Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #25

[diggndeeperstill]

If reports on how long the virus is active on surfaces is accurate - high risks individuals can become infected by simply getting their mail or newspaper from the mail or newspaper delivery person that is a carrier of the virus after coming in contact with one of the low risk but infected individuals out having a good time.

Or picking up the groceries from the store. I’m wiping each item.

 

[MyBelle]

So why aren’t they leaving to go home now before it gets worse? If they get sick in the US what about medical coverage?
Do they not have a full time home? Or do they rent apartments for 6 month in the US and 6 months in Canada?
I don’t know any snowbirds so I don’t have anyone to ask!

We know several snowbirds in Florida. They own their vacation homes and are staying put. It would be a huge mistake for anyone in the high risk group to try to board an airplane. O'Hare airport is a crowded mess right now.

PHOTOS: Long lines greet passengers at O’Hare during travel ban

 

[momrids6]

I am in the high risk category but I worry less about myself and more for my family members and friends that are hospital nurses and first responders. The less precautions the public takes at containing this virus puts people I love at risk. To me the people not practicing social distancing are not seeing the bigger picture. By not practicing social distancing they are increasing the risks to the very people they will depend on when they need medical care or a first responder . Their foolish actions will be signing someone else's death notice and they are rolling the dice on whether that will be a stranger or someone they know and love. IMO, not practicing social distancing is the same as a person with HIV having unprotected sex with as many persons as they can to purposely infect them.

I don’t hear many fussing about the folks working at the big box, grocery and drug stores.

No symptoms and mildly ill are not going to the hospital or doctors. Bills need to be paid, mouths to be fed. Many would flip out if these stores closed. The medical folks are still using high protocol protection that they have been using for years.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

It is sadness. We look forward to this time of year. Worst of all, I feel bad for the players and coaches that worked so hard to get where they got.

I'm not much of a sports fan other than hockey, but I'm going to miss the World Figure Skating Championships that were scheduled for March 16-22 in Montreal. My sister would have come to stay for a couple of days so she could watch the skating on a big screen and not her computer monitor. Sis is a major sports fan and is bummed about March Madness, too.

 

[crhedBngr]

We know several snowbirds in Florida. They own their vacation homes and are staying put. It would be a huge mistake for anyone in the high risk group to try to board an airplane. O'Hare airport is a crowded mess right now.

PHOTOS: Long lines greet passengers at O’Hare during travel ban

We were going to fly into O'Hare on 4/3. I sure am glad we cancelled our trip!

Stay safe and healthy, Everyone!

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Yes, I’m sitting right now at my favorite family restaurant and tap, having just enjoyed a great blackened salmon salad and a couple of pints of IPA. They and I are a team it seems, their food and restaurant improves my mental health and I and my tips provide income for the business and staff. They have adopted call in order, we’ll bring out to your car service, but sadly there are only I and a table of 8 right now. Hope business survive because they also pay wages to staff.

MOO

I wish there would be a government bail out for the small business owners and those that aren't being paid

 

[escape2sc]

https://www.thestate.com/news/coron...1.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_494497

McMaster to close all SC public schools as coronavirus cases rise, source says

South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster will announce later today that he is ordering all public schools closed through March.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Coronavirus Ireland: All pubs asked to close as Government urges against house parties

All pubs have been asked to close in a bid to tackle the spread of coronavirus, Health Minister Simon Harris has confirmed.

Following a meeting with the Vintners' Federation of Ireland this evening, Mr Harris said that all pubs and bars, including hotel bars, should close from this evening until at least March 29.

The Government is also advising against house parties as they urge people to practice social distancing.

 

[Sillybilly]

I have read that many are grabbing everything insight, not because they need that much, but in order to resell the items even on the streets. Gah! Self absorbed ignorant people imo.

In times of crisis we see the best of humanity, and the very WORST of humanity.

<rsbm>

IMO, in times of national crisis, they should treat this type of gouging the way they treat looting.

 

[Shelby1]

Dr. Fauci going to be on Fox News soon.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Why aren’t we warned every flu season about disinfecting our mail? Flu virus lives quite a while on surfaces too, right? I doubt enough cells would survive the friction in the mail to be a problem, but that’s just MOO.

Online shopping can add an extra layer of coronavirus protection, since it limits direct contact with a large number of people (hello, social distancing)—but, while it certainly seems like the safer option, could online shopping lead to coronavirus spreading through mail and packages?

The answer: For the most part, no. Early on in the outbreak, the World Health Organization set out to dispel myths surrounding coronavirus—and the worry that coronavirus could travel from China via packages was one of them. According to the WHO, "People receiving packages from China are not at risk of contracting the new coronavirus." The organization went on to explain that, based on what we know from other coronaviruses, objects like letters or packages are not good environments for the viruses.

That's not to say, however, that the coronavirus can't be found on packages ever: One March 11 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that the coronavirus can live up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. But, according to Joseph Vinetz, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist, that doesn't mean it will infect you. "Detection does not mean transmissible," he says.

Ultimately, while there is a very small chance for coronavirus to be transmitted via packages or mail carriers, it's highly unlikely. "I don't believe mail or packages should be a major concern for individuals," Amesh Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security. "This is not going to be a major route of illness."

If you're still worried, feel free to wipe down packages and their contents upon receipt—but go ahead and keep stocking up on any supplies you think you might need by mail.

FYI: The Coronavirus Probably Won't Spread Through Your Mail

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Our drivers are going in tomorrow to clean their specific bus. Not to sanitize, but to clean the trash and things left behind. My neighbor drives & told me the must report at 8a.m.

Also, on the issue if someone can be reinfected, I can find articles on both sides. Someone asked on the other thread
So including one link here.
People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recovering does not necessarily make you immune

Wow, from your link:
"On Wednesday, Japanese authorities reported the first confirmed case of reinfection. A tour guide in Osaka first tested positive for the coronavirus in late January, then was discharged from the hospital three weeks ago after showing signs of recovery. But she returned to the hospital after developing a sore throat and chest pain and tested positive for the coronavirus once again."

I don't know if their protocol requires 2 consecutive negative tests with a gap of 24 hours between testing to be declared a cure. But wow!China is reporting same.

 

[Bravo]

I am wondering if they will have to go into self-isolation for 14 days when they return to Canada from the U.S.? Does anyone know?

It has been recommended by Government that they do. I do think some work places are enforcing their own Policy. Mine is. Self isolate 14 days if u have travelled anywhere outside Canada.

 

[Elley Mae]

59 to be exact. And the article doesn’t say whether he had underlying condtions.

He did.

Nick Matthews - who had underlying health conditions - died in Bristol yesterday

Heartbroken wife pays tribute to her 'soul mate' husband who died from coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

 

[Herat]

I just watched the BBC video by Lin Wenhua about the Wuhan quarantine

MUST SEE MUST SEE

BBC News Channel - Our World, Wuhan: Life under Lockdown

It shows how drastic the quarantine was, how modern and efficient Wuhan is as a city and how massively it was shut down. He is delivering donated medicines to people who have relatives in the hospital

It also follows a medical couple: an MD and his ER RN wife and how they are coping with her work, her getting the disease, her quarantine, and trying to get her into the hospital

Everyone in the hospital is in full body containment. The makeshift hospitals in stadiums are Huge.
MUST SEE

I seriously doubt we in the US are capable of doing anything like Wuhan did.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Imo, people are sugar coating & seeing what they want, not what it is in respect to people coming together helping, etc., sure some of us are trying to do the right thing, but imo very few are, and the community transmission is in fact proof. Or driving thru any given town, checking bar parking lots, might give a truer perspective. Here it is “if you’re sick or old, so what, stay home....no one can make me, blah blah.”
Now we are at 3,100+ in the US. Up substantially from earlier today.
Dr. Brilliant is answering questions on CNN now.

Up to 3,313 in the few minutes since you posted this.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Or picking up the groceries from the store. I’m wiping each item.

That's smart. I haven't done that yet, but should. LOL, I feel like we all need ante chambers for decontamination for us and what we bring home.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I don’t hear many fussing about the folks working at the big box, grocery and drug stores.

No symptoms and mildly ill are not going to the hospital or doctors. Bills need to be aid, mouths to be fed. Many would flip out if these stores closed. The medical folks are still using high protocol protection that they have been using for years.

The nurses and doctors here at the hospital (I’m with a loved one -cardiac/neurological issues) - no one had on masks. Only one had on gloves. PT did not wash hands upon entering until I said something.
And there is a white isolation tent at each entrance here.

 

[mickey2942]

It is really interesting to go back to the first thread, and read "our" collective comments. It seems to me, that most of us, were far more in tune to this situation, 6 weeks ago, than the rest of the people.

I copied something I wrote on February 1. It seemed sort of "crazy" six weeks ago...

"Not to be alarmist, but every single fictionalized pandemic starts with people being contained on military bases, and eventual martial law enforcement."

I really wonder what is going to happen in the next six weeks. I can easily see some major problems in larger cities if goods become scarcer, and more people get sick.

 

[MimosaMornings]

That's probably smart. LOL, I feel like we all need ante chambers for decontamination for us and what we bring home.

Yep!! Have put together a makeshift one in the garage.