Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #52

[Tippy Lynn]

Maybe. I don’t think we will ever know the truth. He’s the only one that knows but everything he’s told is a lie. I won’t believe any story he tells. The only truth we will get is from the autopsy where we can come to our own conclusions.

I agree.

 

[Jennifer17]

I look at it as legal vs. unethical. No we cannot kill someone that is illegal. Can I say something horrible until I learn otherwise? That may be unethical. I’ve had to take back a few words in my life in lesser situations. I believe she is just trying to find an alternate solution to the truth and is trying to hold on to that. I feel for her in that respect. But the truth is the truth. Four people are dead and her son is responsible in some way. I am blessed I have not been in that situation with my own children.

BBM. There is no 'alternate solution' to the truth, IMO.

 

[MassGuy]

My memory is bad but didn’t Scott Peterson’s parents defend him the same way and still defending their Golden Boy Scott. I can’t believe these cases are so similar.

Absolutely. They’re all the same people, just with different names.

 

[k-mac]

”Because someone chooses to see life through an altered state, is not the rest of the world’s problem.”

I couldn’t possibly agree more with that statement.

I might even have that etched on my gravestone, right after “Yankees Suck.”

There is no “her reality,” there is “the reality.”

The reality is that she is wrong.

sounds like a plan MG!

that's right. she is wrong....and justifying away her disgusting behaviour is equally callous in my book.

 

[Jeng1810]

That's very true but there is a big difference between denial and blame and taking steps to prove and publicly claim the victim is in some way responsible for her own murder. Jmo

I think she is grasping at straws at this point. I apparently created a $hit storm even discussing this and I want to be clear I do not condone her words but understand she is likely “thinking out loud”. How many of us really have had to talk to the press about our killer son? Publicly she is trying to figure this out. Maybe this should have been a private endeavor but she was pressured into doing this? MOO

 

[Jeng1810]

BBM. There is no 'alternate solution' to the truth, IMO.

I agree but that is what SHE is trying to find not me.

 

[Jennifer17]

I think she is grasping at straws at this point. I apparently created a $hit storm even discussing this and I want to be clear I do not condone her words but understand she is likely “thinking out loud”. How many of us really have had to talk to the press about our killer son? Publicly she is trying to figure this out. Maybe this should have been a private endeavor but she was pressured into doing this? MOO

She did not have to talk to the press. She chose to and even had others facilitating that for her.

 

[k-mac]

Four people are dead and her son is responsible in some way.

rsbm


in "some' way??
really seeing a familiar picture here

 

[Jeng1810]

She did not have to talk to the press. She chose to and even had others facilitating that for her.

I have been in this situation with my sister so I know that. Luckily I was 1500 mikes away but the rest of my family wasn’t so lucky and they wear you down until u just want it over.

 

[Jennifer17]

I agree but that is what SHE is trying to find not me.

Alternate solutions to the truth is lying.

 

[liltexans]

We will never truly know this. The 200+ people who work for me see a totally different me than the 4 people within the walls of my house. And that is not a bad thing it is different circumstances. It is all relative and not being a part of this family I choose not to speculate what she or other family members are going through.

From what I’ve seen of her public side, I shudder to think what she shows people privately.

 

[MsBetsy]

They sure shouldn’t but these situations can make some jump to any conclusion to avoid the pain of their reality. Unfortunate as it is.

I'm sure most people would agree with that. I don't think anyone is judging anyone for that. And there is nothing wrong with sharing those thoughts with family members and friends. It is the fact that this women is basically telling millions of people how she feels and making an effort to let everyone know that she thinks the victim is more likely to have killed her own children because of what a horrible woman she was. That is what the problem is. Not that they don't empathise with the way people grieve. Imo

 

[Jennifer17]

I have been in this situation with my sister so I know that. Luckily I was 1500 mikes away but the rest of my family wasn’t so lucky and they wear you down until u just want it over.

And yet, SW's family were not worn down, even though the pressure on them would presumably been greater and they had far more reason to feel bitter about their daughter and grandchildren's deaths at the hands of a person who was supposed to protect them.

 

[Jeng1810]

rsbm


in "some' way??
really seeing a familiar picture here

We can mince words. I wasn’t there and I am not privy to autopsies

Alternate solutions to the truth is lying.

we don’t have all the details yet so I will not assume what she knows at this point.

 

[Jennifer17]

We can mince words. I wasn’t there and I am not privy to autopsies

we don’t have all the details yet so I will not assume what she knows at this point.

He has pleaded guilty to all charges. The autopsy is not going to change that. They were available to his defence and to LE who did not reduce any charges.
And again, he has pleaded guilty. She knows nothing more than you or I do.

 

[Noreen McGurl]

This case i me cry!!

And yet, SW's family were not worn down, even though the pressure on them would presumably been greater and they had far more reason to feel bitter about their daughter and grandchildren's deaths at the hands of a person who was supposed to protect them.

Shanann's family rose above their heartache and pain and chose life for their monster son-in-law or chose not to take his life... they are, this is a fact, better people and it is indicative of where she came from, her roots and upbringing and it should be and nod to her family and everything she was and will always be, her Legacy forever an angel!!

 

[compass]

Ok. So I'm going to react by shooting the DA when they charge my kid with murdering his spouse and/or my grandkids.

So that would not be wrong, just a "different" way to grieve?

These folks are doing something horrible by bashing a murder victim, publicly, causing untold additional suffering to her loved ones.

Perhaps grief can explain why someone behaves badly but it doesn't magically make their bad behavior simply "different" rather than wrong.

Exactly!!!

 

[tmar]

Colorado303
"I’m hopeful if Mommy starts bashing the victims the judge will shut her down. I have fantasies of her being removed from the courtroom mid-speech."

Copied from previous thread.

Now that the Watts have an attorney, surely he/she has advised how they should act in Court, at sentencing.
He/she would have clearly stated, how detrimental Cindy Watts' media interviews have been, and how she is being portrayed.
We may see a much subdued version, in the support for CW, with no bashing of Shan'ann.
MOO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Is there any chance CW stands up at this sentencing and makes any kind of statement, or even acknowledges he committed these crimes? Yes, I know, I know, magical thinking I'm sure.

If there is no chance of an "appeal" since he is pleading guilty, he doesn't need to carefully word what he says. (As opposed to when defendants say, "I'm sorry for the loss of your daughter" or "I'm sorry for your pain" or "I understand I will be sentenced for the crime I am convicted of" - but never actually admit to the crime, because they have usually been advised not to jeopardize an appeal.)

But... he doesn't strike me as the type who will do the honorable thing and apologize to SW's family (and his own). Taking the plea deal and not putting everyone through this had given me a tiny bit of hope, but based (imo) on everything we have seen from him to date, it is to protect his own self interests, not because it's the "right" thing to do. It would just benefit both families if he admitted to his crimes and showed remorse, but why am I even thinking he would show empathy for anyone besides himself.

I wonder if he will say anything at all besides answering the judge's questions and acknowledging the plea agreement and sentence.

Hmmm. Well, we haven't heard him express any remorse in 3 months for murdering his children and his pregnant wife, but there was an article posted here earlier today, that said he really regrets that NK got pulled into this. So maybe he'll apologize for that. MOO

 

[Layla123]

They sure shouldn’t but these situations can make some jump to any conclusion to avoid the pain of their reality. Unfortunate as it is.

And I don’t think it should be encouraged or enabled. Mrs. Watts knows for a fact that her son dumped Bella and CeCe’s bodies in oil tanks! Any mother would be horrified at the thought that their son was capable of committing such a heinous act. Any person who would do such a thing is a monster! That is all the information she needs to know that the son she thought she knew is not the son she has. This is murder we are talking about, 3 people were killed! Two of them were under the age of 5. A little humility would go a long way here. If I knew her, that’s what I would tell her. She is not helping her son or herself, she is causing more pain.