Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #38

[NuttMegg]

In my opinion he did it.

In my opinion he snapped.

In my opinion being introverted and what have you (personality disorders, etc.)has nothing to do with it. Our society prizes extroversion and most people get the wrong idea about introversion and think people are just weird or shy since they aren’t outgoing.

In my opinion he snapped because people that aren’t the dominate or equal partner in a marriage hold it in until they can’t take it any longer. At that point it doesn’t matter what the reason is. And IMO This is where the differences between men dominated in a relationship and women dominated in a relationship come into play. Many women either kill themselves, leave, or slowly become of shell of themselves when they stay, while men take extremes sometimes (putting it mildly I know)

And if he killed the kids, IMO, it’s because as someone pointed out earlier in a post (will try to look for it later), he may have hated the kids because of her.

All this does not justify murder and all this is just my opinion. I just hate to see introverts and people with social anxiety get a bad rap.

I agree, (believe it or not) I dislike using the words introvert and extrovert, because the last definition that rang true to me is 1) introverts lose energy in a group, and recoup that energy when back home, or alone. 2) extroverts gain energy from being in a group situation, and lose energy when alone. Sometimes we use words in the way we think others will connect with, like a common denominator, thus my use of the word introvert in my post bad mouthing him. I think I won't use it anymore anyway as it means so many different things to different ppl and neither introvert nor extrovert is more than just a label. But the concepts in my post I do believe in. Sometimes people just explode to get attention, which they never got throughout their lives, in normal ways.

 

[MerryB]

Brain is slow today, can you tell me what DP is?

Death Penalty

 

[JDough]

I’m sure you did. It’s not your fault. Unfortunately, sometimes what is actually stated in an article or interview is then misconstrued by others to fit their preconceived ideas or fit existing theories. I just wanted to bring attention to the actual facts.

The actual facts are that none of his current friends are coming forward publicly in his defense. Many of us are wondering why.

 

[CarnegieHall]

Roommates are not necessarily friends. Who were his friends? Who has come forward and identified themselves as a friend?

Ok I’m normally a lurker but have to post. When would he have had time for friends? Have you never known someone who was dominated in a relationship? The outgoing extroverted one is always planning my activities and always on the go. He wants to stay after work and get a beer? No expected home to watch the kids or go to mutual friends for dinner. Go on vacations by himself? How? When? It takes continual effort to keep close friends, and much harder if you are introverted. And once kids come along, so much harder and so much effort. Again read about introversion, whereas extroverts derive energy from other people, introverts find it very tiring to socialize. If you’re working all day and taking care of house and helping with kids and socializing with mutual frIends and you’re introverted, who wants to do more than that?

Again, all my opinion.

 

[MerryB]

I think it's interesting that the only friend who has come forward is someone he hasn't spoken to in 13 years. And a high school teacher, of course.

IMO current friends & family members have been encouraged to stay silent for now for a multitude of reasons.

 

[MerryB]

The actual facts are that none of his current friends are coming forward publicly in his defense. Many of us are wondering why.

I believe they’ve been advised not to at this time. MOO

 

[mtnlites]

Yes, it is. And it's certainly more relevant to the case than discussing the vitamins in a patch that SW may or may not have worn during pregnancy. At some point, he may need character witnesses. Where are they?
MOO

To me, it says volumes and it's definitely more relevant than the whole patch/OB thing.

 

[JDough]

I believe they’ve been advised not to at this time. MOO

This is entirely possible. Thank you for your reply.

 

[PommyMommy]

I’m sure people are far more likely to speak glowingly of someone who has passed away than of someone who is being accused of murder.
Many people IMO are afraid to even speak out due to the backlash they might get for “supporting” a murderer.

Before she "passed away?" Surely you must mean before she was murdered, right? And, we have two VI's here who knew Shanann before she was murdered who have spoken quite highly of her. If there's any doubt whether Shanann was well loved by people who knew her prior to being murdered by her husband, one only needs to take a look at the hundreds or thousands of comments on her FB posts and the many articles that contain quotes from various friends across the country.
MOO

 

[NuttMegg]

I’m sure people are far more likely to speak glowingly of someone who has passed away than of someone who is being accused of murder.
Many people IMO are afraid to even speak out due to the backlash they might get for “supporting” a murderer.

Sometimes they attack the victim instead. Like hinting at character problems, possible personality deficits, seeing too many docs, lied about her doctor's orders, bossing him around, the whole spiel, we see it day in and day out. That is supporting CW, instead of getting on a street corner soapbox and shouting clear support for him.

 

[CarnegieHall]

To me, it says volumes and it's definitely more relevant than the whole patch/OB thing.

Imo I think anyone he knew in the last few years(work people, ap and mutual friends) will be called in some form by either defence or prosecution so they have been advised not to speak at this point.

 

[Best of What's Around]

IMO current friends & family members have been encouraged to stay silent for now for a multitude of reasons.

Do you have a link for that? Or is this pure speculation?

 

[Best of What's Around]

I believe they’ve been advised not to at this time. MOO

We have no evidence of this unless you can share it.

 

[tara83]

Ok I’m normally a lurker but have to post. When would he have had time for friends? Have you never known someone who was dominated in a relationship? The outgoing extroverted one is always planning my activities and always on the go. He wants to stay after work and get a beer? No expected home to watch the kids or go to mutual friends for dinner. Go on vacations by himself? How? When? It takes continual effort to keep close friends, and much harder if you are introverted. And once kids come along, so much harder and so much effort. Again read about introversion, whereas extroverts derive energy from other people, introverts find it very tiring to socialize. If you’re working all day and taking care of house and helping with kids and socializing with mutual frIends and you’re introverted, who wants to do more than that?

Again, all my opinion.

Well he had time for at least one affair so he must not have been too dominated and busy taking care of the kids.

 

[CarnegieHall]

Before she "passed away?" Surely you must mean before she was murdered, right? And, we have two VI's here who knew Shanann before she was murdered who have spoken quite highly of her. If there's any doubt whether Shanann was well loved by people who knew her prior to being murdered by her husband, one only needs to take a look at the hundreds or thousands of comments on her FB posts and the many articles that contain quotes from various friends across the country.
MOO

IMO, not to sound argumentative, but this is like when Facebook first came out and people compared their likability to have many “friends” they have. I don’t think anyone is debating that shannan was extremely outgoing and friendly. But that doesn’t mean that someone who is not that outgoing and doesn’t have admiration she had is any less of a person. And I do agree with another poster who said we tend to overlook faults when people die.

 

[Jennifer17]

Well he had time for at least one affair so he must not have been too dominated and busy taking care of the kids.

And likely more than one affair.

 

[Layla123]

I’m sure people are far more likely to speak glowingly of someone who has passed away than of someone who is being accused of murder.
Many people IMO are afraid to even speak out due to the backlash they might get for “supporting” a murderer.

But many people are interested in the academic and psychological aspects of human behavior when people cross an uncrossable line. They realize the information they can provide about their relationship with the accused could be very insightful. There’s always some of those, but not for this murder.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

The actual facts are that none of his current friends are coming forward publicly in his defense. Many of us are wondering why.

In my opinion, it makes perfect sense that nobody has come forward if they are his friends. The people that have come out, said this was very unexpected.

Therefore I would analogize it to if I had a friend that publicly stated he killed his wife and baby, and was charged with the murder of all four of them, there is no way in Hades I will be getting out in public saying that he was a nice guy, he was a friend, and this was unexpected. I would totally be under a rock instead of in public and on television or on social media or on television Etc.

Those that have come out in public have stated this was totally unexpected. And unforeseen. In my opinion. And I'm glad they did. But I'm not surprised that anybody else has not.

Also, I agree with another poster who stated there is nothing wrong with being an introverted person, and many married men that I know do not have a lot of guy friends. It's just the way it works when you get married. It's couples friends. And yes, I do understand that most of the couple friends are often through the wife, and not the husband. It's that way with many of my friends and in my experience.

 

[Gardener1850]

Ok I’m normally a lurker but have to post. When would he have had time for friends? Have you never known someone who was dominated in a relationship? The outgoing extroverted one is always planning my activities and always on the go. He wants to stay after work and get a beer? No expected home to watch the kids or go to mutual friends for dinner. Go on vacations by himself? How? When? It takes continual effort to keep close friends, and much harder if you are introverted. And once kids come along, so much harder and so much effort. Again read about introversion, whereas extroverts derive energy from other people, introverts find it very tiring to socialize. If you’re working all day and taking care of house and helping with kids and socializing with mutual frIends and you’re introverted, who wants to do more than that?

Again, all my opinion.

How did he find time to have affair(s)?

 

[PommyMommy]

Sometimes they attack the victim instead. Like hinting at character problems, possible personality deficits, seeing too many docs, lied about her doctor's orders, bossing him around, the whole spiel, we see it day in and day out. That is supporting CW, instead of getting on a street corner soapbox and shouting clear support for him.

When there are no facts that support that CW is innocent, the defense is left with assassinating the character of the victim. It is desperate and shameful.

Criminologist Denise Mowder said this: "When he said she was the one strangling the children, I knew right then he was the one who strangled the children, because he can give all the details of what he said she did because he was doing it himself," she said. "It's going to be hard on the family to hear the lies. And there's some secrets there, I'm afraid. It's going to be hard for the jury. It's going to be hard for the public to really understand because there is no understanding it," Mowder said.
Criminologist on Chris Watts case: 'There's some secrets there'