CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #3

[ATasteOfHoney]

I don't think that's a US name for the drug:
http://www.drugs.com/international/laroxyl.html

Doesn't matter, can be bought over the internet....

 

[concernedmother]

Is juicing mixing different veggies together and blending them? Sorry but havent heard of it. Would it be something easy to slip something in that would disguise the taste?

 

[Ravynne]

I guess we don't know the answer to that yet. Wasn't there another post about texting an instructor? I wouldn't think you would be on texting basis if it was a large class or college class? (I don't know, I don't text nor take classes in a texting era.)

Yes, I recall in an earlier blog there was, but it was M taking the day off. Either way I thought it was a bit odd and took note.

 

[21merc7]

Is juicing mixing different veggies together and blending them? Sorry but havent heard of it. Would it be something easy to slip something in that would disguise the taste?

Yes, and yes, well maybe on the taste. If you used a lot of strong flavors, like a lot of garlic. I think Mom says M was using fruit, so I take that 2nd yes back.

 

[nursebeeme]

I could be wrong, but I think that originally they really didn't question the death, and accepted "natural causes." But later, someone suggested that it may have been murder. At that point they pushed to have the ME reexamine the findings and it was determined to be "suicide".

Someone, please correct me if I am wrong.

there was a link provided by Gitana eariler upstream where mom tells the media she knew immediately it was murder

that being said...

on the radio show mom said to tricia that she didn't know something was off until the PER came back with the drug levels around a month after the death (4-6 weeks)

she challenged the drug levels

she claims that she was threatened to leave it be

she says the additional testing was then done in June (on top of initial tox from the PER) and the MOD was updated to Suicide.

Somewhere in there the enlistment of the other forensic specialist took place(Dr. Dobberson)

that report came out the last week or so ago


(the nails finding also falls in there at the viewing which happened before the PER came out of course)

:moo::twocents::moo::twocents:

 

[nursebeeme]

does anyone recall if the Mother has said when the cremation took place? iirc the funeral was four days after the death (link is upstream.. found on the 2nd and funeral iirc was on the 6th)

I would imagine that it took place shortly after that?

but I don't know.

 

[21merc7]

does anyone recall if the Mother has said when the cremation took place? iirc the funeral was four days after the death (link is upstream.. found on the 2nd and funeral iirc was on the 6th)

I would imagine that it took place shortly after that?

but I don't know.

Not sure. Guess it depends if the funeral was open casket, which it probably was not, considering. With my sister it was before, but no casket, just an urn. If it was after, it would be as soon as the crematorium could do it, probably that day.

 

[ChunkyMonkey]

Not sure. Guess it depends if the funeral was open casket, which it probably was not, considering. With my sister it was before, but no casket, just an urn. If it was after, it would be as soon as the crematorium could do it, probably that day.

It was open casket. Mom said so on the blog. Remember, Mom's sister (or another relative?) noticed that three of M's nails on her right had were "torn or cut" at a weird angle, and brought it up to Mom.

 

[Ravynne]

does anyone recall if the Mother has said when the cremation took place? iirc the funeral was four days after the death (link is upstream.. found on the 2nd and funeral iirc was on the 6th)

I would imagine that it took place shortly after that?

but I don't know.

I don't recall the mention of when they had th cremation done, if she noticed fingernails at the viewing then it had to be open casket...

I would have thought they would have had to wait for toxicology results before doing it, I mean just in case.

 

[MayraMM]

I guess we don't know the answer to that yet. Wasn't there another post about texting an instructor? I wouldn't think you would be on texting basis if it was a large class or college class? (I don't know, I don't text nor take classes in a texting era.)

I thought she had decided against academic classes that last term and was taking 2 classes of ballet a day instead, taking a break was what her mom said, I believe.

 

[21merc7]

I thought she had decided against academic classes that last term and was taking 2 classes of ballet a day instead, taking a break was what her mom said, I believe.

Okay, so not in college. Must be a private class.

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't recall the mention of when they had th cremation done, if she noticed fingernails at the viewing then it had to be open casket...

I would have thought they would have had to wait for toxicology results before doing it, I mean just in case.

I am just guessing here but I think it was done before the PER came out.

On the radio show she said it was open casket. She said that is where they noticed the fingernails cut on an angle.

 

[MayraMM]

Mayraa...mom said m was juicing in the mornings. She went out to eat at night with her parents quite often.

I juice in the mornings.

You're right, but I keep going back to several posts where M refused dinner. They'd ask if they could bring her a salad or meet at a restaurant, and she'd say no. I knew some ballet dancers and they were fanatic about their weights. She may have been juicing more than mom knew.

And for the folks confused, I can see why you'd be confused. Some people refer to taking anabolic steroids as juicing. But, in this case, I'm talking more the hippie, health fanatic, workout guru juicing, which is organic fruits often mixed with veggies and run thru a juicer so you get not only the liquid, but the fiber. It can get quite intricate in what fruits and veggies you mix and when, and yes, juicing with garlic and onion are done too. THAT's intense!

 

[nursebeeme]

everything you every wanted to know about a juicer:
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicer"]Juicer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


mister nurse got me one for mother's day. I have never used it

 

[MayraMM]

Okay, so not in college. Must be a private class.

Private or group classes at a local studio, perhaps. Texting the teacher might imply private lessons, but that would just be a supposition.

 

[MayraMM]

everything you every wanted to know about a juicer:
Juicer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


mister nurse got me one for mother's day. I have never used it

I bought a juicer, tried it for about a week and felt so horrible I haven't used it since. It's definitely not intended for working out and juicing exclusively.

I keep meaning to use mine to make smoothies, but never get around to it. It's a dust gatherer now. :banghead:

 

[Ravynne]

I am just guessing here but I think it was done before the PER came out.

On the radio show she said it was open casket. She said that is where they noticed the fingernails cut on an angle.

Thanks, Im tryin but it doesnt Make sense to me.... If things are beginning to not add up why go through with it.. I cannot imagine the situation and the emotions involved.. I'm just trying to look at it In a neutral third party kinda way. It just don't make sense to cremate with suspicion building, before results.

 

[nursebeeme]

Thanks, Im tryin but it doesnt Make sense to me.... If things are beginning to not add up why go through with it.. I cannot imagine the situation and the emotions involved.. I'm just trying to look at it In a neutral third party kinda way. It just don't make sense to cremate with suspicion building, before results.

I don't think it makes much sense to a lot of people.

Mom, on the radio show, said it was her biggest mistake.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Having had so much loss in my life I really feel for the Ingrams. I haven't been posting my thoughts recently out of respect for their grief and I am still waiting to see what other details they have.

I do know that every suicide that I have personally known of, was questioned as to the possibility it may have been murder.

I also know from having a home invasion and a peeping tom, that every noise that I hear at night doesn't go ignored by me.

The other night, i heard a lot of banging around out back and spent a good fifteen minutes looking out all my windows until I finally saw a family of raccoons in the neighbors yard.

Raising a daughter who is now grown, I also am quite aware of how teens can be jealous and cruel to one another. Teens will also sneak friends in the house at night or sneak out of the house to hang out with friends.

I am wondering if Morgans fear of the "stalker" was more than her parents, or was she more relaxed about it. Sometimes as parents we are more aware of dangers that may happen and teens will brush them off because as i remember, I felt pretty invincible as a teen.

Ultimately, I want the Ingrams to find peace. I don't know if that will come with acceptance of the fact that Morgan may have committed suicide or that there will be enough evidence to prove that a crime has been committed.

Whatever the outcome, I am sending hugs to you as I know that you are in pain with the loss of your precious daughter.

 

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