CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58

[tmar]

I’m not sure that’s a bad thing. He’s cold and calculating, with no compassion. His reaction gave the jury a preview of that today — they will see it again.

JMO

Again, and again.
All throughout the trial.
Let us see, if the two SFs are the same.

 

[TxMother67]

Well, to be honest, I think it's the opposite.

*Kelsey came from and exudes class and grace. Hard working, educated, was an instructor herself. Independent. Came from a religious upbringing.
*They couldn't hold a candle to her and they knew it......
*They couldn't compete. Pure and simple. .....

******They were beneath Kelsey****.

BBM SBM

Bingo! And this fueled KK as well!

 

[acutename]

My read on this, "KB was murdered somewhere other than the townhome" storyline.

Another weak and desperate ploy by the defense.

KK is never captured on the neighbor's surveillance camera.

But PF was....numerous times.
On the 22nd.
AFTER the time he told LE he last saw KB.
After which, his and KB's cell phones start traveling together for days.

The defense needs to shift the murder location, because the prosecution has put PF squarely at that location, on the date that KB was last seen, AFTER the time she was last seen, WITH KB's phone.

He's. Toast.

JMO.

how does he ever explain having her phone and also not telling her family that he has it?

 

[Snowsnake]

BBM:

I want Sheila in handcuffs.

I think it is coming.

 

[susiQ]

Same here. I feel like she had to know what PF was planning. I’ve always wondered if she participated. I also wonder if they ruled out anyone in regards to the unknown female DNA...

I could never understand that if "Mrs. Bates'" believed her son, "Norman" was innocent, why on earth would she need to plead the 5th, unless SHE did it

 

[SuperTmo]

That entire Frazee pack is backwards garbage.

I refuse, simply refuse, to treat them as "victims" after what we learned today re: how badly they spoke about AND treated KB.

I mean, I never regarded them as victims before today, but this totally clinches it.

They ill-treated and bad-mouthed KB while she was alive.

And then one of them apparently came right on here to the thread to spread lies after KB had been murdered by PF, too, from what I understand.

They're all trash.

JMO.

I hope they never ever EVER get the privilege of laying their eyes on Kelsey’s Baby K again. Ever. None of them. They do not deserve to spend any time with her.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I was there today.

I'll update later.

Think most of the important stuff the media got out already.

On a funny note.
Was there someone live tweeting or something? Towards the end a cop got up and was walking around with a note that said "are you blogging?" Asking a bunch of people.

....and I was asked.

I wanted to respond: yes telepathicly. Seeing as I maybe had my phone out 5 mins out of the 3 hours.

Sells is worried about people being disruptive.... When that was the most disruptive part of the day.

Yay, real boots on the ground....cool. Tell me if you will, does PF come across as obtuse in person as he does in the times I've seen him on TV?

 

[GordianKnot]

One of the tweets earlier said she was there for opening remarks then escorted out.

Was she escorted out in handcuffs, by any chance?

 

[tmar]

To sum up: It was the first of many bad days for the defense.

These bad days, will be filled with loads of incidents when the Defence are squirming, as to what is being released.
Bring it on.

 

[Black eyed pea]

⁠Mother-in-law of murdered Osceola woman facing charges⁠⁦‪clickorlando.com‬⁩

I just saw this story and wanted to share for everyone who is hoping to see SF in handcuffs because this story is eerily similar.

 

[GordianKnot]

I was there today.

I'll update later.

Think most of the important stuff the media got out already.

On a funny note.
Was there someone live tweeting or something? Towards the end a cop got up and was walking around with a note that said "are you blogging?" Asking a bunch of people.

....and I was asked.

I wanted to respond: yes telepathicly. Seeing as I maybe had my phone out 5 mins out of the 3 hours.

Sells is worried about people being disruptive.... When that was the most disruptive part of the day.

BBM:

Thank you for being there!

Eagerly looking forward to your debrief!

 

[katydid23]

Ok, bear with me, this is my first trial on WS.

If the defense is going with KK as the killer wouldn’t they need to now put PF on the stand to help with that defense?

Not necessarily. I just saw this exact same defense tried in the Chase Merritt trial. And they didnt put him on the stand.

They tried to make a coworker of the victim the 'real' killer. Problem was, like in this case, the timeline didnt fit. Their alternative suspect was reportedly in Hawaii. The defense spent a lot of time and resources trying to destroy that alibi. And trying to prove that the detectives had blinders on, and only went after Chase Merritt, and unfairly.

I bet the defense tries that tactic here too. Which is fine because Merritt is awaiting sentencing on his GUILTY verdict.

 

[Ccging]

God bless CB, as a mother myself I can’t imagine. My whole heart aches for her. And she has to tell more on Monday....

Gut. Wrenching.

#justiceforkelsey

 

[acutename]

I know. I want clarity on this theory/strategy/nonsense.

How the hell does that work?

and KK cleaned the condo? why if it was not PF's murder scene? too weird.

 

[Kapua]

It makes sense to me that she would say, "At the end of the year the baby and I are out of here. I'll be seeing my attorney to work out child support and visitation."

Maybe we'll hear testimony from an attorney with whom she discussed this.

I disagree. I don't think she was planning to move. She bought a condo there and she loved her job. To me, that indicates that she was committed to staying. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

Posted: Nov 1, 2019 / 11:04 AM MDT / Updated: Nov 1, 2019 / 07:34 PM MDT
Jury seated, opening statements heard in Patrick Frazee trial
[...]

She said the move caused conflict, however, because Frazee continued to live with his mother in Florissant, and Berreth, with no job, had to get her own apartment.

Frazee and Berreth continued to live apart. They had a daughter together in 2017, but prosecutors described a stressful, deteriorating relationship, saying Frazee manipulated people to believe his fiance was a negligent and abusive parent and partner.

They say Kenney, in particular, fell victim to that manipulation, detailing how Frazee lied about Berreth’s abuse to convince Kenney to help him kill her. Prosecutors say he even went so far as to threaten Kenney’s daughter if she didn’t comply.

But, Viehman said, Kenney couldn’t do it.

[...]

In the days after Berreth was reported missing, prosecutors say Frazee made 46 phone calls to Kenney, and none to his fiance.

[...]

...Berreth moved to Colorado in 2016, after Frazee said he wanted to marry her.

[...]

Cheryl Berreth also told the court the Frazee family wasn’t accepting of Berreth when she arrived. In fact, Frazee’s mother, Sheila, kicked her out after finding out she was pregnant, thinking Berreth hid her pregnancy on purpose.

Cheryl Berreth said her daughter moved to several different places in Colorado, but continued trying to make the relationship with Frazee work.

[...]

Cheryl Berreth broke into tears recalling the last time she spoke to her daughter...

Members of the Berreth family, including Kelsey’s brother, Clint, held back tears. There was no reaction from Frazee during that testimony.

[...]

 

[katydid23]

Whatever floats your boat! If the prosecution team had doubt and worry, they'd never be able to do the job they do. Since no witness has taken the stand yet, it's really a wait 'n see.

When a prosecution team has no doubts, no worries, it can end up in a train wreck of a verdict. I've seen it happen. Once in Florida a few years ago, for example.

 

[Warwick7]

Here are my notes for the week.

PF Trial
Week 1, Oct. 28 - Nov. 1

October 28, 2019 - Monday

• Jury selection set to begin at 8:30 a.m., is expected to last for much of this week with opening statements expected either Friday or Nov. 4.
• Court officials say 125 potential jurors are expected to arrive this morning, out of 1,750 total summons. To put that into context, the population of Teller County is 24,646.
• Twelve people will be picked for the jury, in addition to four alternate jurors.
• The court clerk issued 1,750 summonses to people living in Teller County for this case. About 125 were expected to appear today. And of that total, 85 appeared in court today for questioning as part of the jury selection process.
• So far, slightly more than 30 people have been dismissed. It will be a long process for attorneys on both sides to whittle the overall number down to 12 jurors and 4 alternates. Jury selection is expected to continue to Friday, with opening statements slated for Friday afternoon.
• 125 people are expected to report each morning until the jury is seated.
• 16 jurors are expected to be selected by Friday.
• PF was in court today for jury selection. Dressed in a green button-up and tan slacks, a contrast from his inmate jumpsuit and bullet proof vest. He looked on and repeatedly took notes during the morning's proceedings.
• Judge Sells addressed the national attention the PF case has gotten to potential jurors. He asked them to put opinions aside, listen to evidence and make a decision.
• Judge Scott Sells believes the trial will last three weeks and hopes to wrap it up by November 22. It could extend into the week of Thanksgiving.
• Potential jurors were given a witness list and asked to mark who they knew. Given Teller County’s size, many of the jurors knew at least one witness.

October 29, 2019 - Tuesday

• Today, about 100 new potential jurors came through. A few dozen dismissed already this AM, the rest will answer questions from attorneys this afternoon.
• Judge said the normal staff is 9 people + 2 judges. Court brought in help from other counties around the state to help manage those 1750 potential jurors this week.
• Handling all of these would-be jurors has required the Teller County Courthouse to call in reinforcements. Some of these volunteers had a relatively short drive from neighboring El Paso County, but others came all the way from Adams County — a roughly 2.5 hour drive through sometimes windy mountain roads in wintry conditions.
• The three prosecutors — including Fourth Judicial District Attorney Dan May — are seated directly in front of Judge Scott Sells. A clerk seated in front of the judge is tasked with writing what was said during the proceedings verbatim, which could amount to up to 90,000 words a day.
• PF has not visibly shown emotions during this part of the proceeding, though he has intently watched all of the questioning.
• All of the people who have been asked to return to final selection have been told to return to the courthouse by 8:15 a.m. on Friday, with a hope 12 jurors and four alternates can be seated that day.
• The court plans to call back 90 jurors on Friday. Thirty five people were told to return on Monday, and jury selection is scheduled for until Thursday.

October 30, 2019 -Wednesday

• The trial of a Florissant man charged in the murder of his fiancé is expected to begin Friday.
• A group of 91 people was chosen to participate in group voir dire. Voir dire is the process of questioning jurors from a larger pool to seat a jury.
• No hearings are scheduled for Thursday. Friday morning, the court plans to begin group jury selection and anticipate that being complete to begin the trial Friday afternoon.
• Each side would get an hour for an opening statements. Courtroom discussions show the state plans to call KB’s mom and CB, Kelsey's mother and brother respectively, to the witness stand Friday, according to NBC News.
• People v. Frazee: Individual jury selection is complete. Group jury selection begins Friday morning. Opening statements anticipated Friday afternoon.

October 31, 2019 - Thursday

• No hearings scheduled

November 1, 2019 - Friday

• The 90 potential jurors called Friday came from many walks of life: nurses, retirees, contractors, a mortician, a pilot, a school bus driver. They dressed in heels and work boots, suits and sweatshirts, and packed the old, wood-paneled courtroom, decorated with the same ornate radiators and wooden chairs as it had when it was built in 1904.
• PF listened carefully and consulted with his attorneys as they decided whom to kick. He’s dressed in a blue striped Western-style shirt with pearl buttons, open at collar with T-shirt showing. Definitely a “cowboy at the wedding” vibe.
• PF’s mother and sister plus a few friends are in the courtroom.
• A jury was sworn in on Friday afternoon, for the PF’s trial at the Teller County Courthouse in Cripple Creek.
• 16 people were seated — 12 jurors and four alternates. Of the 12 jurors, seven are women and five are men. Of the alternates, two are men and two are women.
• Opening statements will begin at 2 p.m.
• Opening statements in PF’s trial: "It looks good from the outside. It looks like it's all there. But when you really start hearing the evidence and hearing the facts, you are going to realize deep foundational issues with this case," the defense told the jury.
• After the District Attorney restated the case, the defense denied PF had anything to do with KB’s murder, comparing the case to a house lacking proper foundation.
• Waiting for the first witness in the PF trial after an hour of openings. Defense says KK killed KB somewhere besides in her condo. Prosecution says cellphone trail and Lee's testimony proves PF killed her and KK only helped.
• Prosecutor Jennifer Viehman started strong by outlining a complicated relationship between PF and KB, who never lived together despite having a child together and living in the same county. She claims PF consistently manipulated those around him by painting a picture of KB being a bad mom, alcoholic, and abusive to their infant daughter [Baby K].
• Prosecutors focuses their opening statement on PF’s manipulative behavior, especially toward KK. “This face, this man, is a murderer.” Jennifer Viehman took a big swing out of the gates with emotion, using surveillance stills to show PF around KB’s home, contradicting his story to police.
• As part of opening statements, Viehman showed photos of the blood spots left behind by KK. They are there, but as the defense points out, they are small. Other photos show clear streaks or wipe marks on the couch & TV in KB’s home.
• State points out between 11/25-12/4, PF called KK 46 times. He never tried KB.
• What they did not tell you is that KK did not go to police voluntarily. They had to track her down,” defense attorney Ashley Porter says. She pointed out KK’s lies to the FBI when she denies even knowing KB. Porter cites the second time the FBI meets KK at her home she has hired an attorney. “Before she says anything about this case, she cuts a deal, where she could spend zero days in jail,” Porter says.
• Attorneys for PF argue he has no motive, no body has been recovered, and investigators have not recovered an alleged murder weapon. However, KK has admitted to bringing a full body protective suit, bleach, cleaning supplies, and borrowing her friend’s car to drive to Woodland Park to clean up the bloody scene at the townhome. Porter points out that despite the horrific scene KK describes, there are only tiny spots of blood found by investigators.
• Defense countered in saying the entire story told by the prosecution is polished & edited. Ashley Porter compared it to house shopping online. It may look nice from afar, but it has foundational issues. She points to KK as the biggest issue.
• CB breaks down on the stand as she describes the last time she spoke with KB. PF met her eyes with no emotion when she pointed him out in court. Jury listens intently, takes notes.
• Cell phone records prove PF was alone during killing, and KK was in Idaho, prosecutor says. PF took KB’s phone and tried to make it seem like she fled Colorado.
• State called CB to the stand as the first witness, which was emotional for her.
• Soft-spoken and matter of fact, CB choked up just once – describing text message she sent to PF on day authorities say daughter was killed. “I said something along the lines of ‘Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you’re feeling better.' “He said, 'Happy thanksgiving to you, too,'” CB said, swallowing hard and dabbing at eyes with a tissue.
• CB told jury how she went to investigate KB’s Woodland Park condo after days went by w/o answer from her.
• Cinnamon rolls were uncovered on table, "hard as rocks," CB said. Also left out was bread KB bought for Thanksgiving dessert dip. Her luggage was still there. “When the sun was shining it looked like everything had been wiped.”
• CB describes her daughter's relationship with the F family as never being good, with the family viewing KB as a "hooker" because she would arrive at the family property late at night due to her work hours.
• According KB’s mother, the relationship worsened after KB told the family about her pregnancy in the summer of 2017. She explained how her daughter was thrown out of the house and forced to move in with a coworker. Fast forward a year later when PF and KB’s daughter had just turned one year old, and CB describes her daughter visiting a clinic in California to help address mineral deficiency. Soon after, KB started working less to spend more time with her child. KB and PF continued to live separately.
• KB’s mom was on the stand for about an hour and will return on Monday.

I have seen tweets today too that state cin rolls were on the table not the stove. Maybe it matters maybe it doesn't.

 

[SuperTmo]

I have to admit that I'm having a hard time understanding the F's apparent total aversion/opposition to KB, but yet they/he wanted the baby. If PF didn't want to pay support and have partial custody, as has been theorized/speculated, by eliminating KB now he's got full custody and full financial responsibility,unless someone else in his family contributes financially and with child-rearing. I guess it could be some kind of a bloodline/breeding thing, idk.

OTOH, the more we learn about them, the more twisted they seem, so it won't make sense.

Edited for spelling and clarity.

Do we know if Kelsey had life insurance that he perhaps assumed he would get control of if he had custody of the baby?

Either way, these people are victims in their own minds. They could tell sob stories about how Kelsey “abandoned” the baby or killed herself and left poor PF with all the parenting responsibilities. The benefit for PF was a cute little baby he could use as his prop for getting dates. Some women dig single men with babies... even ugly ones like PF. That mustache he had in the family photo with Kelsey and the baby = so gross.

 

[UKslueth2018]

I hope they never ever EVER get the privilege of laying their eyes on Kelsey’s Baby K again. Ever. None of them. They do not deserve to spend any time with her.

Couldn’t agree more. Kicking her out when pregnant. WTF??