Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #25

[Jen3135]

IMO, idealistic millennials in forensics will crack the technology and put both FD+MT behind bars for murder one. Recent law school grads, including the ones from the Ivys, are turning away from bar association membership in droves. Smart millennials graduating today don't buy into MSM, main stream advertising, fake news and the old boy network. IMO, the forensic team is cross referencing the infotainment/GPS systems now and we are going to be blown away by the detail in AW3. You go Team Colangelo! As for the ankle monitor, I tend to want FD out and about town, even with the flight risk. FD has given LE some good intel during the past couple of months. Including revealing his true obsession: the place he first went to after being released from prison - see pics in The Daily Mail, a surprising source of reporters actually investigating. The old adage is true: the murderer always returns to the scene of the crime. If FD was able to manage his impulses, he wouldn't have gotten himself and everyone who once cared for him involved in his own private horror show. Party girl MT is pretty tough, IMO. The years of being used in Dubai and Miami has hardened MT and she truly believes that a slick image: hair, jewelry and designer clothes will carry her through this. Even dressing up her father for the show. I'll take the sow's ear over this silk purse. MOO.

I want to see him make a break for it and get caught doing it.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Bunnies 4 lyfe ???
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No idea! A Google search on terms like sideways peace sign and variations found sites as diverse as Quora (so interesting!), Urban Dictionary (not a site for the easily shocked but often useful in regard to slang especially for teens and college students), and CafeMoms (seems to address many issues related to kids including teens and college students) and they all pretty much said it means “peace out.” Asked a few college kids and some lovely, ever-interesting, very “hip” people who had a blast in the 60’s and still know about cool stuff, and they were all like, “Peace out, man”! Lol! That’s all I know! MOO!

 

[hivee]

I agree that DA seems to be acting as a PR mouthpiece for FD and NP. He's not coming across as an objective reporter who wants to get to the truth for The Hartford Courant. His coverage is extremely focused on giving excuses for all of the defendant's misconduct and creating a narrative more favorable for the accused (by not fact checking comments coming from that camp and presenting claims as facts which later are refuted as fabrications by NP/DF). It's transparent and irritating. I hope people are complaining to the Hartford Courant. Shoddy journalism at its finest.

I hope people are complaining and calling it out as well. Or people here on this site could start emailing complaints. We are already a movement of sorts on this forum.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

MOO completely here...I think the second AW filed on MT was a gut punch for Bowman and not expected even though it seemed like they got a heads up to turn MT in vs LE showing up to haul her away like they did for FD and her bail amt was lower than FD.

I also do wonder if Colangelo was clear that more charges are coming and MT will get more charges and possibly even a murder charge and this is what has resulted in the MT team looking grim IDK. Bowman is an experienced prosecutor so IMO knows how this game is played but IMO his job becomes very very difficult once the charges start to stack up and especially if murder charge or even manslaughter charges are filed. Just based on the MT charges now it doesn't look like she can avoid meaningful prison time IMO. I don't sense the situation in terms of prison time will get better, but can certainly get worse.

The issue is that we actually know very little about MT role in the overall crime other than her very active role in the Red Truck situation. Her timeline hasn't been disclosed by LE by design IMO as perhaps they are still trying to figure it out but also perhaps that they know what she has done and are using their evidence to gain her cooperation. IDK but something seems to be going on with the way the State is working with Bowman and MT.

The other thing we do not know is whether MT herself was the catalyst behind the alleged murder of JD. Did MT either orchestrate something or try to orchestrate something along with FD and the plan fell apart? We just don't have enough info at this point to say one way or another, but I don't think we can discount that MT was a major component in the overall plan and execution of this tragic crime. As others have said, its very possible that MT herself cannot own up to her role in the crime and perhaps that is what is taking so long in terms of the State or even her atty being able to work with her? IDK.

MOO

Thanks! Very helpful! Reading all the smart, informed perspectives here teaches me so much!

 

[hivee]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. That 911 call is from 2017, no? Possibly when she took the children and left him. I think he didn't notify the police in May. They notified him.

MOO

Correct, when she left him in 2017. He calls 911...because his wife is leaving him.

 

[LosAngeles]

Wait. NP is quoting the Wicked Witch of the West? And someone else was the man behind the curtain earlier, right? Surreal. MOO.

I wonder if "not properly charging" is akin to "tampering", which is a Felony. Hmmm.

 

[Alathea]

Correct, when she left him in 2017. He calls 911...because his wife is leaving him.

It's almost funny, no? So absurd. He calls 911 because his wife is leaving him - even though he's conducted a blatant affair with MT for over a year already at that point (and if I recall correctly, he'd even moved the new girlfriend into the HOUSE!).

If the 911 folks said "that guy's a psycho!" after the call, they'd have been spot on.

 

[Jen3135]

I do not agree that the negotiations have broken down, but I do agree that Coangelo is making clear to MT where she is headed if she doesn't begin speaking the whole truth. Let's not forget that she has demolished Dulos' so-called alibi and admitted the Alibi Scripts were fabricated. That is not a small thing. She may not be telling LE the entire truth, but she has not been thrown out the door. Yet. That last charge was as much a warning to MT as it was a message to Dulos. Cooperate fully or face more charges.

Another indicator that negotiations are still in play is that she was allowed to turn herself in on the new AW, with a bond set at a fifth of what Dulos was required to pay. The bond was set by the judge based upon Coangelo's recommendation, AND she was allowed to turn herself in the day after Dulos was arrested. Bowman received notice of MT's arrest in advance; Pattis was not afforded the same courtesy. Also, while every defendant may be escorted to their car by LE after court in CT, that most assuredly is not SOP in most places - unless specifically instructed to do so. Which leads me to the final indicator, and that is the speed and virtual silence of that last hearing. The lawyers do not want to put anything on the record, but I feel quite certain that the in-chambers discussion was much more candid. I wonder if that is where the discussion of the LE escort occurred, because it sure didn't occur on the record. All of these small things lead me to conclude negotiations are still occurring.

There is much more going on behind the scenes here than we know at present, but again, LE is not going to negotiate anything until MT tells the complete, unvarnished truth. Her well-experienced attorney is quite aware of that fact. but perhaps MT still thinks she can emerge from this case unscathed.(She can't). Neither party has yet walked away from the table IMO, but Coangelo is surely letting Bowman know he expects MT's fuzzy memory to improve. As one of my mentors was fond of saying, "time will tell."

Bravo!

 

[aaron44]

I think the fact that he tried to get the kids before he met with LE tells us what his plans were. He thought he was going to get them that day IMO.

Like the PI on Dr. Phil, I believe Dulos thought he had planned the perfect murder. What he failed to account for was modern day forensics, good investigative work, some luck, some blood sweat and tears, an employee with a moral compass and a girlfriend who needed an Alibi Script to keep their story straight.

As soon as Jennifer disappeared, her poor mother had to have thought the worst. Can you imagine what the scene was like that day at Dr. Farber's condo when Dulos arrived to demand custody of those kids?? I hope they did witness any of his nonsense. I imagine Dulos did not want to leave quietly.

I was thinking this scenario. FD used this trip the morning of the 25th to transport and dispose of JD on the way to NYC. FD killed JD in NC and moved her body from the Suburban to the EE Tacoma where the car was parked on Lapham Rd. He then drove JD to 4JC and/or 80MS to dismember and stage her remains. He then drove with MT to Albany to get rid of the peripheral evidence. The next morning 5/25 he then takes JD remains with him back on his way to NYC to dispose of? Maybe toss her in containers off the Willis Avenue Bridge into the Harlem/East River which doesn't have tolls and is the way to get to the Upper East Side from Connecticut and the Bronx. MOO.

 

[Jmoose]

EXACTLY. EXACTLY. EXACTLY.

DR. GF Knew Exactly what had happened to JF and I am So Glad that she had the foresight to Protect these children with Armed Guards.

IMO.

If she (GF) didn’t have armed guards at her 5th Ave. apt, what would he likely have done-shoved her out of the way, and absconded with the kids? I think he would have. That would have been a very bad thing for him to do, after carefully (but stupidly) planning out the murder of JD-he was lucky that GF saved him from himself. This would have been more circumstantial evidence against him.

 

[LittleBitty]

Really FD has just tons of nerve (wanted to use another word but there are rules).
1. Wants his kids and misses and loves them so much BUT hasn’t paid child support in like 2 years. I am sure he spent all sorts of money on his shifty mistress. And funneling funds to his family.
2. Brow beats his wife routinely and abandons his marriage traveling 3/4 months out of the year to waterskii and party and fool around BUT it’s JD that’s so horrible to have left him. The absolute gall of JD for abandoning him in fear with the kids. What a mean spirited person JD was for not wanting to live in the same house with his mistress and her daughter.
3. Everyone else is at fault. He was clearly raised to believe this is so.
4.is a total mooch and terrible home developer with zero common sense about where to build his fugly McMansions but refuses to allow anyone to see his financial books. Because he managed to bilk JD’s family fund for all it was worth and likely had help from Medusa I mean MT to cook those books.
5. What’s up with NP and the Wizard of Oz? Does he want a change of venue to Kansas or the Emerald City? Clearly he needs to brush up his Greek Tragedies? Or Turkish melodramas? May I suggest reading oedipus Rex?

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

It's almost funny, no? So absurd. He calls 911 because his wife is leaving him - even though he's conducted a blatant affair with MT for over a year already at that point (and if I recall correctly, he'd even moved the new girlfriend into the HOUSE!).

Not something you’d hear in a blues song, for sure. What a loser.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Yes, I believe that 12 am is incorrect...FD went to NY in the afternoon on the 25th. So my guess is between 12pm and 1 pmish as I don't think it was picked up by the NYP until that evening and then other papers picked it up the following day if I recall.

I hate to say this but in my experience only, many people—smart and others maybe not—get 12:00 AM and 12:00 PM mixed up, resulting in errors like that when someone else is looking at times and not thinking or knowing the context. I try to say noon or midnight to forestall that but it doesn’t always work like on official forms. MOO.

 

[nina318]

I agree that DA seems to be acting as a PR mouthpiece for FD and NP. He's not coming across as an objective reporter who wants to get to the truth for The Hartford Courant. His coverage is extremely focused on giving excuses for all of the defendant's misconduct and creating a narrative more favorable for the accused (by not fact checking comments coming from that camp and presenting claims as facts which later are refuted as fabrications by NP/DF). It's transparent and irritating. I hope people are complaining to the Hartford Courant. Shoddy journalism at its finest.

I agree, but sadly, this happens. That is why it is imperative that people research and draw their own conclusions based on facts. MOO!

 

[Jen3135]

Imagine FD does book, how's LE going to look?

Oh I think he might try (Scott Peterson) but he won't get very far.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

So, if FD and MT could go back in time right now, would FD not go through with the murder and would Mt (if not involved in the planning) have turned him in from the get go? As reality sets in on them? Idk. MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I'd assume there is some indicator when the battery is on or off, no? The fact that he didn't report it if there WERE an issue with it malfunctioning is an issue all by itself. I'd assume there is some agreement that if it's not working he needs to let them know that.

You would assume the business checks the ability of the battery to take a full charge and the ability of the charger to complete a full charge especially in a case like this. And even if not, when a person’s freedom is predicated by having the monitor on, it seems reasonable to assume that the person would be hypervigilant about making SURE it was working right—and if not, would be calling ASAP to get it fixed. But this is FD, and it reminds me of the car-GPS issue when he roamed out of state. No big deal, said NP, then, too. Ack. MOO.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Oh I think he might try (Scott Peterson) but he won't get very far.

I have to think that unlike the average person out on parole with a bracelet or something, which definitely can slip through the cracks, that LE has eyes all over FD right now and are watching his every move around the clock. Don’t need a warrant to do that.

 

[Bulldogs2]

It's almost funny, no? So absurd. He calls 911 because his wife is leaving him - even though he's conducted a blatant affair with MT for over a year already at that point (and if I recall correctly, he'd even moved the new girlfriend into the HOUSE!).

If the 911 folks said "that guy's a psycho!" after the call, they'd have been spot on.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[LittleBitty]

So, if FD and MT could go back in time right now, would FD not go through with the murder and would Mt (if not involved in the planning) have turned him in from the get go? As reality sets in on them? Idk. MOO.

That’s probably the most interesting thing to ponder. I wonder what either one of them would do differently. Based on the information we have and can infer of their “character” I’d be curious to know what each one would do. For sure