I get motion sickness following all the cars,back and forth. All the mansions in between and beyond. Makes my head spin. Grateful for all the timeline posts. Also, overwhelmed by the depth of the advanced planning! MOO.
It is all mind numbing at this point which is why I'm begging the State for some graphics that can be seen as otherwise the JURY will be lost imo on the car and co conspirator "Three Card Monte" or "Who's on First"!
We've been following this and done lists and charts etc. and its still confusing and there are still gaps on the various co conspirators timelines.
Your point about the 'advanced planning' I think is the $1 million dollar question at this point as the State is moving into the portion of its presentation to prove out the planning and the MT conspiracy.
Listening to the WFSB Defence Atty Hussey commentary (above video I posted earlier) who I know has been following this case for awhile say he has seen the murder proven by FD but not yet the conspiracy of MT as all she has said so far in the LE interviews is that she knows 'nothing'. His POV is consistently anti-prosecution but I still found his statement interesting. He also wasn't a believer in the PG testimony due to the immunity agreement.
I've said it before but I think what might have been one of the main take aways for me with the MT LE Interviews was the whole way FD used the discredited Dr Herman report to involve MT (and likely Mama Troconis the former mental health counsellor) into the divorce/custody drama and nitty gritty of the Dulos v Dulos case. MT seemed absolutely wrapped up in the divorce to the point where she and her entire family thought FD was 'winning'. Its tough and painful to see collective delusion in action as their views are not connected to the reality of the status of the case in Family Court for Dulos v Dulos imo. But MT seemed 'all in' in the relationship with FD. I am convinced she was 'all in' even knowing all that was going on both with FORE, GF and Dulos v Dulos.
The entire discussion in the second interview about how MT took going to the FD psychologist apparently quite seriously to talk about the discredited report alleged findings and she also made claims about how the alleged 'diagnosis made her feel afraid for her own safety' etc. I initially just chalked up her comments about the psychologist visit to narcissistic extreme self involvement which was nonsense as there was no basis for any belief about being in fear for her life from someone she had never met. But, I changed my mind a bit on this after MT then had KM write up the letter which she says she delivered to the Farmington PD (same corrupt PD that released FD gun to some 'unknown' person not believed to be FD) to say she was in fear of JF. IDK if this letter to the Farmington PD was part of the 'plan' or conspiracy and its impossible to say how afraid MT really felt but oddly enough that portion of her interview seemed somewhat believable vs the rest which saw her lying about lies. I also just wonder if the financial stress of everything that was going on simply sent FD and MT into a state of total denial of reality and so they would do things like go to the psychologist to discuss the discredited report or file the report with Farmington PD; both of which were not connected to the reality of the situation where JF didn't know MT or give her much thought as she was simply trying to keep her family going amidst the trauma of the divorce and custody situation.
BUT, these two events from MT and FD, 1st the visit to psychologist and 2nd delivering the letter to Farmington PD about being in extreme fear of JF, happened ONE YEAR before the murder. To me I now see a very real solid argument for PREMEDITATION beginning around this period as the plan no doubt evolved over time. There was no rational basis for MT to feel fear of JF as JF hadn't met her and gave MT no headspace or the time of day.
My guess is that the divorce drama and hate of JF eventually drove the relationship of FD and MT possibly closer together even though it was miserable to the point where they did actively plan and execute the murder of JF, even though MT said her life in CT, "was two years in hell". I can see extreme divorce drama impacting the relationship as MT said herself that FD would be angry almost all of the time and very moody after his visits with the children.
Its honestly hard to not see the growing rage in the couple towards the divorce situation which has crushed them financially and MT had to know that the 4JX house was owned by the Farbers and that FD and she were effectively squatters and so didn't have a house and could be evicted at any time. MT put so much emphasis on the facade of wealth and so not having the house and the cars and everything else etc. had to enrage her as she knew the cars were in the name of FORE and the house didn't belong to FD.
MT being part of FORE (even though she lied about this in her LE interviews) had to know that the houses weren't selling and frankly it was doubtful that they would sell anytime soon. MT isn't stupid and seemed to know alot of details about FORE but then hid behind her lies that she knew nothing about what was going on etc. The other thing is that Atty Bowman had MT take 5th in her depositions in the Civil Case with GF/FD and then was able to have her removed from trial. The reason MT was originally called in the Civil Trial was because she was then on the payroll for $120,000 a year at the same time FD said that FORE had no revenue and she was supposedly in charge of marketing (Atty Bowman was obviously fearful on MT behalf of her being involved in the financial crimes at FORE). MT hiding behind lies about FD and FORE has been going on for a long time and imo she absolutely has to have been aware of the games FD played and ditto for PG. It always surprised me that MT didn't leave after the entire Civil trial deposition fiasco and she had to have known that GF and Atty Weinstein knew that she knew alot about FORE and FD shady dealings. But, MT never walked and instead she stayed and doubled down with FD. Its stunning to think about as he daughter was still around and living in this no doubt toxic environment too. Sadly PG did not share any of the no doubt shocking financial issues present at FORE but simply said when asked, "I didn't want his help when I built my house". I think this very simple statement probably summed up many years of PG watching FD in action build his houses in ways that PG might have known were not proper.
Wrapping around to the catalyst for the murder, I do think that the last supervised visit by FD at Welles and Grace Farms could have just been the event that simply pushed FD beyond what his ego could endure as he was being actively supervised in front of his 5 children because the Family Court said that he was not at the stage in his therapy where he could safely parent the children and so had to be supervised.
The guideline for the supervision was that he had to be in earshot and direct line of sight etc. of the Supervisor and the children saw this all happening, even if FD didn't talk about it. I speculate that his rage knew no bounds and I don't for a second believe that MT knew nothing about this rage, particularly given that per the lastest Order in Family Court she was not permitted to be around the children either.
We know from the LE interviews that MT was enraged by the Family Court not lifting her (and her daughters) no contact order with the Dulos children. Not surprisingly, MT seemed more enraged about being inconvenienced about leaving 4JX and having to plan alternative weekend plans with her daughter vs seeing the Dulos children but this just seems to be who she is as a human being! But, what I did find stunning was MT feeling the way she did about Family Court and her not seeing that she and FD using her daughter to circumvent no communication orders with the Dulos children constituted emotional abuse of her own daughter and was psychologically damaging to the Dulos children as well. Neither FD and MT got this point and even though FD was ordered to therapy MT never was and she never sought treatment on her own behalf it seems because she doesn't think she did anything wrong (she never seems to do anything wrong!).
MOO
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