CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #17 *ARREST*

[PommyMommy]

He looks dejected, like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Good.

Yes. I like it and I'm not sorry.
MOO

 

[SandyQLS]

Well if he didn't say anything he must not be too concerned about what happens to his daughter!

He may have chosen to to only speak in writing presenting documents prepared by his lawyer, the ones he carried into court.

 

[Jupiter05]

If this does come down to full custody of the baby as a motive, I wonder if it would have anything to do with PF's dad leaving when he was a child. It would be a very inappropriate and extreme action, but he could have some major issues from the experience.

 

[SandyQLS]

Kind of surprised they brought him in through the main court entrance and not through the

The deputies have on warm coats and boots.

 

[MsBetsy]

And that would be something the judge would inquire into. what amount of time has the child spent with these individuals. If the judge is satisfied that the child has spent time with them and is comfortable with them, then that would be the most likely and logical placement. Given the brevity of the hearing I am wondering if custody was even contested.

That's what I'm thinking, that it was recommended that Kelseys parents have custody and no-one contested it. Especially if it's true that Frazee didn't utter a word. Imo

 

[Jupiter05]

He may have chosen to to only speak in writing presenting documents prepared by his lawyer, the ones he carried into court.

Speaking to the judge with respect would have made him look like a human being. He is not doing himself any favors!

 

[bestill]

DM said even when addressed in court he refused to speak.

Wonder what the Judge thought of that? I think he's scared to death, imo - I don't think it's arrogance.

It almost looks like burns versus, say, if you hit the back of your neck or someone grabbed your neck. Unsure.

I saw that too and wondered. Would a taser do something like that? Wonder when it happened.

 

[Gardener1850]

Wow, um what could make those??

Stun gun?

 

[Mimi in London]

Is this continued silence the sign of things to come, I wonder? The only means of control he can still wield. Even if it doesn’t win him any popularity contests.
IMO

Eta spelling correction

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

These are the abrasions I’m talking about...

Holy cow. I wonder if he tried hanging himself.

 

[BRRI]

Wow, um what could make those??

Being grabbed at the back of the neck maybe. If they are injuries

 

[Gardener1850]

Yup. He’s just big mad that he was outsmarted.

I hope he is not suicidal. He needs to tell where Kelsey is first!!!
MOO.

 

[heartgoesout]

I guess PF's mom being there is showing she supports him.

 

[Charlot123]

I think you may be right and in time we may have some evidence of this. Since Kelsey was described as sweet, shy, and reserved, I wonder if PF thought she would be easy to control and manipulate when they first met.
It must not have taken him long to realize this was not the case. I don't think it took Kelsey very long to figure out what he was truly like either. There must be a reason why they never lived together. I wonder if she ever sensed she might be in danger?

I think KB had very different career and future. She was not tied up to the farming life. In romantic novels, beauties fell for poor cowboys, but in a real life, it is hard to constantly play handsome and noble Maurice Gerald from “The headless hunter”. The first time EspeciBut then, the person has to constantly work on his handsome and noble image, and the first time a lady notices you are not noble, all the expectations of the future go out of the window.

 

[sun16]

Being grabbed at the back of the neck maybe. If they are injuries

That’s what I’m thinking.

 

[MsBetsy]

Really. I think it was. I asked a friend in the legal profession, the answer I got was the docket would have CB not KB. KB is missing (sadly) so they would not schedule her for court. But, this is MOO

That's what one would assume, but maybe she is listed because she is still considered the parent and it is not confirmed she is dead. But our attorneys have stated that it was filed as a result of the arrest. I don't know. Maybe someone will explain. Are you sure her mom's name isn't on the document?

 

[SandyQLS]

Really. I think it was. I asked a friend in the legal profession, the answer I got was the docket would have CB not KB. KB is missing (sadly) so they would not schedule her for court. But, this is MOO

KB was removed from the original docket. PF remained on the docket with also County Dept. Of Social Services and The People of the State of Colorado. CB is not a party.

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Number: 26
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Colorado Judicial Branch - Court Docket Search

Your friend ?

 

[MassGuy]

I guess PF's mom being there is showing she supports him.

No surprise there. She has supported him his entire life.

 

[Jupiter05]

Holy cow. I wonder if he tried hanging himself.

Maybe he had to be restrained.

 

[PommyMommy]

@PrairieWind, what is typical as far the length of time it takes for the court to reach a decision in an emergency custody situation? Just wondering if it will be today or...?
(tapping foot)