Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #7

[jjenny]

From what I understand, she went on many "mini-vacations." She was still relatively young, social and wanted, presumably, to have a good time.
Which is not easy with a son who has issues and is living in her basement.

 

[gngr~snap]

So, she went to a spa and not to look for a facility for AL? I am not familiar with Bretton Woods so I didn't think of that trip as a vacation. Do we know how long ago she was diagnosed with MS? ty

Is it possible the "MS" story was her seeking treatment for him instead of her?
Maybe she told some people she was seeing doctors?
Maybe she told the killer that as well (at first)

jmo

 

[ami]

He has a brother and a father. Surely the father will arrange a cremation or burial.

Oh they'll take care of his remains out of familial duty, I've no doubt, but they were estranged from him and barely knew him to begin with, so my guess is that, as I said, his mother was the only person who really cared about him and the only person who would have genuinely cared about the disposition of his remains. Had he not killed her first.

 

[twall]

While catching up on my local news I learned something new

Indiana is only state to require certain safety certification in schools
1,100 safety specialists work in 300 districts

http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/indian...e-certain-safety-certification-in-schools-dbl

I asked my 8yo 2nd grader if her classroom was locked all the time during school hours and she said yes. I also asked her what would she do if she saw a person with a gun shooting towards her direction and she said "RUN!" and then I asked her "what if you were in the classroom and there was nowhere to run to?" and she said "I don't know" I told her to drop to the floor and play dead. My dh was giving me "the look" as to not involve her in these types of conversations (he is they type who doesn't want to talk about anything). He then said "I wish we didn't have to have these types of conversations" and I said "me either but I would like for her to be aware of what to do if the situation ever arises." He then agreed with me!

 

[Lois Lane]

'Light amidst the darkness': Heroic teacher Victoria Soto remembered

By Tracy Connor, Sandra Lilley and Tom Winter, NBC News

One of Newtown’s heroic teachers – remembered as a bright light on the darkest of days – was laid to rest Wednesday, with family friend Paul Simon performing the folk song “Sound of Silence.”

Mourners who arrived at a church in Stratford, Conn., for Victoria Soto’s funeral were handed ribbons of green, her favorite color.

Funerals were held Wednesday for three more first-graders -- Charlotte Bacon, Caroline Previdi and Daniel Barden – continuing a week of mourning.

Later on Wednesday, hundreds of Newtown residents attended a wake for Sandy Hook Principal Dawn Hochsprung, 47, who has been hailed as a hero for running toward the sound of gunfire after Lanza blasted his way into the school.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-heroic-teacher-victoria-soto-remembered?lite

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/paul+simon/sounds+of+silence_20559740.html

 

[21merc7]

From what I understand, she went on many "mini-vacations." She was still relatively young, social and wanted, presumably, to have a good time.
Which is not easy with a son who has issues and is living in her basement.

And, it sounds as if she just started minivactions this year. She was most likely just finally recovering from the divorce. She probably never noticed her son getting worse for a couple of years. I wouldn't have, I'd still be in all kinds of emotional mess. I do hope she got to actually go on a few minivacations just for herself and not just to seek help for her son.

 

[mck16]

Oh they'll take care of his remains out of familial duty, I've no doubt, but they were estranged from him and barely knew him to begin with, so my guess is that, as I said, his mother was the only person who really cared about him and the only person who would have genuinely cared about the disposition of his remains. Had he not killed her first.

I heard on the news today can't remember if it was HLN or CIN that until 2010 his father visited him weekly. ty

 

[mck16]

And, it sounds as if she just started minivactions this year. She was most likely just finally recovering from the divorce. She probably never noticed her son getting worse for a couple of years. I wouldn't have, I'd still be in all kinds of emotional mess. I do hope she got to actually go on a few minivacations just for herself and not just to seek help for her son.

Not sure but they had been estranged since 2001 and divorced since 2008. From what I can gather they had not been together for a long time. If these dates are wrong please correct me. ty

 

[twall]

I'd bet a mortgage company owns their $1.5 million home and therefore, it won't be donated to any individuals or charitable causes.

I don't believe the house is worth that much. NG exaggerates.

 

[Pensfan]

From what I understand, she went on many "mini-vacations." She was still relatively young, social and wanted, presumably, to have a good time.
Which is not easy with a son who has issues and is living in her basement.

Yes, caretakers should get vacations, but why would Nancy take a vacation at THIS time? Nancy told individuals that her son wasn't speaking with her, she felt she was losing him, and his condition was getting worse. IMO, it's not logical that she would go on a vacation at this time.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Why did Nancy, a dedicated mother according to everyone that knew her, decide to go on a spa vacation at a time she said she was "losing her son" and he wasn't talking to her?

Maybe she became scared of Axxx and she fled to Bretton Woods hoping that when she returned he wouldn't be as frightening?

Boyfriend?

 

[gngr~snap]

Boyfriend?

I hope so!

 

[thistle]

I don't consider 2 days a vacation, it's more of a reprieve...I don't think we'll ever really know what transpired between the 2 of them, we only know the outcome...

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Not sure but they had been estranged since 2001 and divorced since 2008. From what I can gather they had not been together for a long time. If these dates are wrong please correct me. ty

Yep - that's the way I heard and read it too. PL moved out in 2001. Divorce final in 2008. He remarried in 2009.

So AL was 9 when PL moved out. That's pretty young. AL was 16 when the divorce was final. Did PL visit weekly for all those years? What about holidays? Christmas - birthdays? Its hard to know what PL knew or saw or what was discussed with him concerning AL and any or all of his "conditions".

Plus money - finances - we're never an issue here. NL didn't work. Hadn't worked since she married PL. What did she do all day? We've heard about her doing "charity work" - but nothing specific. She liked to garden - but all day, every day? What did she do to occupy her time?

As for the charity work - I've wondered if maybe she had been helping with getting the low-socioeconomic families school supplies, kids clothes, kids winter coats? Maybe that might have been the connection to the school? IDK. I'm just very curious as to what she did every day, all day in that big house with AL down in the basement.



JMHO

 

[Lois Lane]

Shattered Newtown tries to make sense of tragedy

By By DAVID KLEPPER, Associated Press

NEWTOWN, Conn. — One by one by one by one, each with fresh heartbreak, hearses crisscrossed two New England towns on Wednesday, bearing three tiny victims of the Sandy Hook school massacre and a heroic teacher in a seemingly never-ending series of funeral processions.

"The first few days, all you heard were helicopters," said Dr. Joseph Young, an optometrist who attended one funeral and would go to several more. "Now at my office all I hear is the rumble of motorcycle escorts and funeral processions going back and forth throughout the day."

As more victims from the slaughter of 20 children and six adults were laid to rest, long funeral processions clogged the streets of Newtown, where Christmas trees were turned into memorials and a season that should be a time of joy was marked by heart-wrenching loss.

At least nine funerals and wakes were held on Wednesday for those who died when gunman Adam Lanza, armed with a military-style assault rifle, broke into the school last Friday and opened fire on their classrooms. Lanza also killed his mother at her home before committing suicide.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...aiOtIg?docId=7c178df6e7674f079593daf36d9e64a8

 

[ami]

I heard on the news today can't remember if it was HLN or CIN that until 2010 his father visited him weekly. ty

Interesting. I wonder (if that's true, so hard to know in this case even with MSM sources) if something happened. Cutting off even an unresponsive son from once a week to nothing is a pretty big deal. I wonder why.

Also... NL seems like a lonely woman to me. I don't begrudge her the vacations and small amount of adult conversation she seemed to find in the pizza place and chatting to the landscaper. Her husband was gone, married to another woman, her eldest son flew the nest and was making his own way, and she was left in a huge house with an almost non-responsive son who nevertheless required a lot of attention and time. I hope she found some joy in the vacation before she was killed.

 

[Anna1964]

That would be great and would stop many lawsuits filed against her estate imo.
On one of the many shows I have watched on this subject someone raised the question as to whether or not the surviving victims and families of those victims that did not survive could sue NL's estate and they said yes, it is very possible that will happen in the future since she was the gun owner.

This is probably not helpful because it doesn't concern suing an estate, but I do know when we had a school shooting suits were filed against the parents and relatives for negligence for having unsecured guns. They were dismissed.Remington was also sued for not having trigger locks. Also dismissed.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Yes, caretakers should get vacations, but why would Nancy take a vacation at THIS time? Nancy told individuals that her son wasn't speaking with her, she felt she was losing him, and his condition was getting worse. IMO, it's not logical that she would go on a vacation at this time.

agreed

 

[jjenny]

Yes, caretakers should get vacations, but why would Nancy take a vacation at THIS time? Nancy told individuals that her son wasn't speaking with her, she felt she was losing him, and his condition was getting worse. IMO, it's not logical that she would go on a vacation at this time.

His condition getting worse apparently consisted of him sitting in his basement and not talking to her.

 

[CuriousGuy]