available for FREE that one wouldn't need a CC to get to that level- even as much as 'youtube' for *advertiser censored* sites... it's rampant and with no REAL safeguards in place-- I mean who can't lie about age etc.. not like they check-- it would be easy for him to find it, free.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Jefferson County District Attorney: Overwhelming evidence against Austin Reed Sigg - suspect in the Jessica Ridgeway case in Westminster

9:05 AM, Oct 25, 2012

Excerpt: "Multiple members of Jessica's family appeared in court wearing Jessica's favorite color - purple. Sigg's family was also present in the courtroom Thursday. As soon as Sigg was brought into the courtroom - sporting a goatee and a mohawk - one of his family members started to sob.

This was Sigg's first appearance in court. His public defenders kept referring to him as a "child" during the court proceedings. The judge did not read Sigg his charges, but he did explain his rights. Sigg asked questions in regards to his legal rights, which the judge allowed Sigg's attorneys to explain to him."

Read more:
http://www.9news.com/rss/article/29...ect?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

In his mugshot, his hair was not styled into a mohawk. The fact that he apparently took the time to style his hair before court leads me to believe he may be enjoying the attention. Could be wrong, but that's how it struck me.

 

[concentric]

I think you will find that a number of crimes have been committed by juveniles/adults wielding Samurai swords, and the like.