CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #4

[Jethro4WS]

I mean.. my gut says it has to be something like this. What else would make it "complex"?

What it generally means is that they do not have enough evidence at this time where a prosecutor would go anywhere near a court with it. Hence why the Police Chief said that they would like Patrick to sit down with their investigators. What the Police Chief left out of that is that he would like Patrick to sit down with their investigators without his attorney present. If they need him to talk himself into being charged they don't have much to work with at this time.

 

[gngr~snap]

Would like to talk to PF about travel b/w Thanksgiving Day + present.

Bam!
Rjey usually dontd ask questions that they don't already have the answers to.
Praying for her family and her daughter! I wish she was with anyone but him!
Moo

 

[chi123]

Dang, just this information, 'underground utilities' is bad, IMO. This type of work requires equipment for digging ditches and holes in order to install utilities. This isn't good.

Add this to the fact that there was 10 full days before LE started looking..she could be anywhere.

 

[Razz]

Ok, WS elders, riddle me this. Has there been a case with a warrant resulting in a search and seizure of property and a press conference that did not result in an arrest? (US only)

Yes, the older gentleman down the road from Molly Tibbits. The pig farmer?

 

[lonetraveler]

ok.
Facts:
PF and KB had a child together.
PF and KB were engaged.
PF and KB lived in separate homes and not together.
PF and KB were together on Thanksgiving day the day KB went missing.
KB’s phone sent a text on 11/25 to her work saying she would be out on leave for a week.
KB’s mom reported her missing on 12/2.
Now after reading those facts, there are holes of time.
After reading those facts it seems PF would sit down with all LE and cooperate fully.
In MOO something is really off with PF.

I'm curious, has it been confirmed yet if KB was suppose to eat with PF and baby for Thanksgiving?

 

[Jcbjlt]

PF's whereabouts on Nov 23-25 are key to me. Was he in Teller County? Or did he take a trip to Idaho?

And leave his phone at home, while taking hers and then texting himself.
His family should be interviewed. Why no lie detectors or interviews? The police seem very slow to investigate.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, the older gentleman down the road from Molly Tibbits. The pig farmer?

He consented, I don’t think there was ever a warrant served there.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I'm curious, has it been confirmed yet if KB was suppose to eat with PF and baby for Thanksgiving?

No

 

[alucardsdream]

I'm curious, has it been confirmed yet if KB was suppose to eat with PF and baby for Thanksgiving?

At this point, I don't know if we'll ever know for sure. Only PF and KB know for certain...one won't talk and one can't talk, at least at the moment.

 

[Jcbjlt]

I wonder if the family is well known and respected hence the slow response from the police. I live in a small town and this kind of behavior happens frequently even in this day and age.

 

[AmatuerDetective]

Why wouldn't they immediately want to question him? It's been 2 weeks now. Why is this moving so slowly? So many questions...I can see the complexity!

Well we can assume they did want to question him two weeks ago. He lawyered up and refused to answer their questions. The question is why they are telling the public this 2 weeks after it happened. That is no small detail.

 

[worreewart]

Dang, just this information, 'underground utilities' is bad, IMO. This type of work requires equipment for digging ditches and holes in order to install utilities. This isn't good.

Construction Frazees are not related to PF

 

[gngr~snap]

They also won’t comment on who owns the red truck

The one covered in dirt, ironically!
Moo

 

[PommyMommy]

It sure looks like the truck he drove to his lawyers.

It is.
Video: The search grows for missing Colorado mom

 

[liltexans]

Ok, WS elders, riddle me this. Has there been a case with a warrant resulting in a search and seizure of property and a press conference that did not result in an arrest? (US only)

Oh yes. Lots of them. Hailey Dunn's case is one of many. Later this month will mark 8 years since Hailey's disappearance. She was found a few years later, murdered. Still no arrests.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

He consented, I don’t think there was ever a warrant served there.

Agreed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...second-time-about-missing-mollie-tibbetts.amp

 

[kidetect22]

Ok- I’m finally caught up and really just astonished !!! I’m going to really be blunt here...but let’s say PF did make KB disappear ... how can anyone.. anyone guarantee he wouldn’t do that to the little girl? This man is not even sitting down with LE and answering simple questions to help this investigation at all!!! He clearly is cocky and arrogant and believes he is going to get away with something. Before we know it the little girl will be missing too. I pray hard it won’t happen, but I’m not holding my breath !!!

 

[Timekeeper65]

MassGuy - “He should be nervous, and that’s what they want”.

I totally agree. IMO if innocent why not clear the air? Answer questions?

 

[PommyMommy]

I wonder if LE has spoken to PF mother ?

Welcome, djterry.

 

[cody22]

Well we can assume they did want to question him two weeks ago. He lawyered up and refused to answer their questions. The question is why they are telling the public this 2 weeks after it happened. That is no small detail.

Because the case went "National" and blew up in their face ?