CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #7

[absentia]

the fact that FBI said "ultimately it could be a family member" makes me think they know it is a family member of someone in particular. the use of "ultimately" and "family" leads me to think they were speaking directly to someone.

I guess I'm very skeptical of the J/J's dad focus at the moment. I noticed the discrepancy in the basement but wasn't suspicious of it then or now. Remember this information came third hand. Humans make mistakes when relaying info. A small part of the story was heard over the scanner- I am sure Westminster Pd has spoken with the subject at length. They seems very competent and dedicated to this case. I think that the tone here is implying that he is at worst, involved and at best, complacent in Jessica's disappearance. I don't agree at this time.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

I'm beginning to believe it's going to come down to parents coming together within their neighborhood and privately hiring people to patrol on every block during the times of children going and coming from school. Volunteers would be nice, but I think that would be met with the mire of scheduling problems...and in hiring there could be background checks done. IDK the answer, but am damn sick of some sickko who has issues snuffing out the dreams and lives of our children...and taking the innocence away of the ones remaining. It's a shame we have to teach our children to be leary of their own kind!! How is this going to effect society as a whole 30 years from now...truly. ??

Off rant....I'm just so mad right now. Jessica looks so much like my little cousin when she was that age and I felt so responsible for her when we played or walked to the DQ.

OR demanding video surveillance from their HOA's. I still don't know what my HOA pays for...

 

[TreeClimbingGirl]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...s-found-in-jessica-ridgeway-search-not-intact

Westminster police: Remains found in Jessica Ridgeway search not 'intact', had been dismembered

this article has videos and images of the area and a map at the bottom

Yet again, despite the salacious headline, there is no quote from anyone in LE or even the proverbial "unnamed source" saying that she was dismembered.

I am getting quite sick and tired of the way this is being covered. It is like they are looking for the most graphic possible way to describe the condition of this poor child's body.

 

[absentia]

that and the fact they believe the abductor knew Jessica.

the fact that FBI said "ultimately it could be a family member" makes me think they know it is a family member of someone in particular. the use of "ultimately" and "family" leads me to think they were speaking directly to someone.

 

[Foxfire]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/294042/339/Jessica-Ridgeway-No-ID-on-found-body-until-later

Sources tell 9NEWS workers who typically pick up trash in that area found the body Wednesday.

 

[gitana1]

Zola..is your thought with the comparison pic that the perp may have thought he was leaving the backpack in the same spot J was kidnapped from?

I think it shows he is familiar with the area and seeks places that are similar.

Bath salts

This is all from the last thread, but bath salts would not cause or enable a person to abduct a child, commit a gruesome act, then transport the body and various pieces of evidence to different locations.

Here's a video of a guy on bath salts. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XSd4nIg630"]LIVE FOOTAGE: Zombie High On Bath Salts!!! - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeGdo30klkY"][/ame]
BTW, the guy who ate off that man's face in Florida? he was NOT on bath salts.

We have had child rapist murderers and serial killers forever. No need for a person to do some odd, new drug in order to abduct and murder an angel like Jessica.

I think it is either someone very angry or someone very cool and calculating.

I believe that the perpetrator is someone who lives within a 3 block radius of Jessica's house. If the perp is cool and calculating, he doesn't want to be seen moving anything the size of a 10 year old girl since there is so much surveillance going on in the neighbourhood.

I believe he placed the backpack where he did in a successful attempt to suck LE resources out of Jessica's neighbourhood for a short while. I think he either has a scanner or listens to the scanner online, so that he knows when it is probably safe for him to move.

He would not be the first perp to dismember a body as a coolly thought out ruse to avoid apprehension rather than out of uncontrollable rage.

Needless to say, a cool headed killer is usually more difficult to apprehend.

Agreed.

Finally, Zola, you kept posting photos in the last thread of the exact location Jessica was abducted from. Since LE don't appear to have this info, how do you?

 

[MsFacetious]

Note:

We still have no official word that the body found is even a child, much less Jessica OR that it was dismembered by a suspect.

However, thinking ahead if this is a dismembered child, these other cases are here for comparison.


Child dismemberment cases so far:


Adam Walsh - stranger

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/16/AR2008121603090.html



Leiby Kletzky - 8 years old abducted off the street walking to school , drugged and dismembered.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144572&highlight=lieby




Leslie Mahaffy - Strangers - a couple

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/leslie-mahaffy




Holly Jones - neighbor

http://www.hollyjones.ca/



Aliahna Lemmon - 9 years old - murdered and dismembered by the "babysitter."

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=476"]Aliahna Maroney Lemmon - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]



Jori Lirette - 7 years old with Special Needs - decapitated and dismembered by his "father."

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147129&highlight=jori



Zahra Baker - "Stepmother"

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=420"]Zahra Clare Baker - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

Forgive me, but I think that Mom doesn't know - she knows that Jessica called someone to confirm they were walking with her ( I suspect she made Jessica do that!) but because Jess was a very independent kid, when Jess said "Yes, I'm going to meet So and So" she didn't ask for details. Jess walked to school every day and she probably just trusted that it was ok.

In the scanner thread, the father reported to police that Jessica had phoned him that morning from a blocked number.

 

[Jules71]

Quoting self to say I found this...but not a lot of detail on the day/morning in question.
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/11/timeline-jessica-ridgeway-disappearance-and-investigation/

Friday, October 5 –
8:30 AM - Last seen by mom. Never arrived at school
10:00 AM School calls to report absence
Mom misses call from school
4:30 PM – Gets message
9:15 PM – Amber Alert Issued
Overnight search begins

And this is what I heard too but then I believe (per scanner) the call came in at approx 4:23. Also call made to J's house at 4:30 pm.

Curious what time Mom went to the park, school, and (possibly two times) to the friend's house?

 

[shefner]

Shef that is snnnnnneaky now... don't cha think????

Do you know that Rick James' song, "She's A Very Freaky Girl (The Kind You Don't Take Home to Mother)?"

My theme song is, "She's A Very Sneaky Girl (The Kind That Drives The Mods All Crazy)"

 

[nursebeeme]

In the scanner thread, the father reported to police that Jessica had phoned him that morning from a blocked number.

the rest of the transmission states that it was from her mother's cell phone

 

[TreeClimbingGirl]

Just a little factoid-Children are statistically much more likely to get injured or killed if they are driven to school by parents than if they walk there, even if they walk alone. The reason: Auto collisions.

Just some food for thought

 

[Geralyn]

Forgive me, but I think that Mom doesn't know - she knows that Jessica called someone to confirm they were walking with her ( I suspect she made Jessica do that!) but because Jess was a very independent kid, when Jess said "Yes, I'm going to meet So and So" she didn't ask for details. Jess walked to school every day and she probably just trusted that it was ok.

Nothing to forgive...I get the same impression. Mom says "I make sure she's gonna meet her friend cuz <sic> its snowing". My impression is that she "made sure"..by asking Jessica. JMO..based on J's dad saying it was Jessica who made the call, not Jessica's mother.

 

[absentia]

later determined to be SR's cell phone.

In the scanner thread, the father reported to police that Jessica had phoned him that morning from a blocked number.

 

[RedEagle]

Not new to Webslueths been lurking have not posted.. I have just been wondering why the backpack was located. Why the perp was so proud of their deed. The reports keep saying her backpack was found approx 6 miles from Jessica's house but, authorities are not disclosing what was in the backpack. A normal school backpack would have books, supplies, maybe a lunch, juice why not disclose the contents of her pack back? Was there something in it that let LE know that Jessica was deceased. I want to know What was in the her packback? just thinking outloud

 

[hollyblue]

I agree. But also, at least in my own experience, there are sooo many parents who are very laid back and not one bit worried about letting their 8 yr old daughters and 10 year old sons run around our neighborhood even when it is getting dark and their parents are not home. Makes me crazy!

I agree. There was a 5 yr old girl in my neighborhood that was allowed to roam freely. One evening I saw her bopping up the sidewalk after 9PM and nearly dark..all by her lonesome. What more can you do besides keep an eye on them. I just watched her to make sure she made it home ok.

 

[mck16]

IIRC there was also a teacher who said she saw her in the morning on the campus but not in class. I could be wrong...

Yes, you are correct. Also a child said they saw her talking to a teacher's aide. Can they all be wrong? hmm!!

 

[Foxfire]

"From a Google Search of Jessica Ridgeway: About 36,600,000 results (0.24 seconds)"


http://www.9news.com/news/article/2...-old-Jessica-Ridgeway-case-could-strike-again

FBI profiler says suspect in missing 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway case could strike again
The FBI assumes the person they're looking for is a male, as statistics show that is most likely the case.

"It could be your boss; it could be your friend, and ultimately it could be your family member," Van Zandt said.

Investigators have received more than 1,200 tips so far.

The FBI knows from experience, the best leads will likely come from people at home who have a hunch and make the call.

"We suspect that somebody in the community knows this individual," Denver FBI spokesman Dave Joly said.

Joly says you need to focus, not on how this person looks, but how they act.

"Any kind if unusual behavior between last Friday and today," Joly said.

That behavior could include missing work and appointments, leaving town, changes in alcohol and drug use, or even changes in appearance.

* "Somebody who is very engaged in the media coverage of the investigation and maybe they're a little annoyed by all the coverage," Joly said.

 

[cluciano63]

Did Jessica walk at least part way alone every day, or just on this day?
That would be a big question as far as if she was a special target, or a child who just happened to be alone that morning.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm willing to bet this mans house and car have been thoroughly searched.

The local police have done a stellar job with this case and I can't imagine that this fell through their cracks. If there was a reason to suspect this gentleman, they would be on him.

I'm sure LE is all over whoever is on their suspect list.