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SouthAussie said:
Well ... here you go.

We are coming out of lockdown in a little more than 24 hours (with various restrictions still in place). Three days ahead of schedule.

Mr Pizza Box lied.


The man, who worked at the Stamford medi-hotel, told authorities he contracted coronavirus after purchasing a pizza, but it has been revealed that he was actually working at the pizza shop — increasing his exposure to the virus.
"One of the close contacts linked to the Woodville Pizza Bar deliberately misled the contact tracing team," Mr Marshall said.
"We know now that they lied. To say that I'm fuming is an understatement, we're absolutely livid about the actions of this individual.
"However, this lie still means that our contact tracers need breathing space to contact people, but not for as long."

South Australia will end its hard lockdown on Saturday night — three days early
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Wow, 2 good news.

Out of lockdown 3 days early.
The pizza box is innocent!

Whew!
 
ilovewings said:
If everybody in the supermarket is masked, doesn't that pretty much protect people in the supermarket-- maybe not 100%, but I would imagine the viral load would be much less-- I will have to assume that most of those people who may have contracted the virus at the supermarket were not wearing masks. To the best of my recall this study was in the U.K. do they not wear masks when they go to the supermarket in the UK?
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How many people are wearing their masks properly, though? How many are wearing those stupid gators and other things that don't hold back squat? If everyone was masked properly...but they aren't. Between substandard masks and people with their noses hanging out...
 
ilovewings said:
If everybody in the supermarket is masked, doesn't that pretty much protect people in the supermarket-- maybe not 100%, but I would imagine the viral load would be much less-- I will have to assume that most of those people who may have contracted the virus at the supermarket were not wearing masks. To the best of my recall this study was in the U.K. do they not wear masks when they go to the supermarket in the UK?
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How many people are wearing their masks properly, though? How many are wearing those stupid gators and other things that don't hold back squat? If everyone was masked properly...but they aren't. Between substandard masks and people with their noses hanging out...
Lilibet said:
I agree that many don’t use grocery delivery for a variety of reasons. Another reason is the added expense of Instacart. To us, it’s worth it, but to others it may be too much. We have friends who place their order online at the same store we use and pick it up curbside. We’re too lazy to drive 30 minutes round trip to do that! But I’m sure it saves them money.

With Instacart, you have to stay by your computer to respond to your shopper’s questions or substitutions. So that may be confusing for some. I try to enter the alternatives I’ll accept in my order so that cuts down on questions, but there is still some texting back and forth. I have a friend who is 80 who could never make quick decisions like this and she is extremely picky about her produce selections, so she and her immune-compromised husband shop several times a week at our local natural food co-op. :eek:

In our rural area of southern Oregon, I’ve never had a problem scheduling a shopper immediately, and we usually receive our groceries within 2 hours. But I’m sure it’s different in urban areas. For the most part, we have had excellent shoppers who have made very few mistakes.

We have used Instacart since March, thanks to WS members posting about it, and I’m not sure we will ever go back to shopping for ourselves, even when it’s safe. The shopping burden falls on my husband because of my limitations and it had gotten to be almost too much before Covid.
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We use an app and do curbside pick-up. No added fees. No running around in the covid factory.
 
 
margarita25 said:
The Coronavirus Is Airborne Indoors. Why Are We Still Scrubbing Surfaces?

“All over the world, workers are soaping, wiping and fumigating surfaces with an urgent sense of purpose: to fight the coronavirus. But scientists increasingly say that there is little to no evidence that contaminated surfaces can spread the virus. In crowded indoor spaces like airports, they say, the virus that is exhaled by infected people and that lingers in the air is a much greater threat.

Hand washing with soap and water for 20 seconds — or sanitizer in the absence of soap — is still encouraged to stop the virus’s spread. But scrubbing surfaces does little to mitigate the virus threat indoors, experts say, and health officials are being urged to focus instead on improving ventilation and filtration of indoor air.

“In my opinion, a lot of time, energy and money is being wasted on surface disinfection and, more importantly, diverting attention and resources away from preventing airborne transmission,” said Dr. Kevin P. Fennelly, a respiratory infection specialist with the United States National Institutes of Health.“

[...]

“Viruses are emitted through activities that spray respiratory droplets — talking, breathing, yelling, coughing, singing and sneezing. And disinfecting sprays are often made from toxic chemicals that can significantly affect indoor air quality and human health, Dr. Miller said.“

[...]

“In July, an essay in The Lancet medical journal argued that some scientists had exaggerated the risk of coronavirus infection from surfaces without considering evidence from studies of its closely related cousins, including SARS-CoV, the driver of the 2002-03 SARS epidemic.

“This is extremely strong evidence that at least for the original SARS virus, fomite transmission was very minor at most,” the essay’s author, the microbiologist Emanuel Goldman of Rutgers University, said in an email. “There is no reason to expect that the close relative SARS-CoV-2 would behave significantly different in this kind of experiment,” he added, referring to the new coronavirus.”

[...]

“Some experts say they are especially concerned that coronavirus droplets could spread through air vents in offices, which are crowded because the city has not yet developed a robust culture of remote work.

“People are removing masks for lunch or when they get back to their cubicle because they assume their cubicle is their private space,” said Yeung King-lun, a professor of chemical and biological engineering at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.

“But remember: The air you’re breathing in is basically communal.”“


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Many restaurants in Hong Kong installed dividers between tables.
Credit...Lam Yik Fei for The New York Times


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In Hong Kong, officials added a fleet of robots to clean surfaces in malls and subway cars.Credit...Lam Yik Fei for The New York Times

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ETA: My opinion on the matter, I’m still disinfecting the heck out of everything. Until they can say there is absolutely zero chance of surface transmission, I am not taking any chances, and again, for me a lot of it is about peace of mind. Nonetheless, I am glad to read the report and taking note of it’s scientific value.
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You are right to disinfect everything. I'm not picking up a phone at work and putting it up to my face without disinfecting it, either.
 
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September 28, 2020
Official coronavirus death toll is likely an 'underestimate' of the true total, WHO says

“But Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said the reported numbers likely represent an “underestimate” of those individuals who have either contracted Covid-19 or died as a cause of it.

“When you count anything, you can’t count it perfectly. But I can assure you that the current numbers are likely an underestimate of the true toll of Covid,” he said during a news conference at the agency’s Geneva headquarters when asked about global deaths.“
 
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https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article247290969.html

“Officials say three more people have died of coronavirus-complications linked to convocation events at a Charlotte church, now the epicenter of Mecklenburg County’s largest COVID-19 outbreak to date.

It’s been more than one month since large crowds attended church events at the United House of Prayer for All People on Beatties Ford Road. In that time, public health contact tracers and Mecklenburg officials have connected 213 COVID-19 cases to the events, which includes attendees and people who came in close contact with participants.

A total of 12 people have died.”

213 cases. 12 people dead.

The services keep going.


COVID-19 concerns over large gathering at United House of Prayer in Newport News | 13newsnow.com

United House of Prayer plans another massive, in-person event | wcnc.com

11 buses were chartered to take members from NC to VA.

Keep spreading it. No one can stop them.
 
OREGON REPORT—Sad day for the state and for my county (Jackson)

OHA reports new records and renewed determination

We are saddened to report that today marks the highest number of cases and deaths reported in a single day in Oregon since the beginning of the pandemic. OHA reports 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases and 20 new deaths.

“We offer our condolences to everyone who has lost a loved one to COVID-19,” said OHA Director Patrick Allen.

Sadly, we have also surpassed our 800th COVID-19 death today, less than three weeks after marking the 700th death. These are family, friends and neighbors, and we note their deaths with sadness and a renewed determination to suppress the spread of the virus.

“I have heard frequently from those who have refused to believe this pandemic is serious if we aren’t seeing hospitalizations and deaths. Those hospitalizations and deaths are here and are only likely to go up,” Allen said. “Please take this seriously and do what you can to slow the spread: Wash your hands, wear a mask and limit the number of people you come in close contact with.”

The freeze that Oregon began yesterday is intended to lessen the spread of the virus. People in Oregon have flattened the curve in the past, and we can do it again with these measures.
BBM
Oregon Coronavirus Update
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In the section below, I have highlighted the cases and deaths in Jackson county, the rural southern Oregon county where I live. These 8 deaths are the highest reported in one day. Up until now we have edged up about 1 or 2 at a time over several months to reach 12 last week. Now we have jumped to 20. This is devastating. :(

Oregon reports 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases, 20 new deaths
COVID-19 has claimed 20 more lives in Oregon, raising the state’s death toll to 808, the Oregon Health Authority reported at 12:01 a.m. today.

OHA also reported 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive cases of COVID-19 as of 12:01 a.m. today bringing the state total to 60,873.

The new cases are in the following counties: Baker (4), Benton (16), Clackamas (121), Clatsop (2), Columbia (14), Coos (8), Crook (6), Curry (6), Deschutes (31), Douglas (21), Grant (3), Harney (5), Hood River (8), Jackson (89), Jefferson (10), Josephine (13), Klamath (20), Lake (5), Lane (130), Lincoln (1), Linn (11), Malheur (21), Marion (84), Morrow (1), Multnomah (376), Polk (20), Umatilla (20), Union (8), Wasco (8), Washington (127) and Yamhill (36).

Oregon’s 789th COVID-19 death is a 95-year-old man in Wasco County who tested positive on Oct. 25 and died on Nov. 16, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 790th COVID-19 death is a 30-year-old man in Lane County who tested positive on Nov. 8 and died on Nov. 13, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 791st COVID-19 death is a 94-year-old man in Clackamas County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 11, at Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 792nd COVID-19 death is an 85-year-old man in Washington County who tested positive on Nov. 13 and died on Nov. 17, at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 793rd COVID-19 death is a 40-year-old man in Malheur County who tested positive on Oct. 29 and died on Nov. 7, at West Valley Medical Center in Idaho. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 794th COVID-19 death is a 66-year-old woman in Multnomah County who tested positive on Sept. 14 and died on Nov. 10, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 795th COVID-19 death is a 62-year-old woman in Multnomah County who tested positive on Oct. 5 and died on Oct. 30, at Legacy Good Samaritan Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 796th COVID-19 death is a 49-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 15, at Providence Medford Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 797th COVID-19 death is an 83-year-old man in Douglas County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 18, at Mercy Medical Center in Roseburg. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 798th COVID-19 death is a 92-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Nov. 16 and died on Nov. 18, at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 799th COVID-19 death is a 91-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 13, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 800th COVID-19 death is an 84-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Nov. 5 and died on Nov. 11, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 801st COVID-19 death is a 72-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Oct. 29 and died on Oct. 29. Place of death and presence of underlying conditions are being confirmed.

Oregon’s 802nd COVID-19 death is an 89-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 11, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 803rd COVID-19 death is a 94-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 16, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 804th COVID-19 death is an 86-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 10 and died on Nov. 14, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 805th COVID-19 death is an 81-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 10 and died on Nov. 16, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 806th COVID019 death is a 77-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 6 and died on Nov. 18, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 807th COVID-19 death is an 87-year-old woman in Grant County who tested positive on Oct. 30 and died on Nov.15. Place of death and underlying conditions are being confirmed.

Oregon’s 808th COVID-19 death is a 74-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 4 and died on Nov. 17, at Providence Medford Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Note: More information is available about Oregon’s 746th COVID-19 death, a 35-year-old man in Multnomah County. He had underlying conditions.
Oregon Coronavirus Update
 
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White House coronavirus task force briefing - Nov. 19, 2020


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Dr. Deborah Birx, White House coronavirus task force briefing - Nov. 19, 2020

While the internal government maps and documents include some additional information not yet released to the public, the overall message of concern about the pandemic is similar to what Dr. Deborah Birx, coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, conveyed on Thursday afternoon.

Speaking at the White House with Vice President Mike Pence and Dr. Anthony Fauci, she showed a series of maps and charts that pointed to general worsening trends.

“This is really a call to action to every American to increase their vigilance. Because of the graphic that is shown here,” she said, showing a chart outlining the different waves of the pandemic.

“I wanted to show the difference in slopes between the spring surge, the summer surge and fall surge,” she said. “So the American people know: This is more cases, more rapidly, than what we had seen before.”
 
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Cool Cats said:
White House coronavirus task force briefing - Nov. 19, 2020


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Dr. Deborah Birx, White House coronavirus task force briefing - Nov. 19, 2020

While the internal government maps and documents include some additional information not yet released to the public, the overall message of concern about the pandemic is similar to what Dr. Deborah Birx, coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, conveyed on Thursday afternoon.

Speaking at the White House with Vice President Mike Pence and Dr. Anthony Fauci, she showed a series of maps and charts that pointed to general worsening trends.

“This is really a call to action to every American to increase their vigilance. Because of the graphic that is shown here,” she said, showing a chart outlining the different waves of the pandemic.

“I wanted to show the difference in slopes between the spring surge, the summer surge and fall surge,” she said. “So the American people know: This is more cases, more rapidly, than what we had seen before.”
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So, what is happening with all the PPE and testing? Pence says they have been tracking hospital inventories and upped testing, and been keeping the hospitals well supplied.

But in the video in this link we hear .... (ICU nurse)
"Our hospitals have not been providing these basic protections"
"I have not been tested yet, and I have been on the front lines of this in ICU since February"


"The amount of palpable grief you can feel from those family members, the wailing that sort of gets etched on your soul, every time someone dies it stays with us forever," she said.
"So I worry about the family members and the friends and all these people that knew this person.
"But I also worry about us. Being witness to so much grief over long periods of time is really, really hard."

Up to 48,000 more Americans could die from COVID-19 by December
 
Lilibet said:
OREGON REPORT—Sad day for the state and for my county (Jackson)

OHA reports new records and renewed determination

We are saddened to report that today marks the highest number of cases and deaths reported in a single day in Oregon since the beginning of the pandemic. OHA reports 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases and 20 new deaths.

“We offer our condolences to everyone who has lost a loved one to COVID-19,” said OHA Director Patrick Allen.

Sadly, we have also surpassed our 800th COVID-19 death today, less than three weeks after marking the 700th death. These are family, friends and neighbors, and we note their deaths with sadness and a renewed determination to suppress the spread of the virus.

“I have heard frequently from those who have refused to believe this pandemic is serious if we aren’t seeing hospitalizations and deaths. Those hospitalizations and deaths are here and are only likely to go up,” Allen said. “Please take this seriously and do what you can to slow the spread: Wash your hands, wear a mask and limit the number of people you come in close contact with.”

The freeze that Oregon began yesterday is intended to lessen the spread of the virus. People in Oregon have flattened the curve in the past, and we can do it again with these measures.
BBM
Oregon Coronavirus Update
———————

In the section below, I have highlighted the cases and deaths in Jackson county, the rural southern Oregon county where I live. These 8 deaths are the highest reported in one day. Up until now we have edged up about 1 or 2 at a time over several months to reach 12 last week. Now we have jumped to 20. This is devastating. :(

Oregon reports 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases, 20 new deaths
COVID-19 has claimed 20 more lives in Oregon, raising the state’s death toll to 808, the Oregon Health Authority reported at 12:01 a.m. today.

OHA also reported 1,225 new confirmed and presumptive cases of COVID-19 as of 12:01 a.m. today bringing the state total to 60,873.

The new cases are in the following counties: Baker (4), Benton (16), Clackamas (121), Clatsop (2), Columbia (14), Coos (8), Crook (6), Curry (6), Deschutes (31), Douglas (21), Grant (3), Harney (5), Hood River (8), Jackson (89), Jefferson (10), Josephine (13), Klamath (20), Lake (5), Lane (130), Lincoln (1), Linn (11), Malheur (21), Marion (84), Morrow (1), Multnomah (376), Polk (20), Umatilla (20), Union (8), Wasco (8), Washington (127) and Yamhill (36).

Oregon’s 789th COVID-19 death is a 95-year-old man in Wasco County who tested positive on Oct. 25 and died on Nov. 16, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 790th COVID-19 death is a 30-year-old man in Lane County who tested positive on Nov. 8 and died on Nov. 13, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 791st COVID-19 death is a 94-year-old man in Clackamas County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 11, at Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 792nd COVID-19 death is an 85-year-old man in Washington County who tested positive on Nov. 13 and died on Nov. 17, at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 793rd COVID-19 death is a 40-year-old man in Malheur County who tested positive on Oct. 29 and died on Nov. 7, at West Valley Medical Center in Idaho. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 794th COVID-19 death is a 66-year-old woman in Multnomah County who tested positive on Sept. 14 and died on Nov. 10, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 795th COVID-19 death is a 62-year-old woman in Multnomah County who tested positive on Oct. 5 and died on Oct. 30, at Legacy Good Samaritan Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 796th COVID-19 death is a 49-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 15, at Providence Medford Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 797th COVID-19 death is an 83-year-old man in Douglas County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 18, at Mercy Medical Center in Roseburg. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 798th COVID-19 death is a 92-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Nov. 16 and died on Nov. 18, at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 799th COVID-19 death is a 91-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 3 and died on Nov. 13, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 800th COVID-19 death is an 84-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Nov. 5 and died on Nov. 11, in his residence. He had underlying conditions.

Oregon’s 801st COVID-19 death is a 72-year-old man in Multnomah County who tested positive on Oct. 29 and died on Oct. 29. Place of death and presence of underlying conditions are being confirmed.

Oregon’s 802nd COVID-19 death is an 89-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 11, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 803rd COVID-19 death is a 94-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 9 and died on Nov. 16, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 804th COVID-19 death is an 86-year-old man in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 10 and died on Nov. 14, in his residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 805th COVID-19 death is an 81-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 10 and died on Nov. 16, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 806th COVID019 death is a 77-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 6 and died on Nov. 18, in her residence. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Oregon’s 807th COVID-19 death is an 87-year-old woman in Grant County who tested positive on Oct. 30 and died on Nov.15. Place of death and underlying conditions are being confirmed.

Oregon’s 808th COVID-19 death is a 74-year-old woman in Jackson County who tested positive on Nov. 4 and died on Nov. 17, at Providence Medford Medical Center. Presence of underlying conditions is being confirmed.

Note: More information is available about Oregon’s 746th COVID-19 death, a 35-year-old man in Multnomah County. He had underlying conditions.
Oregon Coronavirus Update
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This is so, so terrible. Keep keeping yourself safe, Lilibet ... and everyone. It is just getting worse and worse.

"Up to 48,000 more Americans could die from COVID-19 by December, according to CDC forecast"

(per link in my previous post)
 
I am working in a clinic near the Ohio/Indiana border today. First thing in the morning I found out that the COVID test results for 6 members of one family all came back positive.

That’s mom and dad, and 4 kids. All the kids had been attending school, mom and dad both work full time. How many people have been exposed by this one family? Schoolmates, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, teachers, coworkers, etc. Have they been shopping? To restaurants?
 
The Swedish government announced today that tests for Covid-19 will continue to be free of charge for the person being tested in 2021. The tests have been free, and in my region the patient's visit to hospital/health care centre have also been free, as well as in the rest of Sweden, (as Covid-19 is considered to be a socially dangerous disease, and therefore testing and tracing is free for the patient) , and the government have reimbursed the regions for the testing, in 2020 the Swedish government have dedicated 9 billion Swedish crowns to testing and tracing for Covid-19.
Fortsatt gratis masstestning under 2021 - DN.SE
 
SouthAussie said:
So, what is happening with all the PPE and testing? Pence says they have been tracking hospital inventories and upped testing, and been keeping the hospitals well supplied.

But in the video in this link we hear .... (ICU nurse)
"Our hospitals have not been providing these basic protections"
"I have not been tested yet, and I have been on the front lines of this in ICU since February"

"The amount of palpable grief you can feel from those family members, the wailing that sort of gets etched on your soul, every time someone dies it stays with us forever," she said.
"So I worry about the family members and the friends and all these people that knew this person.
"But I also worry about us. Being witness to so much grief over long periods of time is really, really hard."

Up to 48,000 more Americans could die from COVID-19 by December
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SouthAussie said:
Things are really bad in Europe (53 countries) as well. Their current deaths are the equivalent of one person dying every 17 seconds.

One death from Covid every 17 seconds in Europe, WHO says
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SouthAussie said:
This is so, so terrible. Keep keeping yourself safe, Lilibet ... and everyone. It is just getting worse and worse.

"Up to 48,000 more Americans could die from COVID-19 by December, according to CDC forecast"

(per link in my previous post)
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Thanks @SouthAussie. I go nowhere and my husband hardly anywhere. Doing our best to stay safe.

Reading these posts, I can’t imagine why the word “dystopian” runs on a loop through my mind! /s
We are living a nightmare on so many levels.
 
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