Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #69

[10ofRods]

This is how I wish our governor would handle our outbreaks in California. Precision, not 40 million in lockdown.

Our situation is far too out-of-control to do that, IMO.

Also, so far, we haven't found a way to close county borders, the way Australia can do with its states and territories.
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I'm curious though - would you be in favor of counties being able to close their borders? The practicality of it for Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties is an issue, but let's say there was a way to do it (we can't just shut all the roads and freeways, we have to leave one open for essential traffic - but I suppose we could do that and have checkpoints, the way they do in other nations).

I'd think that the 5 would become the only main artery and that any time someone got off the 5, local authorities could stop and ask for their "essential" paperwork. We'd have to put that system in place, though.

We haven't even banned people from out of state (it's that time of year) from coming. The airports are getting busier.

Would you be okay with no out of state tourism?

If Newsom did try to pinpoint more, San Diego's situation would still be concerning.

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Are you suggesting that it be neighborhood by neighborhood? I don't see how that can work, as there could be no enforcement.. City by city? Still very hard to enforce. Because right now, if we don't want a very high death toll in California, we really need people to obey the rules.

 

[10ofRods]

I'm actually preparing for a difficult fall and winter here. I don't see us being able to visit with loved ones any time soon. I'm trying to mentally come to grips with that.

Me too. And I keep coming up with bizarre solutions that are nixed by Husband and other family.

We are going to see granddaughters outdoors in a park or our front yard, but with masks and no hugs and it's just not the same (we're used to having them over at the house for whole days at a time and both Mr Rods and myself have been helping with their homeschooling/online education, they give their parents way more guff than they do us).

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Hospital coronavirus data to bypass CDC for Trump administration database in Washington

“Today, the CDC still has at least a week lag in reporting hospital data,” Caputo said in a statement. “America requires it in real time.”

The data will be used to inform decisions at the federal level, including the allocation of personal protective gear, the drug remdesivir, and other supplies, treatments and resources, according to a document on the Health and Human Services website.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Police notified of 21,422 cases where travellers to Canada may have broken quarantine rules

Police have been notified for follow-up in more than 21,000 cases where travellers arriving in Canada either couldn't be reached or showed "indication of non-compliance" with the mandatory 14-day quarantine rules.

Of the 21,422 referrals from the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) to the RCMP, nearly 1,500 were identified as "priority cases" for physical check-ups.

The RCMP and PHAC both confirmed the figures to CTV News -- though few punishments have been doled out to any suspected rule-breakers.

In addition to these latest figures, Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) confirmed to CTVNews.ca that some travellers indicated a desire not to comply with Canada’s rules as early as the moment they travelled across the border.

The news of thousands of suspected rule-breakers emerges as COVID-19 cases explode on the other side of the world's longest international border.

Njoo had a message for anyone who is travelling to Canada and is considering flouting quarantine rules.

"If you are coming from outside of Canada, please understand all of the efforts that Canadians have done inside of Canada to flatten the curve and to make sure that the transmission of the virus is as low as possible," Njoo said.

"Please do your part."

 

[gngr~snap]

Smart Man!
Moo
Canceled: Remainder Of 2020 In-Person Services At North Point Churches

 

[CSIDreamer]

Indiana, US

700 new cases
10 deaths 7/9-7/14

Attachments are ICU bed usage and ventilator usage.

I'm still on pins and needles watching the death rate. I honestly expected it to start climbing again. So far, it hasn't.


ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Indiana COVID-19 Dashboard

 

[CharlestonGal]

BBM. It gets worse.

Coronavirus In Greater Houston: HISD Going Online-Only For 6 Weeks; Hospitals Told Not To Report Data To CDC | Houston Public Media

Hospitals in Texas and across the country will no longer be reporting coronavirus data directly to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention starting Wednesday.

Instead, U.S. Health and Human Services has told hospitals to send those metrics to a private data firm called TeleTracking.

ETA: So, our covid data is now going to the owner of a real estate and development company.

 

[tresir2012]

Some info about schools from the CDC from last week.

Not revising school reopening guidelines, just 'additional information': CDC director

 

[WichitaFalls]

I know how the USG works TY. I worked for them for more than 20 years. I only see the HHS requesting info. What do you think is the r

Me too. And I keep coming up with bizarre solutions that are nixed by Husband and other family.

We are going to see granddaughters outdoors in a park or our front yard, but with masks and no hugs and it's just not the same (we're used to having them over at the house for whole days at a time and both Mr Rods and myself have been helping with their homeschooling/online education, they give their parents way more guff than they do us).

1ofRods, I understand my question is asking you to speculate but if you would. . . what do you see this fall/winter looking like? Thanks, I value your opinion, background and all the helpful info you provide.

 

[WichitaFalls]

BBM. It gets worse.

Coronavirus In Greater Houston: HISD Going Online-Only For 6 Weeks; Hospitals Told Not To Report Data To CDC | Houston Public Media

Hospitals in Texas and across the country will no longer be reporting coronavirus data directly to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention starting Wednesday.

Instead, U.S. Health and Human Services has told hospitals to send those metrics to a private data firm called TeleTracking.

UNREAL. Surely this won't stand. Oh wait, everything about the administration of this pandemic has gone amuck since day freakin one. This bothers me greatly.

 

[tresir2012]

BBM. It gets worse.

Coronavirus In Greater Houston: HISD Going Online-Only For 6 Weeks; Hospitals Told Not To Report Data To CDC | Houston Public Media

Hospitals in Texas and across the country will no longer be reporting coronavirus data directly to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention starting Wednesday.

Instead, U.S. Health and Human Services has told hospitals to send those metrics to a private data firm called TeleTracking.

From your link

"Hospitals will be providing additional data on COVID-19 admissions, total hospitalizations, intensive care bed usage, and the number of doses administered of the antiviral drug remdesivir, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services.

The agency said data will be used, in part, to determine hospital allocations of remdesivir.

Texas DSHS issued guidance on the move Tuesday night, asking hospitals to continue sending those metrics to the state database called EMResource as well. The agency is working to update EMResource to take in the new data so state officials can eventually begin reporting that information to the federal government instead of hospitals themselves."

If you click on "issued guidance" you can see that hospitals are already using this system for Remdesivir allocations which will continue.

They will also continue to input into the existing system as well.

 

[CharlestonGal]

UNREAL. Surely this won't stand. Oh wait, everything about the administration of this pandemic has gone amuck since day freakin one. This bothers me greatly.

I want to know what gives the federal government the authority to privatize the collection of our covid data. Is that even legal?

 

[COSCitizen]

Amazon, at least, doesn't see the pandemic in the US letting up anytime soon, to judge from the news article:

Amazon extends work from home order until January 8

One of the things that made me most aware very early on about the seriousness of the pandemic was the decision for major technology companies to send their employees home to work. These companies have access to information that most people can only dream of, and what they realized very early on was that we were in for a world of hurt. MOO

 

[10ofRods]

I want to know what gives the federal government the authority to privatize the collection of our covid data. Is that even legal?

Probably not. It may go down the way the international students edict went down - although who is going to sue on this one is unclear. I can think of various groups that could. I am confident that the epidemiologists both at the CDC and at academic institutions will find a way to get the state data on death certificates (but probably not the data on hospitalizations and ICU use from every jurisdiction).

States will rapidly collect that hospitalization data, though and make it public. No point in the feds trying to sell something that's available for free. If the feds end up with granular data, though (right down to names on hospital records), who knows what will happen there? The same type of order can be made to exempt feds from HIPAA. The only entity that could enforce it would be the Department of Justice, I would think (and they won't, not right now).

 

[Reasonable & Just]

BBM. It gets worse.

Coronavirus In Greater Houston: HISD Going Online-Only For 6 Weeks; Hospitals Told Not To Report Data To CDC | Houston Public Media

Hospitals in Texas and across the country will no longer be reporting coronavirus data directly to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention starting Wednesday.

Instead, U.S. Health and Human Services has told hospitals to send those metrics to a private data firm called TeleTracking.

ETA: So, our covid data is now going to the owner of a real estate and development company.

White House Strips CDC Of Data Collection Role For COVID-19 Hospitalizations


"Since March, hospitals have reported daily information on the availability of hospital beds, ventilators and personal protective equipment to an established data collection network run by the CDC called the National Healthcare Safety Network or NHSN, which has operated for years.

As of Wednesday, hospitals are being instructed by HHS not to use that system and instead to report to a new site set up by the department using a private contractor called TeleTracking.

The new system was set up by TeleTracking, a private company based in Pennsylvania, which was awarded the $10 million contract in a noncompetitive bid in April. Sen. Patty Murphy, D-Wash., the ranking member of the Senate health committee, wrote a letter to CDC Director Robert Redfield on June 3 asking why TeleTracking was awarded the contract on a noncompetitive basis."

 

[tresir2012]

I'm actually preparing for a difficult fall and winter here. I don't see us being able to visit with loved ones any time soon. I'm trying to mentally come to grips with that.

We had to go thru it in the UK for 4 months and two areas are still in it. How long have you been shutdown?

 

[10ofRods]

Most of us here have been shut down since March 10-15. Some people sheltered before that. Some places have no shutdowns at all in the US, but that doesn't mean people aren't using common sense to keep themselves safe - they surely are.

So, for many of us, it's 4 months - but as you can see, things are getting worse, not better. Because aside from NY/NJ and adjacent states, no one really shut down.

 

[WichitaFalls]

I want to know what gives the federal government the authority to privatize the collection of our covid data. Is that even legal?

Citizens use that daily data to make serious life decisions. What replaces the data to enable us to make good decisions based on the science?

 

[Lavender Moon]

Horribly sad. These poor people.

Breaks my heart. Such a helpless feeling, thinking, " What could I ever do to help?". I guess that's where Prayer comes in. ( Yes, Prayer with a capitol "P")

 

[Tate123]

We had to go thru it in the UK for 4 months and two areas are still in it. How long have you been shutdown?

We shut down in March and we are in phase 3 right now...approaching phase 4. I cant see us getting through the fall/winter without another shut down. I hope I'm wrong.