Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #22

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NWLady said:
And on another thought - maybe the U-Hauls the other night that @thekirbyfamily saw in the general area were FD moving stuff out because he knew he was getting kicked out!?
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Would GF's lawyers be able to lock up the house and become the de facto owners of the furnishings once FD has been given a deadline to leave.....or has that already happened?
 
Alathea said:
I agree EXCEPT I think FD committed the actual physical part of the murder (in the garage, with a knife, or perhaps just his hands) by himself - and I think he wanted it that way.
Moo.
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I agree. He is too much of a control freak, plus he wanted the pleasure of killing Jennifer himself IMO. I think MT was waiting at the house in Farmington. How much she knew beforehand is still unknown, at least to me. Proof of her physical presence at the scene will not be necessary for a 1st degree murder conviction, though. I have every confidence LE is investigating this question or already knows its answer. She has a limited amount of time to help herself.
 
oceancalling said:
I agree. He is too much of a control freak, plus he wanted the pleasure of killing Jennifer himself IMO. I think MT was waiting at the house in Farmington. How much she knew beforehand is still unknown, at least to me. Proof of her physical presence at the scene will not be necessary for a 1st degree murder conviction, though. I have every confidence LE is investigating this question or already knows its answer. She has a limited amount of time to help herself.
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Flight risk. Both of them.

I’d be long gone. New identity in some 3rd world country, or France. No extradition reciprocity.
 
oceancalling said:
He's hedging his bets. Bowman has done a great job of staying fairly tight-lipped, which is definitely causing the C Team major heartburn. It shows exactly how much of a liar FD is. He refuses to publicly say he loves her now, or even that he ever loved her, because he doesn't know the script! Is she his friend, his foe? Is she going to tell the State everything she knows?

He has no clue, nor does his attorney. They are 'dazed and confused.' The sheer panic emanating from the two of them was a palpable as the of sheen of sweat on both their faces during those interviews.

One reason I think MT will be a prosecution witness is because she isn't running to join FD in his protestations of innocence. Bowman could easily be spouting nonsense about how the state is unfairly targeting his client but he isn't. He knows better. IMO he is counseling MT that she would be a fool to tie her fortunes to those of a cold-blooded murderer. No defender is his or her right mind would want to see that for their client. MT's only path to potential redemption is clear.

As a person begins to understand their options in such situations, many issues remain to be resolved. For instance, to what offense will the State allow her to plead? For what potential sentence? Bowman is going to want the pled offense to carry the least amount of incarceration as possible for his client - that's his job. On the other hand, the State may want a plea to a certain offense with no specific amount of agreed upon incarceration. Such discussion require complete candor, something MT has not yet displayed, publicly at least.

FD is very aware that MT can be the nuclear bomb that blows his various and sundry defenses to kingdom come. Once MT testifies, "no he wasn't home when I woke up", "yes he left his phone at home (something he never does)","no, I cannot say where was for 5-6 hours on the 24th", "yes he took the Tacoma and when he returned it had blood in it." Let's not forget that she helped in the clean up at 80MS, took EE's keys to prevent him from taking his truck home over the weekend, the Alibi Scripts, the car wash and of course, the jaunt down Albany Avenue by the two sweethearts. Those are just the events we know about. Think about how much more there is.

MT is like a rattlesnake about to strike Dulos right between the eyes. He says he was enamored of her; now, he fears her. She is the most dangerous person in the world to him right now. I don't like MT, but she continues to have a choice. Do the right thing or suffer the consequences.

MT knows much more than she is saying and it is her moral obligation to say it. Mr. Pattis and I agree on one thing - the truth IS a powerful ally. Unfortunately for him it is not, and will never be, his client's ally. Time to truth up MT!
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Yes, she is the most dangerous person to FD.
Like GF, she needs to hire an armed guard. IMOO.
 
afitzy said:
Actually both videos would be hilarious to watch. I'd like to watch her stumbling through the 'alibi scripts' as well as seeing her on video watching the Hartford technicolor Albany ride where 'she was on her cell phone'.

I see her as a doomed character now who is deeply involved in a criminal conspiracy to murder and cover up. What she does to save herself from a life in prison will be interesting to see.

But truly I see her as a 'hard nut to crack' as I frankly don't think there is an ounce of humanity in her and other than the threat of a life in prison I'm not sure LE can do much to 'motivate' her to cooperate because there is nothing in her as a human being that has the ability to understand the concept of 'doing the right thing'. Its simply not in her DNA. The usual things that might motivate a person that is a mother of a young daughter simply don't seem to be at play here because MT simply isn't motivated by any of these factors IMO.

Just think, she didn't cooperate from day 1 to assist in the missing investigation and then she proceeded to lie for 81 days and waste LE time AND THEN we see that even when confronted with pictures and evidence that MT is still challenged to answer truthfully and LE have to resort to 'pointed questioning'.

Not sure how much we need to know about who and what MT is as a human being? She through her behavior has told us all IMO. No good news on the MT front and my guess is that LE will use the 'carrot and stick' approach to get what they can from her and then will simply send her to trial.

I'm glad Bowman has kept MT from the Press circus and IMO if she were front and center in the media and done Dateline etc., I am sure the pitchforks would be out for her and calls for CT the bring back the death penalty would ring loud and furious as her behavior and actions look both diabolical and heinous IMO!

MOO
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All that talk about motivation brought home again something most of us have deduced about MT:

The girl is seriously medicated, whether it be weed or Xanax, she is messing with something guaranteed to leave her devoid of motivation.
 
13th said:
Greetings WS, my first post. I've been fascinated by this case and this thread since May. So many smart, compassionate and inciteful perspectives here.

I noticed a minor but interesting detail in the Dateline interview that I don't think has been mentioned yet. It appears FD is wearing a monogrammed shirt, visible at the 35:13 mark.
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Can you see what the monogram is? I admit I dozed a bit during the program last night. And missed quite a bit of discussion on the thread regarding the interview as well.

Welcome BTW!!!
 
Midwestmom2019 said:
Flight risk. Both of them.

I’d be long gone. New identity in some 3rd world country, or France. No extradition reciprocity.
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It is not that easy to be an international fugitive, particularly in a case like this. There is zero chance France would let two non-citizens stay in that country. FD might be able to pull something off in Greece and MT in her home country, and they do have the benefit of knowing other languages. But, and this is a huge but, the FBI and the US Marshal's Office have been involved in this investigation from inception.

In fact, the Marshal's Office was the agency that retrieved the cell phone information (location pings) for local LE. You have heard the phrase,"The Marshal's always get their man" for a reason- because they do. They are the rock stars of fugitive apprehension. FD doesn't stand a chance of successful flight IMO. Even if either of those two could get out of the country, they are coming back in handcuffs and leg chains, I guarantee it!

FD is not going to escape justice, try as he might.
 
Am I losing it or is WS scrambling our comments tonight?
They don't seem to be staying in order.
Also "likes" are going away. I'm liking lots of your excellent posts but my mind keeps getting changed electronically.
Odd.
 
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MemPat said:
All that talk about motivation brought home again something most of us have deduced about MT:

The girl is seriously medicated, whether it be weed or Xanax, she is messing with something guaranteed to leave her devoid of motivation.
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Agreed. Her flat affect in those interviews makes me think either benzos or SSRI drugs. Weed, maybe, unless drug testing is a condition of release (assuming recreational not legal in CT?), but definitely some strong medication. Perhaps a combination of pharmaceuticals? Her eyes are weird, too, not intense like FD's, much more unfocused. She needs to get her head straight IMO.
 
LittleBitty said:
Can you see what the monogram is? I admit I dozed a bit during the program last night. And missed quite a bit of discussion on the thread regarding the interview as well.

Welcome BTW!!!
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Welcome to WS. Yes. It's his monogram "FPD". Not sure I've seen mention his middle name. Maybe the "P" stands for Pattis?????
 
oceancalling said:
I agree. He is too much of a control freak, plus he wanted the pleasure of killing Jennifer himself IMO. I think MT was waiting at the house in Farmington. How much she knew beforehand is still unknown, at least to me. Proof of her physical presence at the scene will not be necessary for a 1st degree murder conviction, though. I have every confidence LE is investigating this question or already knows its answer. She has a limited amount of time to help herself.
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oceancalling said:
It is not that easy to be an international fugitive, particularly in a case like this. There is zero chance France would let two non-citizens stay in that country. FD might be able to pull something off in Greece and MT in her home country, and they do have the benefit of knowing other languages. But, and this is a huge but, the FBI and the US Marshal's Office have been involved in this investigation from inception.

In fact, the Marshal's Office was the agency that retrieved the cell phone information (location pings) for local LE. You have heard the phrase,"The Marshal's always get their man" for a reason- because they do. They are the rock stars of fugitive apprehension. FD doesn't stand a chance of successful flight IMO. Even if either of those two could get out of the country, they are coming back in handcuffs and leg chains, I guarantee it!

FD is not going to escape justice, try as he might.
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There is some American criminal in France. For the last 20 years. Polanski, maybe?
Anyway, the guy has been there forever and a day. We cannot get him back here.
I’d be in France. FD might choose Greece. MT who knows. She has a daughter. FD has 5, but IMOO, he thinks he has ZERO. Too much trouble to be a father.
And he’s right. He’s lost them.
 
LittleBitty said:
It’s me! I was struck by lightning earlier during a minor rain shower earlier. Just kidding.

I thought it was just my slow slow internet tonite.
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Ha! I think it's my computer saying, "You're way too obsessed with this case. Go do something!"
(I just finally caught up. Don't anybody say a word!!)
 
oceancalling said:
Agreed. Her flat affect in those interviews makes me think either benzos or SSRI drugs. Weed, maybe, unless drug testing is a condition of release (assuming recreational not legal in CT?), but definitely some strong medication. Perhaps a combination of pharmaceuticals? Her eyes are weird, too, not intense like FD's, much more unfocused. She needs to get her head straight IMO.
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The eyes got me too.
I thought they looked like eyes that had seen something so shocking they could hardly bear to focus now.
 
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