CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #1

[FindHG]

Sorry if my morning posts are disjointed. Just trying to get my thoughts out there quickly while getting everyone up and going, and get myself ready for work.
If I remember the original timeline correctly there was a chunk of the daytime with now shattered windows. Maybe it's older students? Those only in school for a few afternoon classes?

Yes, I thought it may have been HS seniors, but I have no real reason to know that is even close or just a bad tangent, which seems completely possible too.

 

[FindHG]

Someone mentioned glass marbles. What about those glass " rocks" they make to fill vases with? The sort of half round ones? They are a bit larger than a typical marble, and have a flat side. They might be easier to shoot, and if they break at all they might be overlooked among the broken glass. Idk, I'm just thinking and rambling. Lol

ETA: jumping off FHG's post....maybe 2-3 people? Maybe the two times people actually got shot it was more of a lone wolf out of the group? The one driving the whole thing, the one who is over the top? I'm assuming they two people that were hit were shot with an actual gun, with actual bullets. That makes me think only one of the players used a real gun. Aback, idk if I'm making any sense now. Multitasking! Lol

Sorry to take you to lala land, SugarQueen. I half blame magz, she does this to me every time (in a good way)! Well, this time I did see clear glass marbles that are as small, if not smaller than paintballs, perfectly round, sitting in a zip lock bag. Somebody may have lost their marbles along the way more than we have here on WS, you're right.

 

[SugarQueen]

Hubby and I own an auto repair shop. I may just have to try out the ninja rock thing. Maybe I'll get lucky and he will have a tune up on today's schedule.
We may be sooo completely wrong here but down the rabbit hole we go! Lol

 

[FindHG]

This area in the middle of a number of the incidents seems interesting to me. There's a pipeline near one of them, and there was an industrial area near where the victim was found murdered.

 

[SugarQueen]

I have DS sitting here with matchbox cars trying out different scenarios! Lol. Either the driver is also a / the shooter or it seems there has to be a passenger/ shooter in the back seat behind the driver. ( ASSUMING no one is leaning over the driver/ steering wheel to shoot. ) The only way we can work out a passenger window being shot out is if the shooter car and victim car are driving in the same direction, shooter car in right lane, shooter has to be driver or sitting behind driver. Let me simplify that ....front seat passenger in shooter car won't be on passenger side of victim car, no matter what direction the cars are going. ( good grief, I hope that makes sense. )

 

[Forager]

No freaking way these are coincidences. Jmo

I saw one article where it blamed the shatterings on "road debris"...looking for it

Car windows are very strong. They can take a very hard hit from a heavy object and not break if the force is distributed even a little. To shatter them, a lot of force must be concentrated at a fine point thru a very hard material. Gravel kicked up by tires hitting a fast moving front wind shield bounces off, rarely leaving even a crack. I can't imagine road debris ever meeting a side window with enough relative speed to shatter it. I'm not remembering (but haven't checked) any of the shatterings being of the front windshield.

 

[SugarQueen]

DS insists I clarify.... Shooters passenger side won't pass victims passenger side UNLESS shooters car has steering wheel on opposite side like a mail truck or British car. Lol

 

[PrairieWind]

I havent been able to follow much lately but as i understand from the local news today the FBI has conclusively linked the shooting of the girl in the neck and the murder of the cyclist. Is that right? But we don't know how those shootings are linked?

 

[SugarQueen]

I havent been able to follow much lately but as i understand from the local news today the FBI has conclusively linked the shooting of the girl in the neck and the murder of the cyclist. Is that right? But we don't know how those shootings are linked?

Yes Prairie, they did link the two. LE won't discuss ballistics so I'm assuming that's the link.

 

[FindHG]

Yes Prairie, they did link the two. LE won't discuss ballistics so I'm assuming that's the link.

The other shootings are not linked by any evidence thus far, but not ruled out either, and the investigation continues, as per the last LE PC, IIRC.

SugarQueen, sounds fun, the match cars, and your DS taking the time to help. Thank you very much to both of you. You make the point so well. To practice something like this and not be seen doing it, it wouldn't be hard with all the farmland around. What season do you suppose would be the best time to do something like that.

 

[Forager]

DS insists I clarify.... Shooters passenger side won't pass victims passenger side UNLESS shooters car has steering wheel on opposite side like a mail truck or British car. Lol

D's can be difficult, but sometimes right.

 

[zapped]

There is a recent video making the rounds of social media that shows ceramic spark plugs being struck with a hammer.This causes the spark plug to fragment into very hard and sharp points.

Even a small piece of this material being thrown at a window with moderate force will cause it to shatter immediately.

Not saying this is the case here but its worth knowing nonetheless. Someone could be using ceramic tipped bullets as well and if thats the case, they shouldnt be very hard to track IMO.

Link below.

[video=youtube;QhlmKHbPFhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhlmKHbPFhU[/video]

 

[SugarQueen]

Zapped, thanks for the video! Those ceramic spark plug parts are the ninja rocks I mentioned above. Amazing huh?

 

[FindHG]

There is a recent video making the rounds of social media that shows ceramic spark plugs being struck with a hammer.This causes the spark plug to fragment into very hard and sharp points.

Even a small piece of this material being thrown at a window with moderate force will cause it to shatter immediately.

Not saying this is the case here but its worth knowing nonetheless. Someone could be using ceramic tipped bullets as well and if thats the case, they shouldnt be very hard to track IMO.

Link below.

[video=youtube;QhlmKHbPFhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhlmKHbPFhU[/video]

:heart:

zappie, thanks for being here.

 

[Forager]

So, breaking down / analyzing the shattered incidents from the fantastic 7news timeline article posted by SugarQueen (great map and timeline also posted upstream by Forager and FHG, will refer back to plug in additional info such as times, days of week, etc):

Out of the 20 incidents listed: (in progress)


2 incidents occurred on April 5 / day of week / times: ____, ___.
Locations:_______, _________.
Circumstances:
Circumstances:

1 incident occurred on April 18 / day of week / time:
Location:_______.
Circumstances:

[________Respectfully abridged by Forager for response_______]

*complete data analysis of shattereds / pattern of consecutive...

*so much to interpret here! Marking my spot to return here.

*insert analysis of locational data

*I wonder if there are other incidents of shattereds not listed...

I've tried to lay out the specifics of the various incidents in a spreadsheet. It's a different style than you suggested above, but I hope that it might serve your purposes. You can add columns or sort the rows to help organize your thoughts. It's set to a chronological sort at the moment.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HhEltIWV-FlpJxZ6F_QEuVgSyY7Fc1C6ztmJ3hRghAA/edit#gid=0

The sheet is set so that anyone with the link to it can use and change it. I have a backup in case of problems.

The map should now be up to date.

 

[FindHG]

zapped

You're great with diagrams and I'm trying to get a sense of where the shots may have been taken from in each case, in terms of direction and distance from what we can make of the reports and then go from there. Is there a way that you can think of to show that well for the victim who was wounded in the neck, to begin with, if you feel like it?

 

[FindHG]

I've tried to lay out the specifics of the various incidents in a spreadsheet. It's a different style than you suggested above, but I hope that it might serve your purposes. You can add columns or sort the rows to help organize your thoughts. It's set to a chronological sort at the moment.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HhEltIWV-FlpJxZ6F_QEuVgSyY7Fc1C6ztmJ3hRghAA/edit#gid=0

The sheet is set so that anyone with the link to it can use and change it. I have a backup in case of problems.

The map should now be up to date.

WOW, Forager, nice spreadsheet. This makes it so much easier to consider all the information. Thank you for taking the time.

CO Possible Shooter Spreadsheet


CO Shooter Case Map link

 

[Forager]

There is a recent video making the rounds of social media that shows ceramic spark plugs being struck with a hammer.This causes the spark plug to fragment into very hard and sharp points.

Even a small piece of this material being thrown at a window with moderate force will cause it to shatter immediately.

Not saying this is the case here but its worth knowing nonetheless. Someone could be using ceramic tipped bullets as well and if thats the case, they shouldnt be very hard to track IMO.

Link below.

[video=youtube;QhlmKHbPFhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhlmKHbPFhU[/video]

That's fascinating, and I appreciate your posting it, but can't accept it at face value. There has to be some slight of hand involved here. I'll try to test it myself.

Edited to add: I take it back. It's documented pretty well on the web. I'm flabbergasted.

 

[SugarQueen]

Ninja rocks are illegal in California. There is a lot of information online about them being used for smash and grab car break ins.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/ninja-rock-crime.htm

 

[margarita25]

Before I forget, (going back to catch up---looks like some good stuff upstream), my jmo speculative moo attempt at a profile. I've never attempted to profile a serial shooter, only abductors---it seems imo they might not be that far apart, no regard for human life.--, COWARDS. Only a pu$$y would do what this person is doing.

So, it will be interesting to see how close, or how far away I am on this, if they ever catch the person(s), which I do believe they will. I've been really close before, and really far in my predictions/profiles in other cases---no telling where this one will fall. Here it is fwiw:

1. Single shooter (or does he have a buddy with him?)
2. Male
3. Age 17-25
4. Lives approx 15 miles, maybe 30, within the crime scenes; I'm going to guess somewhere around Longmont, CO?
5. Works a minimum wage job, possibly pizza delivery or fast food.
6. Attends community college, possibly Front Range Community College.
7. Divorced Parents (perp was deeply affected by the divorce as a child).
8. Plays violent video games all day long whenever he can and has for years.
9. High School Reject.
10. Social misfit/Introvert.
11. Lives with parents or in college apartment.
12. Uses parents' car or drives crappy car.
13. Unsuccessful with females / dating--maybe even has struggles with gender identity/sexuality.
14. Colorado Native.
15. Emotionally numb, no conscience, no regard for human life, zero inter-personal/social skills.
16. Rides a skateboard.
17. Has shot at dogs/cats, etc.
18. Small in stature.
19. White.
20. Poor personal hygiene.

JMO MOOOO
*I could be soooo way off here!!!!! AgaIn all speculation JMO!