Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #10

[What if...]

As long as it mostly stayed in China I felt like some here still do. But it’s spread pretty fast despite our pandemic response system. That’s concerning. Plus all the statements from epidemiologists, experts from the WHO, etc.


Still it’s very low in the US. I can only hope it stays that way.

I share that same hope!!


But I believe it would be nothing short of denial to not be prepared to expect the same level of outbreak experienced by China. I think we’ll see similar outcomes worldwide as this first (and hopefully last) viral wave circles the globe.

I hope we see better results in the way it is managed and mitigated, but the potential for the same volume percentage of infection is unchanged.

I am hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

For the vast majority, I believe this will be a temporary disruption to what we’re accustomed to, but we won’t be able to assess the true scope of the damage until the storm passes.

I wish you, and all that read this thread, the very best !!

I will write this projection/prediction here, because I believe that this virus will explode in the United States.

We are just seeing the tip of this. And if anyone wants to look back a few weeks, I wrote the exact same thing on the first thread.

I just checked, it was February 12th.

I totally agree...

The storm is upon us!

 

[Lilibet]

Food delivery might be a good idea. And emphasizing on cooking techniques, using technology to verify food safety. Maybe even have a few specialized menu items that are prepared using pressure cooker, with heat index, blah, blah...that you have incorporated safe food handling techniques that go beyond "regulation standards". It would not be off putting to people. I would actually be inclined to order food from a restaurant who cared about food prep.

But, of course, I have a daughter who went to culinary school. I have to clean my kitchen for a month before she visits.

We subscribed to a food delivery service starting this week, but not because of coronavirus. It’s called freshly.com. It’s not cheap, but it’s comparable to the meals my husband brings home from our local food coop a few times each week. We are really impressed so far. It comes right to our door in an insulated box with a large ice pack. Almost everything can be recycled. The meals go in the microwave for about 3 minutes and are delicious. Gluten free too.

 

[Lilibet]

My husband and I binge-watched four of six episodes of “Pandemic” on Netflix tonight. All I can say is WOW! I highly recommend it. On the one hand, it’s so prescient it’s scary. Some of it was filmed only a year ago. But it’s also a fascinating and heartening look at what frontline doctors and researchers are doing all over the world...India, Vietnam, China, Egypt, New York City, San Francisco, Oklahoma, Tucson (a migrant entry center) and here in Oregon (the battle in the legislature against anti-vaxxers)...such wonderful, self-sacrificing people! The episodes cycle through the stories. We couldn’t stop watching!

 

[FrostOwl]

This is interesting ... from the link:

"But really, don’t more people die each year from falling down stairs than will be killed by coronavirus?

More people do die in a year falling on stairs in the UK – 787 last year – than die of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, which killed 428. Few would argue that HIV is trivial, or not something to avoid.

At present, it is believed that one per cent of Covid-19 cases die. But this makes it as deadly as the 1918 ‘Spanish’ flu – one of the worst pandemics known, thought to have killed up to 50million worldwide."​

Actually, the Spanish flu may be one of the worst pandemics in modern time, but the 1 per cent death rate is nothing compared to the Black plague that reached Europe in 1348, which killed about 50 per cent of the European population in four years. Second plague pandemic - Wikipedia

 

[mickey2942]

Actually, the Spanish flu may be one of the worst pandemics in modern time, but the 1 per cent death rate is nothing compared to the Black plague that reached Europe in 1348, which killed about 50 per cent of the European population in four years. Second plague pandemic - Wikipedia

Fortunately, we have far better access to healthcare, medication, food, and improvement in sanitation/hygiene/living conditions than the 14th century.

 

[Lilibet]

I will write this projection/prediction here, because I believe that this virus will explode in the United States.

We are just seeing the tip of this. And if anyone wants to look back a few weeks, I wrote the exact same thing on the first thread.

I just checked, it was February 12th.

I agree. I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet. And testing has barely begun.

 

[Lilibet]

Did they quickly reassemble a federal pandemic response team? I read that they were let go a couple of years ago.

Yes, they were let go and so they are pretty much starting from scratch. It takes time to get up to speed.

 

[Lilibet]

I apologize if this NYT economic analysis/opinion piece has already been posted.

Final paragraph (It’s not too much to ask for, is it?):

Governments cannot eliminate uncertainty, but they can ensure the transparent and accurate flow of information. Even if the news is bad, consumers, businesses and investors need to know that they have a reliable picture of the facts. That, along with knowing that governments are doing all they can, might be the salve that everyone needs.
BBM

Opinion | The Coronavirus Has Put the World’s Economy in Survival Mode

 

[gregjrichards]

It has emerged that one of the latest people to be infected with coronavirus is a healthcare worker at a cancer hospital.

The NHS said that they were a clinician at the Mount Vernon Cancer Centre in Northwood, in Hillingdon, North London, and anyone who has been in contact with them has been identified. They insisted that the risk to patients and staff is ‘very low’ stating that the centre would stay open as it ‘remains safe’.

New UK coronavirus case works at cancer unit looking after terminally ill | Metro News

I hope the healthcare worker recovers and no cancer patients contract the coronavirus as it is the last thing they need.

 

[FrostOwl]

Fortunately, we have far better access to healthcare, medication, food, and improvement in sanitation/hygiene/living conditions than the 14th century.

I compared the 1348 to 1918, not to 2020. Most of the access to better healthcare, medication, food, and other improvements have come after 1945 in the Western world. There are still parts of the world that are lacking those improvements.

I've done genealogy research and have seen how high the death rates among children in some families was until the beginning of the 20th century, when the situation began to improve.

 

[Lilibet]

Here is a CNN summary of new cases this weekend.

The total number of novel coronavirus cases in the United States jumped by two dozen over the weekend, as the first two deaths from the outbreak were confirmed.

New cases of the virus were announced in Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington state, and Florida on Sunday, bringing the US total to 89 as of Monday morning, up from 65 on Friday night.

US Coronavirus: Two dozen new cases reported over the weekend - CNN

 

[Strangeworld]

Masks can actually increase your risk of getting the coronavirus – here’s why

Face masks can ‘increase risk’ of catching coronavirus, expert explains

But according to infection prevention specialist Eli Perencevich, MD, a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa’s College of Medicine, if you wear a mask incorrectly it can actually “increase” your chances of getting the virus.

“Masks won’t protect the average person. Because they will wear them incorrectly and autocontaminate themselves. I’ve never seen a person practice hand hygiene before removing a mask in public and then after removing the mask,” Prof Perencevich said in a Twitter post on Monday.

 

[Pi Thoughts]

People at risk of spreading coronavirus could be arrested and detained by police under new laws to be introduced in South Australia.
The amendments come as governments across the world grapple to contain the spread of the virus, with three cases confirmed in the state.
Premier Steven Marshall said the change, to be introduced to parliament this week, will give health authorities the powers they need to protect South Australians.
SA police to be given powers to detain people at risk of spreading coronavirus

 

[Henry2326]

RI Coronavirus: 2nd 'Presumptive' Positive, 3rd Person Tested
All three people went on the same trip to Europe, the Department of Health said, and the second patient is a teenager with "mild" symptoms.
By Rachel Nunes, Patch Staff

RI Coronavirus: 2nd Presumptive Positive, 3rd Person Tested

All three people went on a trip to Europe, organized by St. Raphael's Academy, in mid-February. The school will be closed for the entire week, the department said.

"All three people went on the same trip to Italy," said Dr. Nicole Alexander-Scott, the Director of Health at RIDOH. "This is precisely why we are being so aggressive in identifying contacts, ensuring monitoring, and testing people who are symptomatic."

In total, 38 people went on the trip, the department said. All of them will be self-monitoring for symptoms for 14 days, and have been instructed to avoid going to school or work and to stay at home during that time.

The woman being tested for the virus is a staff member at Achievement First Academy in Providence. Her test results are expected on Monday, according to the Department of Health, and the school will be closed for one day for cleaning.

The department is now working to reach out to other people who have been in direct contact with the three individuals. Anyone who was in direct contact with them will self-monitor for 12 days, the department said, under the supervision of public health officials. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is reaching out to the other people who were on the return trip to the United States, the department said.

 

[Henry2326]

2 March

• 10:28: 523 new cases and 11 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
• 10:22: First 2 cases in Portugal. One traveled from Italy, the other from Spain. (Source 1, Source 2)
• 09:32: 2 new cases in Italy. First case in Rome and first case on Sardinia. (Source)
• 09:15: 20 new cases in Germany. (Source)
• 09:13: First case in Andorra. Patient recently traveled from Italy. (Source)
• 08:57: 2 new cases in India, including the first case in New Delhi. Patient in New Delhi traveled from Italy while the other traveled from Dubai. (Source)
• 08:27: 1 new case in Croatia. (Source)
• 08:26: 10 new cases in Kuwait. All 10 patients recently traveled from Iran. (Source)
• 08:25: 123 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
• 08:20: 1 new death in Iran. Patient was Seyed Mohammad Mirmohammadi, a member of Iran’s Expediency Discernment Council. (Source 1, Source 2)
• 05:23: 4 new deaths in South Korea. (Source)
• 04:49: 1 new case in Australia. First in Tasmania. Patient recently returned from Iran. (Source)
• 04:40: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source)
• 04:30: First 2 cases in Indonesia. (Source 1, Source 2)
• 02:55: 1 new case in Oregon, United States. (Source)
• 02:50: 2 new cases in the United States. First in Florida. (Source)

Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

 

[Henry2326]

BREAKING: Andorra reports first case of coronavirus Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
BNO Newsroom on Twitter

Andorra is a tiny country in south western Europe, located in the eastern Pyrenees mountains and bordered by Spain and France.

 

[Henry2326]

South Korea--

Lee Man-hee, leader of the Shincheonji Church apologized for his actions to obstruct #COVID19 prevention efforts, the government is currently seeking murder charges for his actions #coronavirus #CoronaOutbreak #SARSCoV2
COVID19 Updates in Asia on Twitter

 

[Henry2326]

Despite repeated pleas from health officials not to purchase them, Americans can't stop snatching up masks and respirators. The mask boom has prompted sellers to jack up prices and exploit demand — and has meant a shortage for medics who need them. Coronavirus hysteria is leading to mass mask shortages. For health care officials, they're essential. For Chinese Americans, they're a lifeline home. - CNN

CNN on Twitter

 

[Pi Thoughts]

While the coronavirus death toll continues to rise and authorities prepare for the global outbreak to be declared a pandemic, doctors have found that one unlikely age group is less at risk of becoming infected.

Australia’s chief medical officer Dr Brendan Murphy said one of the surprising features about coronavirus was how few children seemed to have been identified among the confirmed cases. “It’s very unusual compared to influenza,” he said.

“We don’t know whether children might be getting the disease but (their symptoms) are so mild they are not being picked up, or they’re not becoming sick, or whether they are somehow less susceptible.”

So far, out of the more than 87,000 confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide, no children have been reported as having serious complications. Limited reports of children with COVID-19 in China have described cold-like symptoms, such as fever, a runny nose and cough.
Why kids are immune to coronavirus

 

[Henry2326]

Indonesian President Joko Widodo said on Monday two Indonesians had tested positive for coronavirus, marking the first confirmed cases in the world's fourth most populous country.
Matthew Tostevin on Twitter

Indonesian MOH is requesting all ministry-run hospitals to submit data regarding respiratory infection and pneumonia cases as fears mount that #COVID19 remains undetected in Indonesia #coronavirus #CoronaOutbreak #SARSCoV2 Disease control directorate general requests hospital pneumonia data over COVID-19 fears
COVID19 Updates in Asia on Twitter