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Another meat processing plant affected-Tyson in rural GA...heads up to all who are paying attention in regards to supply chains...

- Four employees of a major poultry producer's operations in rural southwest Georgia have died after becoming infected with the coronavirus, a company spokesman said Friday.

Tyson Foods spokesman Gary Mickelson said three of the employees worked at the company's chicken processing plant in Camilla, while the fourth person worked in a supporting job outside the plant. He declined to say how many workers there have tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the new virus.



Company: 4 Georgia poultry workers dead from coronavirus
 
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The problem is that a family group can’t prevent others from using the skate park or tennis courts at the same time...and there goes social distancing. Kids may be at low risk of catching COVID-19 but they can be asymptomatic carriers. Time will tell how well sending them back to school works for the adults in their lives.

And skaters aren't just kids. It's a group that is mostly 16-35 in age. And some older people. But the point is that they were mass congregating (100's) in a park that is closed to others. So, other people (mostly young) came out too. You can't allow one group to use a park and not allow everyone to use it.

Seashores may well be a more risky environment. Damp. Warm. If you look at "floor" or "ground" surfaces as harborers of viruses, it's a really high virus area because the virus ends up going down to the cement or asphalt or linoleum.

If we want youngsters to get CoVid, then we need to so state. It would be better, perhaps, for them to get it in their teens and 20's, right? Help create herd immunity? Would help the rest of us?

But there would be a cost - people who don't know they have pre-existing conditions are among the young. If we try to reopen parks just to the young, we will see a statistical bump up in deaths in that group (per capita). The public and parents need to hear that first.

Are we ready for that?

There's a skate park on the edge of our college campus and I have never, ever seen a family at it. Little kids can't use them, they're too dangerous (drops of 20 feet down steep embankments, nearly vertical 12 foot drops, etc). In fact, I think you may have to be 18 to use that one. San Clemente's is known for being gnarly - but I think you can be any age and use it.

Lots of broken collarbones and wrists as a result...but it's definitely not used by little kids, they all look like young men (with the occasional young woman) to me.
 
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I remember it well! He was my all time favorite. No one like him before or since.
I like him when he does Freddy Mercury and Queen songs. We saw a Queen Extravaganza with Marc Martel last summer and he knocked it out of the park with his interpretation. Guess maybe you can tell I'm a Queen fan.

Also saw Adam Lambert in the American Idol road tour that summer in Atlantic City, along with the winner..Kris?? and others from that year's competition.
 
A short while ago I found a diagram showing percentages and ages of those dying with CV19 but not necessarily just of CV19 as the underlying condition puts them at higher risk of death from the virus The ages and sex were in there too so I am going to have a search for it again and will link it.

Here it is. About 10% of all males and females have no pre existing conditions according to the graph

The rest have pre existing condition. The majority died from Coronavirus

How deadly is the coronavirus?

"For example, an 18-year-old in Coventry tested positive for coronavirus the day before he died and was reported as its youngest victim at the time.

But the hospital subsequently released a statement saying his death had been due to a separate "significant" health condition and not connected to the virus.

There are, however, other cases, including health workers, where people have died with no known health conditions.

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The Office for National Statistics has tried to shed light on this. It looked at nearly 4,000 deaths in England and Wales during March.

There were two main findings. Firstly, the virus was the cause of the majority of deaths, not other factors.

But secondly, nine in 10 did have pre-existing illnesses, such as heart disease and respiratory problems that put them at heightened risk of death anyway."

I have asthma, mild to moderate, totally under control for many many years: my asthma does not put me at heightened risk of death "anyway"-- it does increase my odds of dying however from the Covid virus.
 
Dr. Phil's comments were stupid too - that we don't shut down for car crashes or drownings.

Well, car crashes and drowning are not contagious.

Car crashes and drowning don't all happen in huge numbers, overwhelming the hospitals.

That doesn't mean car crashes and drownings aren't tragic - measures should be taken to minimize them - but they are hardly comparable to Covid.

But, I'm sure people nodded and said, "Yah! People die in cars every day and we still can go to the movies."

jmo

And he got all his numbers wrong! Only 3000 drowning deaths in the US (total) and that includes river and boating accidents - not just backyard pools.

Can you imagine if 35,000 people drowned in one month??? According to Mr Phil's analysis, 30,000 people die monthly from drowning.

The man is a $$money-grubbing A$$.

If 35,000 Americans died in one month, in car crashes, I think we'd be pretty upset about that too. But viruses and car crashes have very different causes.
 
I am curious as I am searching for this song-- is it called "Strange World: or is it 'Mad World" because all I am finding is "Mad World"
Please advise, I would love to listen to it.

You’re right. “Mad World.” It sounded like he said “Strange World” when he was talking, but I wasn’t hearing him too well. Good catch. :)
 
John Boyne, well known author, wrote this Christopher Robin parody poem which was published in the Irish Times recently. Thought it was quite poignant and wanted to share.

Corona Vespers
with apologies to AA Milne

Little boy stands at the edge of the door,
Glances behind, then looks down at the floor.
Hush! Hush! Keep your hands clean!
Christopher Robin is in quarantine.

At first it was good to be kept off of school
He’s quite far advanced and is nobody’s fool
But he missed out a party the day he turned six
And he’s seen everything on iTunes and Netflix.

He can’t even play with his big sister Alice
Who’s having a meltdown at Buckingham Palace
A soldier’s life might be terribly hard
But it’s easier now they’ve stopped changing the guard.

Little boy stands at the end of the drive
He likes being out there, he feels more alive.
Hush! Hush! Don’t get too near!
Christopher Robin is shedding a tear.

Daddy is home and is working upstairs
But rather than suits, it’s just sweatpants he wears.
He no longer shaves and works out his frustration
By just playing FIFA upon his PlayStation.

At first Mummy said she’d clear out household junk
Then couldn’t be bothered so sits getting drunk
The empties pile up but she says “I don’t care,
It’s must be gone Wine O’Clock someplace, somewhere.”

Little boy runs to the end of the street
He’s fast and he’s nimble, there’s wings on his feet.
Hush! Hush! This is the day
Christopher Robin is running away.

The playground is near but he sees it’s deserted
It’s been that way ever since they were alerted
To dangers the scientists identified
Of sharing a roundabout, swing or a slide.

There’s nowhere to go and there’s no one to see
He hopes this will end but there’s no guarantee
How he wishes that he had his own time machine
He’d go back to the months before Covid-19.

Little boy walks up the path to his house
Though he’d love to just scream, he’s as quiet as a mouse.
Hush! Hush! Whisper who dares!
Christopher Robin’s stopped saying his prayers.
 
@Cags
Thanks for the ‘clear as mud’ guidelines. It’s happy hour in Barcelona. -:) think I might need to change sweats due to constant laughing...ooops, crone bladder
Planted all herbs yesterday before the rain: tomatoes & peppers go in Monday.
Corn, beans, squash, cucumbers, Mississippi purple hull pink eye peas, butter beans, melons next. Okra when it’s warmer. Let’s hope the crop is good. I’d love to share.

I learned to can years ago in MS Delta so I plant enough to take us through winter. I learned from some great older women, Sister Haigwood (fab mint for juleps) and Sister Jordan, ‘patchwork quilt’ soup bases, being tag end of harvest, bits of this and that. And figs from Sister Mattie Mae.
 
It looks like Sweden had it right.

No schools or businesses closed. No stay at home order. No travel restrictions. Restaurants open. Business as usual.

The new IHME model (updated yesterday) projects 6,000 deaths in Sweden through August, with the minimal preventative steps they have taken (image attached). In a country of 10 million, this is 600 deaths per million. The number is similar to what Spain will see by August, even though they have had severe restrictions.
How can that be, we are told we are flattening the curve etc? From what I understand, the reason that can be is that coronavirus is more infectious and has a much higher incidence of asymptomatic cases than initially realized. And it's not nearly as dangerous as we have been led to believe.

If this 'business as usual" approach of 600 deaths per million in Sweden is scaled to 330 million people in the U.S., there would be 200,000 deaths instead of the now expected 60,000. We have saved 140,000 lives by shutting the economy.

As pointed out by the esteemed epidemiologist Prof Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College in London- "It might be as much as half to two-thirds of the deaths we're seeing from COVID-19 would have died by of the year anyway." That's a pretty cold and heartless statement.

But I would also say that is far more cold and heartless to ignore the impact of turning off the economy- widespread permanent job loss, lower paying jobs, huge increase in foreclosures and homelessness, a massive federal deficit, increases in divorce, spousal and child abuse, depleted retirement funds, reduced quality of life, and death.

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Hundreds of thousands of children could die this year due to the global economic downturn sparked by the coronavirus pandemic and tens of millions more could fall into extreme poverty as a result of the crisis, the United Nations warned on Thursday.

U.N. warns economic downturn could kill hundreds of thousands of children in 2020

Some things we already know for context on 140,000 deaths- 2,800,000 people die in the U.S. every year, 500,000 die from smoking (40,000 from second hand smoke), and 70,000 (0.02% of the U.S. population) died in the flu season of 2017-2018.

Six months ago, if you were asked to choose between losing the excess 140,000 people in the U.S. (and > 50% would die before the end of the year regardless), which is 0.04% (1/25th of 1 percent) of the U.S. population.

-OR-

saving these 140,000 people and putting the American economy in a deep and long lasting recession, what would you have said?

*****

I don't mean to be cavalier in discussing vulnerable people and death. But this pandemic attacks the vulnerable, and death is the most blatant end result of a pandemic. It is hard to discuss preventative measures etc without this metric.

IHME | COVID-19 Projections
 

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And he got all his numbers wrong! Only 3000 drowning deaths in the US (total) and that includes river and boating accidents - not just backyard pools.

Can you imagine if 35,000 people drowned in one month??? According to Mr Phil's analysis, 30,000 people die monthly from drowning.

The man is a $$money-grubbing A$$.

If 35,000 Americans died in one month, in car crashes, I think we'd be pretty upset about that too. But viruses and car crashes have very different causes.
Unintentional Drowning: Get the Facts

From 2005-2014, there were an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day.1 An additional 332 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents.

Unintentional Drowning: Get the Facts | Home and Recreational Safety | CDC Injury Center

Annual United States Road Crash Statistics

More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants.

Road Safety Facts — Association for Safe International Road Travel



 
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