Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

[10ofRods]

Coronavirus: San Clemente Fills Skatepark With 37 Tons Of Sand After Skaters Ignore 'No Trespassing' Signs

Local kids lose access to skatepark, because they wouldn't stay out after it was closed. San Clemente put 32 tons of sand on top of it.

 

[Seattle1]

ha ha! had this very discussion with another Monk fan... and we felt he would actually love the social isolation, but would sneak out at night to assess some clues in his personally made space suit.

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[Sundog]

The MSM is replete with commentators who are asked to give their opinions on issues even when it is not in the area of their expertise, but if they are medical specialists, like Dr. Oz who is a heart surgeon, and Dr. Gupta,who is a neurosurgeon, they get asked a lot of medicall questions. Dr. Oz has issued a statement apologizing that he misspoke, see his statement below. And in his defense, Dr. Gupta, another medical specialist who shows up on MSM frequently, provides some context for Dr. Oz's statements, indicating that these are the questions we have to ask as we consider how we will re-open.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta reacts to Dr. Oz's discussion on Fox News about opening schools - CNN Video

"As a heart surgeon, I spent my career fighting to save lives in the operating room by minimizing risks," Dr. Oz says in the video. "At the same time, I'm being asked constantly, 'How will we be able to get people back to their normal lives?' To do that, one of the important steps will be figuring out how do we get our children safely back to school. We know, for many kids, school is a place of security, nutrition and learning that is missing right now. These are issues we are all wrestling with. And I will continue looking for solutions to beat this virus."

 

[branmuffin]

Here in Atlanta the Mayor has threatened several times to shut down the beltline which is the walking path through the city. It gets better after the warning and then goes right back.
I've thought about this alot and can't put my finger on an answer.....why are there some groups who respect the science of a virus so much more than others?
I'm speaking of blatant disregard of the danger....

Human nature, I think. It's like how everyone's really cautious after driving by a particularly bad car crash. For about 2 miles everyone drives the limit then it's back to the speed they want to go.

 

[SeattleStew]

Herat, I thought of you the other day.

Remember you mentioned scrambling in the back of the cupboard for a piece of chocolate like a squirrel on crack?

Well, a long time ago I got some soup delivered and they sent some crackers with it. I don’t do regular flour so actually threw away those cracker packets so I wouldn’t be tempted to eat them.

Well I found one in the back of the cupboard when I ran out of food a couple weeks back lol. I was scrambling in the cupboard for a pack of crackers like a squirrel on crack and couldn’t have been more excited when I found an old pack of crackers lol.



Sweeeeet! Spark up the purple bud Seattle Stew (best weed I ever smoked was purple bud in Seattle by the way. I forgot to tell you that when you mentioned the purple bud a while back haha)

Oh yes! Purple Unicorn from Kiona over in Eastern Washington. I think I'll get out some of my secret popcorn stash along with that fine bud and enjoy the show! BTW I'm GF, too, so your cracker story is hilarious. I was found myself rooting around for a soy sauce packet from a Chinese food delivery many moons ago even though not GF, but needed for a recipe.

Keep posting all this great info sleuthers! I've learned sooo much from y'all!

 

[tresir2012]

I did not think I had ever had it either, but discussing shingles shots with my doctor, he said nearly everyone in older generations had had it - maybe thought it was measles.

I don't think doctors know much about these childhood diseases. I never caught it when my siblings got it, then when I had kids, they caught it and I thought, I'm in for it now but I still never caught it. My doctor at the time said I must have been immune to it. I never had the smallpox jab either as I did not react when they did the test. It must have been all the unpasteurized milk I drank as a kid. Anyone know why it is called chicken pox,

 

[10ofRods]

That does bring up a difficult thought/discussion. There is discussion of training volunteer cores to do "tracking". I think it is a good idea, that South Korea and Singapore did so well. But will much of that tracking have to be following "bad behavior". Maybe we will see those research studies down the road.

Why volunteers? Shouldn't this be a legitimate and important job, with tons of accountability and training?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Coronavirus: San Clemente Fills Skatepark With 37 Tons Of Sand After Skaters Ignore 'No Trespassing' Signs

Local kids lose access to skatepark, because they wouldn't stay out after it was closed. San Clemente put 32 tons of sand on top of it.

This is absolutely brilliant, would love to have seen the kids' faces when they turned up the next day!

 

[NuttMegg]

The MSM is replete with commentators who are asked to give their opinions on issues even when it is not in the area of their expertise, but if they are medical specialists, like Dr. Oz who is a heart surgeon, and Dr. Gupta,who is a neurosurgeon, they get asked a lot of medicall questions. Dr. Oz has issued a statement apologizing that he misspoke, see his statement below. And in his defense, Dr. Gupta, another medical specialist who shows up on MSM frequently, provides some context for Dr. Oz's statements, indicating that these are the questions we have to ask as we consider how we will re-open.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta reacts to Dr. Oz's discussion on Fox News about opening schools - CNN Video

"As a heart surgeon, I spent my career fighting to save lives in the operating room by minimizing risks," Dr. Oz says in the video. "At the same time, I'm being asked constantly, 'How will we be able to get people back to their normal lives?' To do that, one of the important steps will be figuring out how do we get our children safely back to school. We know, for many kids, school is a place of security, nutrition and learning that is missing right now. These are issues we are all wrestling with. And I will continue looking for solutions to beat this virus."

But these guys go on FOX, say things like this, and then the damage is done with people who only watch that network for their news and don't see the backtracking. I hear what you are saying about being asked opinions about things out of their field, but they wouldn't go on a FOX interview without having the topics all worked out ahead of time, IMO. Non-epidemiologists Phil McGraw, Mehmet Oz stoke controversy with coronavirus remarks

 

[Lilibet]

Because they have agents that promote them as talents and seek commercial ventures where both agent and client make a lot of money.

The really reputable MD's do not have agents.

BBM

Which is why I stick to watching programming that interviews reputable experts...ones who have proven their expertise in the subject at hand. Drs Oz, Phil and Pinsky are trashy “entertainment” IMO. Any program who hires them is pandering to the lowest common denominator of viewers and isn’t worth watching.
JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

But these guys go on FOX to say crazy stuff, and then the damage is done. I hear what you are saying about being asked opinions about things out of their field, but they wouldn't go on a FOX interview without having the topics all worked out ahead of time, IMO. Non-epidemiologists Phil McGraw, Mehmet Oz stoke controversy with coronavirus remarks

And....it's within the realm of possibilities to NOT go on shows to answer questions that are beyond their expertise.

They could say no. But they don't.

So, to me, that says they care about being on the air more than about the information provided to the public.

jmo

 

[margarita25]

Bumping for everyone!! Thank you SeattleStew!

@margarita25 Starts livestreaming in about 10 minutes, Noon your time!

 

[SeattleStew]

Anyone here want to make a thread for watching the concert? I'm watching now, and might start crying already, need a support group.

"Rise Up"
Andra Day

What a great song! In her Sloth Running Club sweatshirt no less!

 

[tresir2012]

COVID-19 Patients Need to be Tested for Bacteria and Fungi, Not Just the Coronavirus
"In the midst of the global COVID-19 pandemic, hospitals are relying on tests capable of delivering reliable results, minimizing transmission risk and reducing time to treatment in the patients who need it most. Doctors are laser-focused on obtaining and using these tests to identify and treat patients with coronavirus. Yet the emerging risk of co-infections is pressuring hospitals to broaden their patient testing portfolios to address new mortality risks.

Many studies have already found that a significant number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients have and are continuing to develop dangerous secondary bacterial co-infections such as bacterial pneumonia and sepsis.Rapid diagnostic tests that identify the presence of bacterial or fungal infections and drug-resistant pathogens can and will play a critical role in the ongoing public health response to COVID-19. "

A short while ago I found a diagram showing percentages and ages of those dying with CV19 but not necessarily just of CV19 as the underlying condition puts them at higher risk of death from the virus The ages and sex were in there too so I am going to have a search for it again and will link it.

Here it is. About 10% of all males and females have no pre existing conditions according to the graph

The rest have pre existing condition. The majority died from Coronavirus

How deadly is the coronavirus?

"For example, an 18-year-old in Coventry tested positive for coronavirus the day before he died and was reported as its youngest victim at the time.

But the hospital subsequently released a statement saying his death had been due to a separate "significant" health condition and not connected to the virus.

There are, however, other cases, including health workers, where people have died with no known health conditions.

The Office for National Statistics has tried to shed light on this. It looked at nearly 4,000 deaths in England and Wales during March.

There were two main findings. Firstly, the virus was the cause of the majority of deaths, not other factors.

But secondly, nine in 10 did have pre-existing illnesses, such as heart disease and respiratory problems that put them at heightened risk of death anyway."

 

[Lilibet]

Bumping for everyone!! Thank you SeattleStew!

Watching right now! Don’t forget the “main” show is on at 8:00 pm EDT.

 

[Sundog]

Foreign ski workers in Vermont, Colorado and New Hampshire stranded in U.S.

Foreign ski workers stranded by coronavirus get helping hand

 

[tresir2012]

Coronavirus: San Clemente Fills Skatepark With 37 Tons Of Sand After Skaters Ignore 'No Trespassing' Signs

Local kids lose access to skatepark, because they wouldn't stay out after it was closed. San Clemente put 32 tons of sand on top of it.

How mean is that? They have done similar with the tennis courts and football pitch near me. Locked them I mean. I know kids have to stay home but a family could go and play tennis or go skateboarding. I know, social distancing, but kids are the low risk group and they are thinking of sending them back to school, or have already done so (Denmark) in some places.

 

[RANCH]

Dr. Nicole Saphier agrees with new MIT model: America needs to 'hunker down for a bit more,' open with caution

Saphier -- a Fox News contributor -- agreed with a new Massachusetts Institute of Technology model predicting an "exponential explosion" in COVID-19 cases if the nation's lockdown measures are lifted too early.

Dr. Nicole Saphier agrees with new MIT model: America needs to 'hunker down for a bit more,' open with caution

 

[Tillicum]

Ohio COVID-19
9,939
Confirmed Cases
283
CDC Expanded Case Definition (Probable)
10,222
Total Cases
2,519
Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio
434
Confirmed Deaths
17
CDC Expanded Death Definition (Probable)
451
Total Deaths
760
Number of ICU Admissions
<1-106
Age Range
53
Median Age
53%*
Sex - Males
47%*
Sex - Females

 

[nhmemorymaker]

That's what happened with DH. Doc thought he had the flu and he went to the local ER to be tested for that. Chest scan picked up glass-like particles in his lungs, and they diagnosed (pre) pneumonia and also said most likely CoVid related. Tested for CoVid as well and results were telephoned to us 2 days later (positive). He has recovered at home and today is up, showered, shaven and watching TV (still in a different room from the rest of us).

Did he know where he got it?? Does he have lingering lethargy? And lasting symptoms?

A good friend of mine got it very early all things considered, so doctors were trying everything else on her and her son.... because they didn't have the "lineup of symptoms" organized yet to actually declare it covid in the beginning. I think she was even tested way after. But she never ever knew where she got it. She lives in New York, --still a rather rural county...but only about 90 minutes from Manhatten...so who knows. The significant difference was how badly she got it, and how mildly her son got it. (He is about 19, highly autistic), so they couldn't really ask him so much. So she got it 5 weeks ago...and is still very very tired. I just soooo fear of possible second or third phases. The sooner we get an idea of that the better.