Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #27

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I agree, the more information LE needs from private citizens, the more they will court the public in press conferences.

IMO, the almost total lack of press conferences tells me LE knows what happened, but can't prove it yet or find her remains.

Boy, the silence must be very anxiety provoking to BM, or perhaps that is the intent.. A useful interrogation technique is the "pregnant pause".

JMO, MOO

@MassGuy good to have you back! You behave:cool:
^^bbm

Absolutely!

As I've said before, BM was already knee-deep in anxiety before he ever crossed the county line headed back to Salida!

He learned from his unsuspecting spies that nothing was going his way -- CCSO was not buying the bike wreck or the lion attack. He'd have to quickly turn up the heat on the abduction theory!

No wonder it took BM until 9 pm to show up.

MOO
 
LMAO not sure if this is allowed, but I just started reading the scott peterson decision and I couldnt help but be in awe of the striking similarities between Scott and BM's behavior

"According to Spurlock and Officer Derrick Letsinger, Peterson gave slow and initially noncommittal answers. He “really didn’t give a responsive time” and, when asked what he was fishing for, paused, gave a blank look, and “mumbled some stuff” without really answering. Peterson likewise responded with a blank look when asked about his lure, but after some delay came up with a size and color description" pg 5.

I felt like I had deja vu reading that.
 
JMO
Premeditated or Crime of Passion or a 3rd option which is the one I am going with. A combination of both.

I too have been flip-flopping on whether this has been premeditated and I finally settled on that I think it was a combination.

Purely speculating here but what I think happened was SM was realizing now that one of the girls was pretty much on her own and the other one was soon to follow, that SM began to realize she was not happy there in Colorado not being by any close family members of her own.

I think some smaller discussions have been brewing for a little while now and BM began to fantasize in the months prior that rather than divorce and lose 1/2 of the worth of the house in Colorado and 1/2 of whatever else was available, he began tossing around the idea of offing her to get total control of all assets.

In the beginning of those thoughts, I dont think he was all that serious, but as time went on and things looked like it might be really heading that way, then he began to think more seriously about it.

Then when the stars aligned in his eyes where the children were out of town that weekend and SM was all by herself, then maybe a serious argument verbal fight occurred and BM lost it and acted upon his prior thoughts.

So a sort of combination of preplanning but not real serious until it got serious and an argument/fight made him act on his prior thoughts.
 
Just to play devils advocate, technically premeditation may only take a few minutes. States vary by length of time so I looked it up and Colorado law says

"While deliberation requires that design to kill precede killing, length of time required for deliberation need not be long; what is required for deliberation is that decision to kill be made after exercise of reflection and judgment concerning act." "People v Bartowsheski (1983, Colo) 661 P2d 235.

They dont specifically define it, but it could be just a few minutes. That being said I honestly dont know how I feel. There are alot of things that seemed to really line up for BM coincidentally, and it seems hard to believe it just happened that way. On the other hand, his total failure to answer basic questions about the situation makes it seem like this wasn't really well thought out. He didnt seem to consider LE might not just take his word for it when he gives them an alibi or shares information...so Im not getting the vibe this was a master plan. Truly I could be convinced either way. Im sure as more time passes, he'll reveal more secrets of all the bad decision making that went on
I think BM’s inflated sense of self and mistaken belief in his cerebral superiority allowed him to believe with out a doubt, that the narrative he was going spin for LE, the family and friends, the church and the general public would be gobbled up hook, line and sinker. He never thought the whole thing through because he didn’t think he had to. That’s how utterly arrogant he is. Bad, bad miscalculation Barry! :rolleyes:

I still think premeditated and not just on the day of the wicked deed. I believe LE are doing their best to secure a first degree murder charge. “Whoever” committed this deed, deserves nothing less. I wish LE all the best in their endeavours!! JMHO.
 
Can "we" find out, if BM did sell equipment/construction vehicles before the movement to CO in 2018?
Has anyone looked at the photos published by DM of the 3 day job site dig and spotted the bobcat in the far right of the photos? Does that match the bobcat that was caution taped in the M driveway during the search?
 
Could be she discovered something, or figured something out. Mentioning it to him might have been deadly, without any emotion at all. Just a thought and MOO.
Yeah. I’ve thought that maybe she learned of an affair, or they had an argument related to finances.

I think something big happened, perhaps something that had never happened before.
 
I think BM’s inflated sense of self and mistaken belief in his cerebral superiority allowed him to believe with out a doubt, that the narrative he was going spin for LE, the family and friends, the church and the general public would be gobbled up hook, line and sinker. He never thought the whole thing through because he didn’t think he had to. That’s how utterly arrogant he is. Bad, bad miscalculation Barry! :rolleyes:

I still think premeditated and not just on the day of the wicked deed. I believe LE are doing their best to secure a first degree murder charge. “Whoever” committed this deed, deserves nothing less. I wish LE all the best in their endeavours!! JMHO.
I think they'll need to find her body and/or some really good evidence that he did something to her. Of course, lying to LE is a pretty good indicator for openers.
 
I think this case fits a common profile of a certain era. Here, SM and BM married young almost 30 years ago. Fast forward 2020 and I speculate and suspect the accepted, controlling behavior and narc rage were finally being questioned-- most likely by a newer generation.

We do better when we know better.

After recovering from cancer, I think SM very much preferred to grow old with an empathetic partner. I also think she did not want her daughters to make the mistakes she made.

BM did not want to play by new rules. That was never going to happen.

MOO
Yes, I think BM enjoyed perpetuating and being perceived as having an old fashioned 1950s type marriage. If SM was happy and fulfilled there’s not a thing wrong with that. IMO that’s what it looked like from the outside looking in to his friends but maybe not behind closed doors. Maybe not on recent years anyway. JMO

"That [family structure] where the husband loves being the provider and the wife loves being the homemaker— they fit that to a T," longtime friend Jeff Isles tells PEOPLE in this week's issue.

Friends Say Missing Colo. Mom Suzanne Morphew and Husband Barry Seemed Like ‘Good, Model Family’


Skinner is a family friend and has known Barry since middle school. He visited the family twice after they moved to their Colorado home in Maysville. He described the family as a perfect family.

“They were the modern day little house on the prairie, I mean everyone got along in that family.”

Two months into search for missing Chaffee County mother, investigators “aggressively working this case” | FOX21 News Colorado
 
JMO
Premeditated or Crime of Passion or a 3rd option which is the one I am going with. A combination of both.

I too have been flip-flopping on whether this has been premeditated and I finally settled on that I think it was a combination.

Purely speculating here but what I think happened was SM was realizing now that one of the girls was pretty much on her own and the other one was soon to follow, that SM began to realize she was not happy there in Colorado not being by any close family members of her own.

I think some smaller discussions have been brewing for a little while now and BM began to fantasize in the months prior that rather than divorce and lose 1/2 of the worth of the house in Colorado and 1/2 of whatever else was available, he began tossing around the idea of offing her to get total control of all assets.

In the beginning of those thoughts, I dont think he was all that serious, but as time went on and things looked like it might be really heading that way, then he began to think more seriously about it.

Then when the stars aligned in his eyes where the children were out of town that weekend and SM was all by herself, then maybe a serious argument verbal fight occurred and BM lost it and acted upon his prior thoughts.

So a sort of combination of preplanning but not real serious until it got serious and an argument/fight made him act on his prior thoughts.

I tend toward thinking premeditation and the time to get it done had run out because I think it was likely there was a third party with whom BM was involved who had reached her limit and told him it was time to fish or cut bait.

Why do I think that? The timing. My guess is that third party did NOT want BM spending Mother's Day honoring SM and had told him to do so would threaten his ongoing relationship with her (that third party). Thus, the arrangements: (1) to have the girls spending the days before Mother's Day away, (2) to kill SM and conceal her remains the night before Mother's Day, and (3) to distance himself hours away from Salida for nearly all of Mother's Day with conflicting stories about where exactly he was (first, a firefighter training session; and when that story failed, preparation of a job site for a crew showing up that night for work the next day) and with a plan to suggest to concerned others how SM might have fallen into danger due to her own actions in his absence.

I would be very curious to know whether the delay in the girls' return on Mother's Day was in some way orchestrated by BM so that it would be a neighbor, rather than their daughters, who would discover SM's absence in person and to whom BM might suggest the bike ride story.

I keep coming back to what Mike and Chris on Profiling Evil say about victim risk assessment. In most respects, SM was on the low risk end of the potential victim continuum: upper middle class, college-educated, longtime married to high school sweetheart with nearly full grown children, healthy extended family relationships, close personal friends, participation in community of faith, and a grateful recurrent cancer survivor.

However, IMO, certain risk factors had recently increased and they nearly all incurred at BM's insistence and all made her more vulnerable to him in particular:
  1. Move away from lifetime home and family in IN;
  2. Move to CO, (more than 18 hours driving time away), where SM did not have her own long-established friends, family, or medical providers;
  3. Move into home on large property in very sparsely-populated area, with poor cellphone service and with no landline to ensure alternate and reliable means of communication;
  4. Despite the vulnerability associated with the home’s isolation, do not make operational the surveillance cameras that came with that home when purchased (IIRC, the guys at Profiling Evil pointed this out. There were cameras there, but they weren’t functional);
  5. Arrange for and support the plans of daughters – older teen and college-aged - to be away from home with a family member of BM for days prior to and on the night SM was last seen or heard from by anyone other than BM;
  6. Arrange for BM to be distant from home on the day after SM was last heard from by anyone other than BM and have a story that explains the need for that distance (first, the supposed firefighter training, and later, the job in Denver that needed setup on May 10);
  7. Suggest to the neighbor who finds SM missing from home (after checking at request of absent family members) a plausible time and means for SM to have left the home and been in an area where someone other than BM might have been involved in her disappearance (a morning bike ride on Mother’s Day). By that suggestion, BM potentially misdirects LE away from the home and ensures that LE will have to consider “the bike ride alone” a probability to be addressed among the realm of possibilities.
IMO, numbers 1 – 3 were most likely done to separate SM from the close support of her family/friend network with the plan of BM either regaining control he believed he had lost over SM or BM eventually separating from her without having to face the disappointment and potential disapproval of all those who knew and had grown up with both of them; however, 4 – 7 were done to permit and to conceal a more criminal and (self-serving) particular means of getting rid of SM, while retaining reputation as well as shared relationships and finances.
 
The hypothetical in my mind for premeditated, is that near to, or on that weekend, she casually made a slip about something. Or, a more pointed statement along the lines of “I know what you did last summer”. He may not have reacted at all, but that was the beginning of the end. His current chess with LE and maybe the family too, would involve him not know who else it was divulged to. MOO.
 
I think BM’s inflated sense of self and mistaken belief in his cerebral superiority allowed him to believe with out a doubt, that the narrative he was going spin for LE, the family and friends, the church and the general public would be gobbled up hook, line and sinker. He never thought the whole thing through because he didn’t think he had to. That’s how utterly arrogant he is. Bad, bad miscalculation Barry! :rolleyes:

I still think premeditated and not just on the day of the wicked deed. I believe LE are doing their best to secure a first degree murder charge. “Whoever” committed this deed, deserves nothing less. I wish LE all the best in their endeavours!! JMHO.
I agree wholeheartedly. God, I wish I could live my life with the confidence and self assurance of a married upper middle class white man in the the midst of a mid life crisis. Ive tried to imagine how that conversation went in his head, the one where he thought this was a good idea and the one where he thought he could outsmart LE and to be honest I cannot even relate to that sort of thought process. How is this easier then a divorce? Or even just communicating with your spouse that your unhappy? How did this idea even pop into his head?.... Maybe it was the kind of thing that sounded really good in his head, but in practice was a terrible plan... I mean we've all had that day
 
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JMO
Premeditated or Crime of Passion or a 3rd option which is the one I am going with. A combination of both.

I too have been flip-flopping on whether this has been premeditated and I finally settled on that I think it was a combination.

Purely speculating here but what I think happened was SM was realizing now that one of the girls was pretty much on her own and the other one was soon to follow, that SM began to realize she was not happy there in Colorado not being by any close family members of her own.

I think some smaller discussions have been brewing for a little while now and BM began to fantasize in the months prior that rather than divorce and lose 1/2 of the worth of the house in Colorado and 1/2 of whatever else was available, he began tossing around the idea of offing her to get total control of all assets.

In the beginning of those thoughts, I dont think he was all that serious, but as time went on and things looked like it might be really heading that way, then he began to think more seriously about it.

Then when the stars aligned in his eyes where the children were out of town that weekend and SM was all by herself, then maybe a serious argument verbal fight occurred and BM lost it and acted upon his prior thoughts.

So a sort of combination of preplanning but not real serious until it got serious and an argument/fight made him act on his prior thoughts.

I agree with you. Im not a crime expert by any means, but I think typically there is a lot of fantasizing going on before a murder.
I think those seeds sprouted and took hold of him. I think he may have been surprised at himself. He probably blames Suzanne for the course that he feels he had to take. Moo
 
Yeah. I’ve thought that maybe she learned of an affair, or they had an argument related to finances.

I think something big happened, perhaps something that had never happened before.
I’ve thought there was some premeditation going on. Maybe he wanted to move her to CO away from her support system so he could hide her body. He likely was cheating on her. But if so, I think LE has talked to his gf by now.
 
I keep thinking about her phone.

The perp definitely faced a huge conundrum with regard to SM's phone.

I wish we knew whether or not her phone was left back at the house when she went on her (cough) "bike ride."

If it wasn't found at the house, I think the odds are extremely high that the perp screwed up royally somehow with his actions related to her cell phone.

JMO.
 
I keep thinking about her phone.

The perp definitely faced a huge conundrum with regard to SM's phone.

I wish we knew whether or not her phone was left back at the house when she went on her (cough) "bike ride."

If it wasn't found at the house, I think the odds are extremely high that the perp screwed up royally somehow with his actions related to her cell phone.

JMO.
Those phones always come back to bite the perps, don’t they?
 
SBM
Move into home on large property in very sparsely-populated area, with poor cellphone service and with no landline to ensure alternate and reliable means of communication;
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I don't know how they lived in Indiana, ie whether or not it was in a normal suburb with houses fairly close together? Convenience store a few blocks away? Mall on the highway? Family near by?

Many people who are used to having close neighbors, fences, good cell service, a tv in every room and a big screen in the living, all of the benefits of normal life in the USA.....when they move to the real country, undeveloped, where it's VERY quiet at night, where a neighbor can't be summoned with a call over the back fence....where there are wild animals around that may not have been part of their previous life....

This can be very stressful to people not used to living in an isolated area. And I don't mean just to women. Some people tend to use any excuse they can to "go to town" even if it means leaving the spouse alone a lot.

Really I've seen it close up. Any excuse to go to town even if it's a 30 mile RT twice a day to get a hinge for a door or well, whatever. And in this case I'm talking about a guy not used to living isolated.
 
I keep thinking about her phone.

The perp definitely faced a huge conundrum with regard to SM's phone.

I wish we knew whether or not her phone was left back at the house when she went on her (cough) "bike ride."

If it wasn't found at the house, I think the odds are extremely high that the perp screwed up royally somehow with his actions related to her cell phone.

JMO.
I'm always thinking about the SW for the home site in Salida. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that SM's phone or remnants of the phone were found in the dumpster on-site or buried on the property. MOO
 
I'm always thinking about the SW for the home site in Salida. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that SM's phone or remnants of the phone were found in the dumpster on-site or buried on the property. MOO
As much as I hope they do have Suzanne’s phone, it’s not the end of the world if they don’t.

They’ll be able to piece things together using other people’s phones (that friend she was allegedly texting for one).

Then there’s phone company records, Google, Facebook, etc.

That would be another damning piece of evidence if her phone was destroyed. No reason for a random abductor to do anything with her phone, other than disposing of it if she had it on her person.
 
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