Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* #109

[Charlot123]

I believe any discussion about leaving together for Ecuador was just ... fantasy as lovers do. I don't think JL planned to ever leave his wife and children either, AND I don't think Suzanne wanted him to. IIRC, she was going to leave BM and not contact JL for a while.

I disagree that JL was a cad using Suzanne for a good time. Could be that she was using him or they were using each other They knew each other way back, she trusted him and they were also friends. I believe he helped her realize her worth and probably validated a lot of her feelings regarding BM's treatment of her.

We know the attraction of high school relationships, especially ones that "weren't meant to be". Today we speak about "unresolved gestalts", but basically, it is intense curiosity of "how it might have been, if". I suspect that Suzanne was split over Barry a long time ago - on the one hand, "God has provided", on the other, he was a boorish, narcissistic, uncaring, rigid man. And especially since in HS she "disappeared" with JL, for one evening, maybe she always kept that image of a tender, cute boy in her mind? We always say, "history doesn't have subjunctive mood", yet on a personal level, who hasn't fallen into this trap? So once, in a fragile moment of her life, Suzanne wanted to create the past that didn't happen.

Essentially, in JL, she saw exactly what she had seen in HS - still attractive, but weak and uncorageous man. Burdened with family, not super successful. Why did she cling onto that dream? Probably, being drained by cancer and deeply offended by Barry, she wanted to see the same adoration in the eyes of JL that she saw in her youth?

I think in the future, she would have collected herself and, step by step, find everything - a job, a good partner. All she probably needed was some boost of self-esteem. This is why, regardless of their photos and the relationship being physical, it served only her emotional need.

And JL, well, same thing. Returning to his youth, to the girl he loved. It's not the same as a middle-aged man hooking up with a young woman. It is really relieving own youth.

Neither was a cad. Both paid dearly for their short-lived trip into own youth.

And, I don't think we should shame either of them. Suzanne is dead. JL, give or take, is the keeper of her memory. Memory that is now tarnished by BM who publicly, on TV, called his deceased wife an addict. And by the time of her death, she was still battling cancer.

 

[Megnut]

Seattle your such a treasure thank you xx

Sounds HARD controlling doesn't it??

Why would a 16 year old give her dad her phone while she went camping.

Nope...no way...nadda.

Even IF no phone service ...we gotta loooooooooooot of selfies to take.
Music to listen to....
Games to play.....
Alarm clock and time
and the off chance of some spot service.


come on now Barry. BIG LIE.

She got another phone FYI Bazza.

eta I reckon he spied on all of them.
I have 3 adult kids....and have never discussed with them or with anyone else their sexual experiences. It is none of my business.

Maybe BM bought MM2 a nice shiny new phone so he could use MM2's old phone for creepy internet searches and to track Suzanne (easily Suzanne and MM2 might've had location sharing). I wonder if MM2 knew BM had her phone. Maybe she thought it was lost... and daddy was (pretending to be) nice enough to buy a replacement....

I do not trust his motives.

JMO

 

[windrower]

ETA: I think that we are perhaps just looking at this differently. You're looking at this through a forensics lens; I'm looking at it from a legal perspective. For example, to me, she's shown me her defenses in the civil complaint. She laid out her case and I'd be a fool to ignore it. So, I'd be looking to explain away as much of it as I could. I'd also be looking to see if any of the DNA on the nightstand or many bicycle parts with unknown DNA came back as a match to anyone connected to BM. Imo, that could be a boon. It could not only lead to additional charges (e.g., conspiracy), but more importantly could lead to additional indictments that may ultimately result in a defendant turning/flipping. You don't know unless you look. And, in order to look, you have to test DNA in the immediate vicinity of a crime scene. That's all.

jmo

sbbm

DNA on the bicycle. GD (and BM) touching the bike after it was found the night SUZANNE went missing, even though a police officer told them not to.

Did they each need to make sure there was an explanation for their DNA on the bike? Especially GD?

Conspiracy? Maybe a fresh look at everything AND everyone this next go round.

Speculation. IMO. Finding SUZANNE has my mind working overtime. May she have justice.

 

[acutename]

We know the attraction of high school relationships, especially ones that "weren't meant to be". Today we speak about "unresolved gestalts", but basically, it is intense curiosity of "how it might have been, if". I suspect that Suzanne was split over Barry a long time ago - on the one hand, "God has provided", on the other, he was a boorish, narcissistic, uncaring, rigid man. And especially since in HS she "disappeared" with JL, for one evening, maybe she always kept that image of a tender, cute boy in her mind? We always say, "history doesn't have subjunctive mood", yet on a personal level, who hasn't fallen into this trap? So once, in a fragile moment of her life, Suzanne wanted to create the past that didn't happen.

Essentially, in JL, she saw exactly what she had seen in HS - still attractive, but weak and uncorageous man. Burdened with family, not super successful. Why did she cling onto that dream? Probably, being drained by cancer and deeply offended by Barry, she wanted to see the same adoration in the eyes of JL that she saw in her youth?

I think in the future, she would have collected herself and, step by step, find everything - a job, a good partner. All she probably needed was some boost of self-esteem. This is why, regardless of their photos and the relationship being physical, it served only her emotional need.

And JL, well, same thing. Returning to his youth, to the girl he loved. It's not the same as a middle-aged man hooking up with a young woman. It is really relieving own youth.

Neither was a cad. Both paid dearly for their short-lived trip into own youth.

And, I don't think we should shame either of them. Suzanne is dead. JL, give or take, is the keeper of her memory. Memory that is now tarnished by BM who publicly, on TV, called his deceased wife an addict. And by the time of her death, she was still battling cancer.

I think a serious illness can impact people and give them a feeling that they need to act on impulses-"now or never"- so maybe not surprising that cancer made SM want to change her life. The texts between her and JL seem silly to me- but I see them as a person trying to find a reason to be happy and to carry on living, IMO.

 

[Charlot123]

I can give you the background of the BM-- employer, and MG--independent contractor, from the AA but once the witness's name was out and MG agreed to interviews, it's more difficult to fill in the blanks with outside interviews.

From the AA: BM identified MG as his primary contractor. MG states that he talked to her about his daughters so it follows she would recognize the daughter's phone paired to BM's truck on Saturday morning when he collected her for work from the Fitness Center. I recall MG asked BM about why he had MM2's phone and he responded he had the phone because she was camping. MOO

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"Paired" means via a Bluetooth device, so either the phone was in the car, or...here are many opportunities. Wondering about BM getting into MM's icloud.

BTW, pay attention - MG was his contractor. So, he mush have trusted her. Yet later he called her and the other guy working for him "methead". He doesn't see anything good in humans.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

We know the attraction of high school relationships, especially ones that "weren't meant to be". Today we speak about "unresolved gestalts", but basically, it is intense curiosity of "how it might have been, if". I suspect that Suzanne was split over Barry a long time ago - on the one hand, "God has provided", on the other, he was a boorish, narcissistic, uncaring, rigid man. And especially since in HS she "disappeared" with JL, for one evening, maybe she always kept that image of a tender, cute boy in her mind? We always say, "history doesn't have subjunctive mood", yet on a personal level, who hasn't fallen into this trap? So once, in a fragile moment of her life, Suzanne wanted to create the past that didn't happen.

Essentially, in JL, she saw exactly what she had seen in HS - still attractive, but weak and uncorageous man. Burdened with family, not super successful. Why did she cling onto that dream? Probably, being drained by cancer and deeply offended by Barry, she wanted to see the same adoration in the eyes of JL that she saw in her youth?

I think in the future, she would have collected herself and, step by step, find everything - a job, a good partner. All she probably needed was some boost of self-esteem. This is why, regardless of their photos and the relationship being physical, it served only her emotional need.

And JL, well, same thing. Returning to his youth, to the girl he loved. It's not the same as a middle-aged man hooking up with a young woman. It is really relieving own youth.

Neither was a cad. Both paid dearly for their short-lived trip into own youth.

And, I don't think we should shame either of them. Suzanne is dead. JL, give or take, is the keeper of her memory. Memory that is now tarnished by BM who publicly, on TV, called his deceased wife an addict. And by the time of her death, she was still battling cancer.

Suzanne was thoughtful in her choice of affair partner. She went with someone she had known for 30 years or more. She knew that JL would not leave his wife and six children. He lived far away. He was low drama and stable. Plus, he could really keep a secret!

 

[Charlot123]

Maybe BM bought MM2 a nice shiny new phone so he could use MM2's old phone for creepy internet searches and to track Suzanne (easily Suzanne and MM2 might've had location sharing). I wonder if MM2 knew BM had her phone. Maybe she thought it was lost... and daddy was (pretending to be) nice enough to buy a replacement....

I do not trust his motives.

JMO

Well, there are things like split SIM cards, too. Even from different providers, and legally.

 

[O.Incandenza]

She strikes me as competent within a certain range of cases, but not a Federal civil case. So I'm going with "she's incompent in re: filing federal civil cases regarding a county-based criminal investigation, in which she ought to have been more than happy with the result (the case was dismissed without prejudice, meaning it could be refiled - her client's situation was a tad precarious to begin with).

She overstepped and I believe it's due to the most extraordinary, overweening pride I've ever witnesses in a young criminal defense attorney, but that's how some of they try to make their bones in a tight market.

You actually state why I think she's incompetent (in regard to the civil case). "They must have had a strategy." Who must have had one? No one can expect a non-lawyer (Barry) to have one and she's not a civil plaintiff's attorney. I think she did NOT have a strategy and I've thought so all along. There are several things about the suit I've already mentioned that are wonky.

You say, "I can't imagine Barry testifying." And yet that's his primary and ONLY role in his OWN complaint about his own civil rights being violated. He is approaching the Federal Court with a statement that his Civil RIghts have been violated. HUGE claim and in a CIVIL case, the burden of proof is on the plaintiff. Of COURSE he has to testify/respond to large numbers of interrogatories, undergo days (if not weeks) of depositions under oath. You're saying she's not incompetent, and yet that's exactly what she signed her client up for, all in thirst for $$. Yes, it's tempting. But every attorney I've talked to about thinks she's either grandiose or woefully inexperienced at federal civil cases.

If it is true that it is Barry who demanded this (which I doubt) she should have referred him to the best possible federal civil rights lawyer she knew - this is not her bailiwick and it shows. She's the one who organized the filing, not Barry. She advised him. She is responsible for that filing. I don't see how it can be argued that Barry is at the steering wheel and that IE is somehow still a competent lawyer.

A competent lawyer gives their client good legal advice, even when the client doesn't want to hear it. Better to have Client go off to some other attorney (no way Barry was going to go to an actual civil rights attorney on his own, IMO).

What friend got a payday ? No one has a dime from this case, so far. It's ALL expenses (that you and I are paying at the court level) No one has made a dime from this lawsuit so far. Unless Barry paid IE and her two sets of civil lawyers (who aren't even specialists at federal law and typically take things on contingency). I strongly believe that this is a contingency case (no one makes any money unless they win). They haven't even gotten past the motion to dismiss yet. That's the opposite of a win. And with so many defendants, those hapless civil attorneys, working for free, may well silently slink out the door. The number of hours they'll have to spend (and on zero chances of winning, IMO) makes them look...silly.

Can't wait to see what's going to happen next. IE is, imo, quite bright and passed her bar exam. But she is a terrible strategist and has gone one bridge too far, IMO.

All IMO of course. You're a lot more forgiving and/or kind than I am when reviewing lawyers.

An unfortunate side effect of going to law school, I guess.

I agree with your assessment that filing the civil lawsuit was foolish. But I do think you're understating the federal civil trial experience involved. The F&B firm lawyers seem to have real experience with civil rights claims in federal court. Given that, they have to have a strategy for how Barry's depositions & interrogatories will be handled. It's the first thing you'd have to think about before you filed this case. Especially if you're taking it on contingency.

If it was only IE filing the case, I could see it being a lawyer on an ego-trip who got out over her skis. But I don't know why the more experienced civil lawyers would join her for the ride. Perhaps it was just a bet that enough of the defendants would want to avoid discovery that they could settle with some of them, but that seems a really poor bet given how eager LE would be to depose Barry and the fact that most of the defendants will have lawyers paid for by their employers.

 

[Error505]

I believe any discussion about leaving together for Ecuador was just ... fantasy as lovers do. I don't think JL planned to ever leave his wife and children either, AND I don't think Suzanne wanted him to. IIRC, she was going to leave BM and not contact JL for a while.

I disagree that JL was a cad using Suzanne for a good time. Could be that she was using him or they were using each other They knew each other way back, she trusted him and they were also friends. I believe he helped her realize her worth and probably validated a lot of her feelings regarding BM's treatment of her.

We agree on most. Yes, they used each other. I don't have nice feelings about him bc when she “disappeared”, he went completely silent, not just ghost, but dead silent. He deleted everything he could delete, even got a new phone, old one wasn’t available. He said he didn’t want to come forward and tarnish her image. Maybe…., but he was hoping his wife wouldn’t find out. Can’t blame him, 5 or 6 kids at home, mostly grown, worried his marriage would be over. But he hid so well that it took the spy pen and FBI 5 or 6 mos to find him. Never came forward to offer to help locate her or give information that might be helpful.
Didn’t he ever wonder what happened to her? She dropped off the face of the earth and he never tried to help find her. Broken hearted for Suzanne.
#Justice4Suzanne. MOO (my .02)

 

[mrjitty]

An unfortunate side effect of going to law school, I guess.

I agree with your assessment that filing the civil lawsuit was foolish. But I do think you're understating the federal civil trial experience involved. The F&B firm lawyers seem to have real experience with civil rights claims in federal court. Given that, they have to have a strategy for how Barry's depositions & interrogatories will be handled. It's the first thing you'd have to think about before you filed this case. Especially if you're taking it on contingency.

If it was only IE filing the case, I could see it being a lawyer on an ego-trip who got out over her skis. But I don't know why the more experienced civil lawyers would join her for the ride. Perhaps it was just a bet that enough of the defendants would want to avoid discovery that they could settle with some of them, but that seems a really poor bet given how eager LE would be to depose Barry and the fact that most of the defendants will have lawyers paid for by their employers.

Maybe they all drank the bath water and really believe the conspiracy about the glove box sex offender. And they think the state can't risk discovery because all the bad stuff will come out. Or maybe they think that bad stuff is out there even if BM is guilty, therefore same result?

 

[mrjitty]

Odd that BM hasn't come out in public even to do a read from a hymn sheet / no questions press statement

They aren't even pretending they think this will clear him

 

[mrjitty]

^^bbm

I don't doubt the strategy was BM et., al being dependent on the State/Feds to settle and the case never going to trial -- even if BM had to lie during his depositions.

Inference to be drawn

While in a criminal procedure, the court must instruct the jury that it cannot draw an inference of guilt from a defendant’s failure to testify about facts relevant to his case, (Griffin v. California (1965) 80 U.S. 609). In civil cases, “the Fifth Amendment does not forbid adverse inferences against parties to civil actions when they refuse to testify in response to probative evidence offered against them.” (Baxter v. Palmigiano (1976) 425 U.S. 308, 318.)


Under Baxter, an opposing party can’t simply point to the silence and claim victory in their civil case. A court is entitled to draw adverse inferences against the party who “pleads the Fifth.” As Justice Brandeis said, “Silence is often evidence of the most persuasive character.” (United States ex rel. Bilokumsky v. Tod (1923) 263 U.S. 149, 153-154.)

Maybe IE actually believes BM is innocent?????

The way the document is pleaded certainly anticipates that he would testify. Whereas if they only did the discovery violations stuff he would not necessarily have to.

 

[Boxer]

We agree on most. Yes, they used each other. I don't have nice feelings about him bc when she “disappeared”, he went completely silent, not just ghost, but dead silent. He deleted everything he could delete, even got a new phone, old one wasn’t available. He said he didn’t want to come forward and tarnish her image. Maybe…., but he was hoping his wife wouldn’t find out. Can’t blame him, 5 or 6 kids at home, mostly grown, worried his marriage would be over. But he hid so well that it took the spy pen and FBI 5 or 6 mos to find him. Never came forward to offer to help locate her or give information that might be helpful.
Didn’t he ever wonder what happened to her? She dropped off the face of the earth and he never tried to help find her. Broken hearted for Suzanne.
#Justice4Suzanne. MOO (my .02)

MOO He knew what happened to her, he was afraid it would happen to him. He knew Barry.

 

[Seattle1]

Maybe IE actually believes BM is innocent?????

The way the document is pleaded certainly anticipates that he would testify. Whereas if they only did the discovery violations stuff he would not necessarily have to.

Continuing the charade, how do they turn to LE now to find the killer of their wife and mother, at the same time they are suing the forces of CBI, FBI, and the County Sheriff? Does IE tell the daughters that justice for BM and $$$ are the priority and finding the killer isn't going to make their lives better?

What a greedy mess they made -- and they all deserve each other. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Per the document, raked the beach on May 8th. Is that a typo??????

I'm sure it is. BM did not end the work day early to go off and make the wife happy on Friday, May 8.

 

[mrjitty]

Continuing the charade, how do they turn to LE now to find the killer of their wife and mother, at the same time they are suing the forces of CBI, FBI, and the County Sheriff? Does IE tell the daughters that justice for BM and $$$ are the priority and finding the killer isn't going to make their lives better?

What a greedy mess they made -- and they all deserve each other. JMO

I was reminded of IE's GMA hit a few months back where she advised LE to go look elsewhere for where SMs remains were buried. Seems odd now!

 

[kittythehare]

Even if Suzanne's grave was dug to 3 feet deep, by the time she was placed in it, and covered with some soil, wouldn't it then be a 2 feet grave?

not unless she gained about 20 stone..

 

[kittythehare]

I believe any discussion about leaving together for Ecuador was just ... fantasy as lovers do. I don't think JL planned to ever leave his wife and children either, AND I don't think Suzanne wanted him to. IIRC, she was going to leave BM and not contact JL for a while.

I disagree that JL was a cad using Suzanne for a good time. Could be that she was using him or they were using each other They knew each other way back, she trusted him and they were also friends. I believe he helped her realize her worth and probably validated a lot of her feelings regarding BM's treatment of her.

He's a bit of a disaster okay but I think she got what she needed when she needed it, validation as a woman and a beautiful woman.
I think it made her stronger and she was more clearly in a position mentally to really look at the domineering bore that was her husband and the control he exerted over her all those years, ref transcripts of her messages to her friend from AA.

For all we know her bf may be broken hearted and bereft following her murder.
It is so sad.

I'm glad she had the experience of being 'in love' so close to her untimely death.

i also think there is so much more we don't know about the abuse she suffered over the years at the hands of her spouse who had her so tightly choked she didn't know fact from fiction.
Coercive control and domestic violence at the level of physical mental and spiritual because he controlled God too..

 

[Kemug]

Maybe BM bought MM2 a nice shiny new phone so he could use MM2's old phone for creepy internet searches and to track Suzanne (easily Suzanne and MM2 might've had location sharing). I wonder if MM2 knew BM had her phone. Maybe she thought it was lost... and daddy was (pretending to be) nice enough to buy a replacement....

I do not trust his motives.

JMO

I like the way your mind works!

 

[kittythehare]

Although the 11th Judicial District previously prosecuted the case, Suzanne’s body was found in the 12 Judicial District. According to Colorado state law, the location of a trial is determined by where the death was inflicted, where the death occurred, and where the body was found.

“The body apparently was found in the 12th Judicial District, whereas the 11th Judicial District was the one that originally filed the murder charges,” said Henry Solano, the 3rd Judicial District Attorney. “If that's the case, it can technically be two different venues.”

Solano said if that is determined to be the case, 11th DA Linda Stanley and 12th DA Ann Kelly will likely work together with the Colorado District Attorneys’ Council to determine how to handle the case.

“It would be a collaborative effort and I assume and believe that they would make the decision based upon a number of different factors, including where the witnesses may be located, where the underlying evidentiary results in tests and other kinds of physical evidence may be, and as well as the capacity that each judicial district may have at the time in order to be able to take on such an important and potentially large case,” Solano said.

11th Judicial District Attorney's Office spent quarter of a million dollars on Morphew case | KRDO

11th Judicial District Attorney's Office spent quarter of a million dollars on Morphew case

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