Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #29

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Bequeathed Real Est in IN?? Death of Spouse?
@marylamby are you asking -- who gets it, a partial property interest in a real est parcel, either w or w'out home?
Repeating: One point to bear in mind: A couple may enter a pre- nuptial (or post-) agreement, to set terms for property division on separation, divorce, or death, or all three, so the st. prop laws may not apply w those events.

This post relates to (hypothetical) DEATH. IN law. From nolo again.
"Many valuable assets don’t go through your will and aren’t affected by intestate succession laws. Here are some examples:
  • property you’ve transferred to a living trust
  • life insurance proceeds
  • funds in an IRA, 401(k), or other retirement account
  • securities held in a transfer-on-death account
  • real estate held by transfer-on-death deed
  • vehicles held by transfer-on-death registration
  • payable-on-death bank accounts, or
  • property you own with someone else in joint tenancy or tenancy by the entirety. [like this prop?]
"These assets will pass to the surviving co-owner or to the beneficiary you named, whether or not you have a will." bbm
"Under intestate succession, who gets what depends on whether or not you have living children, parents, or other close relatives when you die. Here’s a quick overview: ...." See chart at link, and sections on spouse's share and children's shares.
From: Intestate Succession in Indiana at nolo.com.

As always, welcoming comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from members of our legal profession. jm2cts.
Damn girl, I'm going to have to put you on the payroll! You're on fire (and I'm 5 pages behind, thus far)!
I'm hoping so much that she made her daughters beneficiaries of her personal assets.
BTW, I'm trying to grasp all of your info and links (I'm saving it all until I'm cognizant).
And here I used to think I was somewhat smaaaat. o_O

Thank you so much again! You da bomb! :)
 
This got me thinking. I think most people hold out some hope in a situation like this, and don’t want to face reality.

Instead, we have Barry saying that he believes his wife was attacked by a mountain lion, and is obviously now dead.

Mountain lion attacks are rare. Fatal mountain lion attacks are much rarer. Here, Barry would have us believe that a mountain lion attacked Suzanne, left no trace of an attack, dragged her body away, and all those law enforcement and family searches missed her.

Oh, and this mountain lion threw her bike off a ledge.

He’s an experienced outdoorsman, and knows that this scenario is not only implausible, it’s impossible.

But it creates doubt, and turns the focus away from him. It also gives him an out from all the criticism he is facing.

“I’m looking for where the mountain lion took her,” or something. “I’m doing all I can.”

BS

I'm sorry, but "Oh, and this mountain lion threw her bike off a ledge." made me LOL!

I agree and with all of the other 'stories' makes you wonder if he told some people one thing and others another and LE yet another just to scatter the masses. Divide and conquer on an intermediate school level.
I do believe he was misguiding people where to look and did organize his friends and BIL's searches.
One thing I've learned about liars is that their ability to cause confusion can often work.
Likely works on their wives too, until it doesn't.
 
I can see both sides of the polygraph issue, but at the end of the day it's the optics to both the family and to LE, if someone refuses to take one.

It absolutely looks like the person has something to hide, that doesn't want uncovered by a polygraph or voice analyses test. It doesn't even matter if they do or not, it's what it looks like.

And then... if they lie, and say they were never even asked, or lie and say they took one and passed... that's (to me) even more reason to believe they do in fact have something to hide.

jmo
Heyyyyy congrats on joining the Mod Squad!
 
BM cannot nor will not commit to such tests. I'd wager a very large bet that the main reasons for him refusing to be on camera for the LS "interview" are twofold:
1). he cannot afford to show his body language on camera because it would be so incriminating;
2). he needed to refer to copious notes to maintain some consistency in his various accounts, plus have cue cards that would help him address vexing Q's, as posited by the public.
So as to avoid rustling papers that would be audible to Lauren, he could arrange details of the content and flow of his responses on a table in front of him and read from them as though he was speaking spontaneously.
The added advantage of this system is being able to rehearse beforehand. Being in front of a camera would deny him the opportunity to do this. Controlling the situation to his benefit is of paramount importance to BM, IMO.
I guarantee his lawyer told him to never, ever get in front of a camera again.
 
This got me thinking. I think most people hold out some hope in a situation like this, and don’t want to face reality.

Instead, we have Barry saying that he believes his wife was attacked by a mountain lion, and is obviously now dead. What’s really insane, is that he’s been saying that since day one.

Mountain lion attacks are rare. Fatal mountain lion attacks are much rarer. Here, Barry would have us believe that a mountain lion attacked Suzanne, left no trace of an attack, dragged her body away, and all those law enforcement and family searches missed her.

Oh, and this mountain lion threw her bike off a ledge.

He’s an experienced outdoorsman, and knows that this scenario is not only implausible, it’s impossible.

But it creates doubt, and turns the focus away from him. It also gives him an out from all the criticism he is facing.

“I’m looking for where the mountain lion took her,” or something. “I’m doing all I can.”

BS

“Oh, and this mountain lion threw her bike off a ledge.” You made me spit out my morning coffee. :p

And the message to the church mentioned that a mountain lion had been seen in the area where the bike was discovered. He was spreading that story quickly. Wasn’t too soon for that. o_O
 
Also impressive was Andy’s own knowledge of hunting. I cringed when he compared it to a hunt, but it made sense.

If a stranger on the bike trail had intended to rob or harm Suzanne, they would take her jewelry and/or harm her, but they would have likely left her body behind. Get what they need and get out.

>edit for spelling
Yes, if it was a robbery, they'd leave her body there, most likely.
If it was a sexual predator, they'd possibly move her to a private area, but would still leave her behind. Especially if they were strangers to her. JMO
 
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Too many to count. It’s the reason that families complain when their cases don’t get the kind of attention that other cases get. It brings forth witnesses, convinces people to step forward to do the right thing, generates tips, results in people checking their camera systems, and turns up the heat on law enforcement organizations that may be dragging their feet.

Look no further than the Vanessa Guillen case for an example of the latter.

The Profiling Evil guys touched on this, and how the public tends to help law enforcement solve crimes. Not by doing their work for them, but giving them the information they need.

This is why in just about every missing persons case ever, family members get in front of the camera.

Stauch, Berreth, Guillen, Tibbetts; the list goes on and on. This is unprecedented, at least when we’re talking about an innocent spouse.

Yes, and even when the spouse is not innocent, the media can help LE solve the case.

That jaw dropping interview of a smirking Christ Watts, standing on his porch, while police were searching his home, is a prime example. The news reporters sensed something was way off with his demeanour, so they kept the interviews going, did some close ups, and the interviews were a turning point for many people.

The public saw through him pretty quickly. And so did the detectives. I saw an interview with one of the investigators, and when they saw his demeanour on the newscast, they saw some real red flags.
 
Reasons why someone doesn't want to show their face or have their voice recorded:

- insecure
- afraid of being recognized

That's all I have. Anyone else?

It may just boil down to Barry needing to have control. He wants to control the narrative and the more control over what is seen and heard from him, the more control he thinks he has.

I think that’s also why he can’t sit back and remain 100% quiet.

I think the approach of AM and various other sources becoming more vocal about the case it eating away as BM’s controlling nature.
 
Reasons why someone doesn't want to show their face or have their voice recorded:

- insecure
- afraid of being recognized

That's all I have. Anyone else?
I go with the latter. Not sure why it puzzles me, it makes some sense if he thinks someone saw or heard him on the evening in question. Maybe it's the voice part that's weird. Not sure. All MOO.
 
It may just boil down to Barry needing to have control. He wants to control the narrative and the more control over what is seen and heard from him, the more control he thinks he has.

I think that’s also why he can’t sit back and remain 100% quiet.

I think the approach of AM and various other sources becoming more vocal about the case it eating away as BM’s controlling nature.
Hadn't thought of that. Thank you!
 
Reasons why someone doesn't want to show their face or have their voice recorded:

- insecure
- afraid of being recognized

That's all I have. Anyone else?
They don't want their interviews to be scrutinised by experts, using voice stress analysis, and/or reading body language and facial clues, when they are speaking ?
 
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