CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #2

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

Status
Not open for further replies.
eyes4crime said:
that could very well be. How did her co-workers know she was missing? So far, there has been no mention that any of Annie's research buddies saw her. Her purse and personal items were left in the facility where Bennett was. Maybe the FBI/LE held that info back from us, but so far, no one saw Annie once in the research facility.
Click to expand...
Let me find the video of the woman in black wearing the black glasses because she stated that Annie was seen about 11:00am.
 
49175420.jpg


did she scan card? who is this holding door?and what do they have on their hand???
 
Emma Peel said:
I have a few things to add, not the least of which is that 10 Amistad houses Yale's Stem Cell research facility.

The research they do in that building is very sensitive. The entire building, each floor, each lab, is high security. Built in 2007, it’s a state of the art stem-cell research facility with all security trimmings - a modern fortress. I’ve not been in THIS building , but I’ve been in these labs before. They are targets for mischief from anti-stem-cell groups (and they know it); so the buildings are built like Fort Knox. Entrances and egresses guarded. EXTREME surveillance. Building has security clearance. Parking has security clearance. Each floor has security clearance, each lab has security clearance. In fact, a fire drill there is probably a big fat rehearsed event. The staff undergoes security & protocol training. On and on.

http://www.imakenews.com/cure/e_article000932833.cfm?x=b11,0,w

Annie worked in Anton Bennett’s lab. Based on what I’m gleaning from the literature, Anton Bennett lab does cellular metabolism research. Don’t know if this means he uses stem cells, but to anyone interested in sabatoge, it would matter only that the Bennett lab is in the stem-cell building.

Here’s Bennett’s Yale bio:
http://info.med.yale.edu/pharm/faculty/index.php?bioID=3
Here’s some Bennett lab research. There’s more on line.
http://opa.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=1760

Another thing that is so troublesome to me - her office, where she left her purse, cell, credit cards, etc, is no where near the lab building. It's 2 blocks away. I know people who do this work. It's a bit weird, to go to the lab to do lab work without your purse.

Also, she was holding a book in the video, had her security card. She was looking at the book. I think she needed an answer about something and went to the lab to talk to someone. Or, I think she was asked to come over with an answer or a reference book by someone in the lab. I just have the feeling she wasn't expecting to stay in the lab building very long.

Call me crazy, but do we need to think along such lines as: Did someone trick her into letting them into Bennett's lab?

I have some other thoughts/info. I'll post again later.

This one has my attention. I think we might see some further intrigue...:waitasec:
Click to expand...

Great post....lots of food for thought!
 
eyes4crime said:
that could very well be. How did her co-workers know she was missing? So far, there has been no mention that any of Annie's research buddies saw her. Her purse and personal items were left in the facility where Bennett was. Maybe the FBI/LE held that info back from us, but so far, no one saw Annie once in the research facility.
Click to expand...

Post 139 above indicates she had arranged a 10am slot to do some work in the lab - perhaps she was supposed to be working with someone and never showed? If her co-workers/fellow students knew her fairly well, it's likely they tried calling her cell when she didn't show - and perhaps when they couldn't get her they tried her roommate or Bennett?
 
I just looked up AB's profile on Biomed experts and it doenst look like he was involved in any research thats considered controversial, ie, stem cells, etc, The only animals used
were mice. Here is a list of disorders he was working on:

Noonan Syndrome
Insulin Resistance
Animal Disease Models
Autosomal Dominant Polycystic Kidney
Heart Valve Diseases
Septic Shock
Sequence Deletion
Obesity
 
Two things...

1) Has anyone other than Yale itself said the professor was cleared? I saw several places mention it, but it all seemed to go back to the Yale Daily News site.

2) The miscarriage possibility is interesting, but it seems like it would have had to have been VERY early if it did happen, given Annie is SO tiny, you would think anything beyond a few weeks or months the weight gain would be very noticeable on her very petite frame - and that it probably would have shown especially in wedding dress fittings. Would a miscarriage as early as it'd probably have to have been given the above still fit with how some of you were envisioning that tying in? Or am I off base? I guess just thinking about very petite friends of mine, and their pregnancies early on and how much they showed, with Annie being even MORE petite, it seems that could be one stumbling block to that possibility?
 
If she "scheduled a 10 am slot" it sounds like she had signed up to use a procedure room. That would make sense then, that she left her purse, etc in her office. Of course I am speculating, but I am familiar with this work situation.
It really sounds to me as though she entered the building and disappeared before reaching her lab and before any one she worked with saw her.
I think she never showed up, someone asked because they knew she was supposed to be at that class, but they probably thought something had come up with the wedding and she'd show up later. I don't think her co-workers would have considered her missing in the sense that they should call the police.
 
Here's Anton Bennett's schedule for a Tues class. Did I read that Annie TA'd for a pathology class of his?

PHARM 528a, Principles of Signal Transduction. Anton Bennett.
The regulation of intracellular signaling is of fundamental importance to the understanding of cell function and regulation.
This course will introduce the broad principles of intracellular signal transduction. More detailed lectures on specific
intracellular signaling pathways will be given where students will learn both the basic and most recent and cutting edge
concepts of intralcellular signaling. Topics covered will include regulation of signaling by protein phosphorylation, small
G-proteins, G protein-coupled receptors, hormones, phospholipids, adhesion and gasses.​

Tuesday and Thursday, 10:30 - 12:00 p.m., Giarman Room, SHM B-201.

http://bbs.yale.edu/images/Courses 2009_tcm176-19062.pdf
 
Scanner said:
Does anyone recall who said Annie was the best student they ever had? I think I saw it in a clip on CNN.
Click to expand...

I think I recall something similar in an article that I read last night, and I'm almost positive it was this comment by a high school teacher.

It was from this article - maybe you saw this person saying it on camera, too?

"Though some news reports suggest Annie Le may have been a bride with cold feet, all evidence still points to the contrary. According to KTXL-TV in Sacramento,Le grew up in El Dorado County, California where she was an honor student. She also volunteered at Marshall Hospital in Placerville. Combined with her doctoral pursuit and her volunteer work, it's just getting harder to believe she's a runaway bride.

Says here high school principal, Tony DeVille: "Just a top human being. She was one of the top students in her class and excelled in science. One of her science teachers said that she's the best student she ever had."

There's also this one which sort of expands:

Yale University graduate student Annie Le was an academic standout at her alma mater, Union Mine High School in El Dorado, Calif., where at least one science teacher raved that Le was the best student she ever had.

"She was the kind of student you dream of having in your class," said Tony DeVille, principal of the 1,000-student high school from which Le graduated in the top 2 percent of her class in 2003, quoting Le's anatomy and physiology teacher, Audrey Goodis. "An outstanding student."
 
wanttohelp said:
YO again, 10am, whos this? did she scan card? whats in this persons hand and whats in hers?
49175420.jpg
Click to expand...

Yeah I was going over this in the other thread. It looks like the girl leaving has winter gloves on, which I thought odd. There are also no card scanners visible on the outside of the building. The assumption is there is a second set of interior doors she scanned at, or at the actual lab.
 
Awesome information.

So how did the clothes get up inthe ceiling and what would a person stand on to reach the ceiling??
 
lucky181 said:
Here's Anton Bennett's schedule for a Tues class. Did I read that Annie TA'd for a pathology class of his?

PHARM 528a, Principles of Signal Transduction. Anton Bennett.
The regulation of intracellular signaling is of fundamental importance to the understanding of cell function and regulation.
This course will introduce the broad principles of intracellular signal transduction. More detailed lectures on specific
intracellular signaling pathways will be given where students will learn both the basic and most recent and cutting edge
concepts of intralcellular signaling. Topics covered will include regulation of signaling by protein phosphorylation, small
G-proteins, G protein-coupled receptors, hormones, phospholipids, adhesion and gasses.​

Tuesday and Thursday, 10:30 - 12:00 p.m., Giarman Room, SHM B-201.

http://bbs.yale.edu/images/Courses 2009_tcm176-19062.pdf
Click to expand...

I made that comment and now I can't find the link saying she was his TA for path. The class was at 2:00PM IIRC and in the Sterling bldg. where she left her personal belongings before walking to the the other building for her research. Maybe it isn't Bennett's class but he is her mentor and supervisor for her doctoral program. I'm sure path is an undergrad course. IF anyone knows her schedule it's Bennett..and that's probably why he was questioned so thoroughly. mho
 
I'm going to throw another idea out there.

What if the blood they found on the clothes (presumably her clothes) wasn't human?

What if either someone intentionally messed with her research (killed her lab mice?) or she accidently wrecked it herself? If it was something she had been working on for a long time, and it couldn't easily be duplicated, could she have "freaked" and took off?

Not that I really believe it - but I suppose something along those lines could have happened.
 
eyes4crime said:
Here is the info about Prof Bennett - very glad to hear he has been cleared.

Pharmacology Department chair Joseph Schlessinger said he first learned of Le’s disappearance from her faculty advisor Anton Bennett, an assistant professor in the pharmacology department. A 2007 graduate of the University of Rochester, Le is studying for a Ph.D. in pharmacology and molecular medicine.

Schlessinger said that Bennett e-mailed him yesterday around noon informing him that Le had not come in to work and that no one knew where she was. Police confiscated all of Le’s materials from the Anton Bennet Lab in the Sterling Hall Department of Pharmacology, where she worked.


http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/city-news/2009/09/09/medical-student-goes-missing/
Click to expand...


The way that this is worded, i would assume that Professor Bennett was simply alerting the department head that the TA (Annie) had not shown up for her assigned duties (time in the lab) and none of her fellow associates in the department had seen or heard from her. While this IS DEFINITELY important on the time line, I believe it is more along the lines of 'first time noticed absent' more than 'first report of being missing.' I think it was just an unfamiliar situation to Bennett (Annie not reporting for scheduled time), and he touched base with his superior's to make sure of what to do. If I am not mistaken, her family is in California, and her boyfriend is a student elsewhere, which means they (her dept. associates) would have been focusing locally to locate her in the beginning (like calling her apt, her cell phone, maybe even roommate) thinking that she was perhaps just sick.... IMHO of course.
 
SuziQ said:
Yeah I was going over this in the other thread. It looks like the girl leaving has winter gloves on, which I thought odd. There are also no card scanners visible on the outside of the building. The assumption is there is a second set of interior doors she scanned at, or at the actual lab.
Click to expand...

They look like latex lab gloves to me.
 
Thanks Lucky for the Yale calendar. The only reference to Pathology I see is on page 6 of the doc.

PATH690A: Molecular Mechanisms of Disease. Michael Robek.
Tuesdays and Thursdays 2:00 - 3:30 p.m. BCMM 206. This class will begin September 8th.
(BCMM=Boyer Centre for Molecular Medicine, 295 Congress Ave)

http://bbs.yale.edu/images/Courses 2009_tcm176-19062.pdf
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

DNASolves

Who is Fairfield County Jane Doe (1993)?

Members online

... and 111 more.
Total: 293 (members: 112, guests: 181)

Online statistics

Members online
112
Guests online
181
Total visitors
293
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
609,168
Messages
18,250,382
Members
234,549
Latest member
raymehay
Back
Top