gliving
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That's quite an article. People are finally talking.
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Yes.Everyone said similar about Chris Watts too.
Why would an unknown assailant text her work and the fiance?
And past experience of the missing shows that it's human nature for people to want to help. If you are camera shy, friends come forward to act as your spokesperson, help distribute flyers, get the ball rolling on your behalf if you will. Unlike KB, PF is a local guy with much family around, and the silence from his camp is deafening. MOOHere’s the thing.
If PF is completely innocent here, and there is no nefarious explanation as to what happened to Kelsey, then he committed one of the worst public relations blunders that anyone in his position has ever committed.
Fine, he didn’t report her missing, all he has to do is explain why.
Fine, he doesn’t feel comfortable making a public plea for her safe return, get someone else to do it for you.
Is it that hard to make a Facebook post, send a Tweet, or distribute fliers for the missing mother of your child?
Those were the two biggest sins on his part.
That’s not normal, and it opens yourself up to tremendous suspicion.
Disaster!
Yes, driving through Gooding to reach Eastern Wa is possible, just don't think it's plausible.
Oh right - so sorry. I was aware of the ping that is controversial but had forgotten the text to her employer... THANKS!But...mountain lions don't know how to text. This wouldn't explain the texts and ID ping on 11/25.
Oh! Here's a good new article:
WOODLAND PARK – Kelsey Berreth’s decision to move to Colorado in 2016 was motivated by love, according to a family member.
Ed Stanfill, Berreth’s uncle, spoke with News 5’s Sam Kraemer Monday, saying she wanted to get closer to then-boyfriend Patrick Frazee. After she moved, Stanfill said she accepted a job at Doss Aviation.
Berreth, who had attended flight school and worked as an instructor in Washington, got to know Frazee some time before moving to Colorado in 2016. Stanfill said he does not know how the couple met, saying, “She’s a pilot. She knows a lot of people.”
Despite working in Pueblo, Stanfill said his niece chose to live in Woodland Park to be closer to Frazee. She did not live with Frazee, he said, because the now-fiancé also lives with his mother.
A handful of law enforcement agencies just completed a search of the property Frazee lives at in Florrisant on Sunday. Authorities have not released any information on what evidence was collected.
Family: Kelsey Berreth moved to Colorado to be closer to Frazee
Wow! This paints a picture of PF, and it ain’t pretty.EXCLUSIVE: Fiancé of missing Colorado mom is a 'shy old-fashioned cowboy' who would NEVER hurt her, claim friends after cops end search of 30-acre ranch where he lives with his mother
Neighbors described fiancé of missing Colorado woman as 'quiet' and 'good' | Daily Mail Online
I think this has been touched on before, but for my own clarification I'm going to ask again. Is there any possible way a plane can take off for a destination without logging a flight plan? Is there any way someone could fudge on a flight plan say if they had help from the ground *air traffic control*? I know zero about how this works but common sense tells me planes have to be guided through the air so they don't crash into one another. I'm just wondering if there is some elaborate (or simple) way someone could get around this?
I just posted this too. Sorry I should’ve looked first!BBM
Nice work, @gliving. That article is super informative.
I sure wish some of those "lots of people" that Kelsey knows would speak out so we can get a fuller picture of her character and personality, as we were fortunate to have with Shanann.
We certainly can't blame Kelsey for not wanting to live with her MIL... But the question remains why PF wouldn't want to move in with his baby and his gal instead of his mom at 32 years old.
If he had cattle to tend to, he would really need to live close to them. KB didn't want to live there with the mother (understandable). So perhaps she bought the home in WP and they were trying to save up money so they could buy their own place close to his cattle. That would seem to make perfect sense. In the article, KB's elderly neighbor said she thought PF lived with KB. So I take that to mean he was at the house a lot.BBM
Nice work, @gliving. That article is super informative.
I sure wish some of those "lots of people" that Kelsey knows would speak out so we can get a fuller picture of her character and personality, as we were fortunate to have with Shanann.
We certainly can't blame Kelsey for not wanting to live with her MIL... But the question remains why PF wouldn't want to move in with his baby and his gal instead of his mom at 32 years old.
Only if the mountain lion has a car to get to Idaho and knows how to text.
I very much doubt that child was planned.
Holy Moly! I knew it wouldn’t be long until folks started to talk. Mean to animals, hmmm, hmmm,hmmm.Wow! This paints a picture of PF, and it ain’t pretty.
“She said: 'It's a characteristic that was ongoing for years. Anytime he was at a rope and his horse didn't act right, he'd rip on his face, kick him. In the community, we were all at ropings and stuff, but if the horse doesn't do exactly what it's supposed to do you don't just beat them.'
Recalling a rodeo in nearby town Cripple Creek several years ago, she described Frazee losing his cool with his horse.
She said: 'One time we were at a rodeo in Cripple Creek and he got mad because his horse didn't do good and somebody didn't heel just right to help him get in the money and he got so mad he left out of Cripple Creek Rodeo, flipped his horse trailer with his horse in it and almost killed that horse.”
Technology changes too fast for me: I too read that "airplane mode" turns off the "radio" preventing signal to towers/pings, only to next read that using Bluetooth or Wifi inflight services (in airplane mode) do not disable all radio! MOOPer Google "Airplane mode is a setting on cell phones, smartphones and other mobile devices that prevents the device from sending or receiving calls and text messages. ... On an iPhone, airplane mode disables connectivity for cellular voice and data, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS and location-based services."
I did not realize the airplane mode cut off everything. So perhaps it was off or indeed in airplane mode except for that one time that it pinged?