Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #35

[spaz1959]

Wasn't Mama A's strategy to lie, lie, lie - with her own crimes? (Such a nice family...)

Yes, it does seem she is advising dear daughter to lie and she'll get away with it too, like she did... not realizing murder in CT is very different than Mama A's financial crimes (although they were pretty awful).

MT's not getting away with anything. She had her chance to sing. She didn't. Too bad.

Not to mention the videos, or MT DNA on trash bags along with JD! It's absolutely beyond my comprehension why anyone is cutting MT any slack. She's involved from beginning to end!

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I’m guessing you are correct that the state is trying to flip KM.. They are banking on the fact that he isn’t as loyal to FD as MT is ... he‘ll squawk to save his own hide . I think they are onto something . FD is toast and MT is a complete imbecile for not turning states evidence . Even if FD threatened her daughter what are the odds he could do anything with her being in Argentina?

Criminal tentacles can reach a very long way. Hit men fly in, take care of their mark and get home in time for dinner. It’s really a war out there. Any police officer who is not corrupt will tell you that as a fact. Dirty cops cover for each other, for criminals and anyone else who will pay for their “protection.” Clean cops look the other way. Or something happens to them during a drug raid, traffic stop or domestic dispute. A drop gun or so called throw down gun. Unregistered. Taken from the evidence room. That’s the murder weapon of choice to silence those who don’t fall into line.
Welcome to the real world.

 

[LittleBitty]

Great Summary!

Still processing the KM grave at the Windsor Rod and Gun Club. None of this crew looks up to grave digging but maybe KM is stronger than he appears! IDK.

Per AW3 it appears we now have Fd with a vintage French Bike riding in NC to get to 69/71 Welles garage and mudroom to kill JFd with a blunt object/s and secured the body with zip ties! Escape from 69/71 Welles is via JFd own Suburban which is driven to Waveny/Lapham Rd. where the body and bike are moved into EE Toyota Tacoma for places unknown (possibly 80 MS or another FORE property)!

KM and MT back in Farmington waiting for orders at 4Jx both staring at Fd cell phone sitting on a desk!

MOO

TY @afitzy
We all owe you a ton and a few others for keeping up the posting through the last two months. I even fell off too. So thank you!
KM looks so unhinged in that one booking photo. I bet unhinged people are great diggers of graves? Wonder what equipment if any he used and if that came from FD. It likely was for his ex but man oh man can u imagine coming up on a grave site like that with two unopened bags of lime? Wow.

I’m beyond stunned FD used his uncommon childhood bicycle to murder his wife. Things were so thought out and planned but then as you said he leaves JDs suburban running with lights on and leaves her purse at home. Maybe he just did NOT want to have her keys or purse in case he was found with those items. Can’t prove she GG herself or was kidnapped by some rando if you are somehow found with her suburban keys and purse!? I don’t know.

The fact that his DNA is found by swabbing they inside knob/plate of mud room door is really interesting. We all knew that his DNA was mixed with hers on kitchen sink. Didn’t know it was a bloodline stain until today though. The mudroom swabbing inside the knob/plate of mudroom door is gonna be tough to explain away. He was never allowed in the house. He did not go into the house on 5/22 according to multiple witnesses and according to MT when they were concocting their alibi scripts she had asked him if he went into JD home on 5/22 and he said he did NOT.
Have fun with that Pattis! Have fun with that!

what a fun morning for KM and MT staring at creepy FD phone. Yeah MT really didn’t know what FD was doing during the trashbin odyssey of stupidity because she was zoned out on her phone while he’s dumping garbage bags she helped to fill? And also calling KM to say crazy stuff? But she didn’t know there was anything going on. It only took her three interviews to admit FD wasn’t at 4Jax on 5/24 morning but Bowman said she’s cooperating. Well I guess by that she’s cooperating more than say FD but have fun with the sexcapade on the Tacoma and the wonky lies in the interviews and the fact that MT dna all over the crime scene clean up stuff LE recovered on Albany Avenue, Bowman! You have fun with that! Your sweet little woman is a sociopath. She had sex with a murderer right after cleaning up the blood from the wife of his 5 kids. She’s sick. Fotis is sick. Have fun trying to normalize either one of these creatures for a jury cuz I can promise you once the jurors hear about the Tacoma sexcapade Nothing and I mean nothing will matter. You can float your GG theories and your someone else like the EE did this or some rando did this but the jurors see
The bag contents with JDs blood in them and FD and MT prints and dna and hear how after all this mess from the Tacoma was cleaned up that these two freaks hooked up on the truck. Done.

If I’m KM I’m gonna try and make a deal if I know anything of value. Jmo. MT isn’t smart enough to make a deal I don’t believe.

 

[spaz1959]

Criminal tentacles can reach a very long way. Hit men fly in, take care of their mark and get home in time for dinner. It’s really a war out there. Any police officer who is not corrupt will tell you that as a fact. Dirty cops cover for each other, for criminals and anyone else who will pay for their “protection.” Clean cops look the other way. Or something happens to them during a drug raid, traffic stop or domestic dispute. A drop gun or so called throw down gun. Unregistered. Taken from the evidence room. That’s the murder weapon of choice to silence those who don’t fall into line.
Welcome to the real world.

Part of the real world, thankfully not all of it.

 

[MassGuy]

So he destroyed his own bike that he had since a child for 1 ride?

He doesn’t strike me as the sentimental type. His priority was getting away with murder, and he couldn’t leave evidence laying around.

The fact that he left a mountain of evidence in his wake, notwithstanding.

 

[afitzy]

All of them. Just clear the
system of the good ole boys. Try them in front of a jury. Not the State Bar. Get an out of state or retired lawyer to file one big lawsuit against all of them. With the public as the lawyer’s client. People of Connecticut. Or a multiple number of plaintiffs who would spearhead the group.
As twisted as the CT system appears to be, there are avenues to stop this court group.
Texas has the Texas Rangers. I’m sure there are other state or federal groups that investigate crime committed by officials. An elite group that has been charged with and accepted a sacred duty to protect the public from crime committed by those hired to combat crime. Black Ops. Green Berets. Navy Seals. I’m sure there are others.

Sadly the Texas Rangers are in Texas (wish they could be loaned out for a special mission in CT though!). There is no CT equivalent of the Texas Rangers unfortunately. The long awaited generation change to the CT State Police never happened as the 'new' senior management appear to be retreads retired from the Hartford PD by all accounts. Not sure there is much to be optimistic about with CT LE sadly. If you saw the CT Supreme Court when Atty. P. argued his 'gag order' appeal I'm not sure that was the most impressive group going either as it was unclear whether all the justices really understood the substance of the convoluted argument set forth by Atty. P. Not sure where there is a glimmer of bright light in CT judiciary? Perhaps Atty Colangelo who has brought some reform to his district and is now 1 of 6 being considered for the highest job in the States Atty Office? IDK.

Sadly the ball just keeps on rolling and rolling in the judiciary in CT as nobody seems to care about reform and squeaky Judges simply don't get renewed or so it seems! Judges don't seem to believe in censuring attys (based in part on the statements of the Judge in the Jones' case against Atty. P.).

The GAL system continues to get widespread criticism and so some fainthearted comments are made recently in judiciary about some changes coming down the pike. I'm not sure anything has or will be changed.

Judge Heller term was just extended last year I believe so absent some act of GOD she sadly remains on the bench IMO.

We've not heard from anyone in Hartford judiciary about the conduct of ANY of the cases in which Fd has been involved with. Not even a peep in CT House or Senate Judiciary committees either so far as I know too. Its sad.

I'm not sure how any system changes in CT? Most people simply end up leaving the State as its too expensive to retire in and so the games keep recycling in Hartford and nothing ever changes. Lots of money gets delivered to Hartford each year but sadly little of it returns from where it came IMO. The Hartford State tax cycle forces local tax increases to the point where retirement in CT becomes impossible for most. If you look at the dialog in House and Senate, even they can't seem able to do anything to help the financial health of CT other than most recently to argue about tolls.

Sad situation and IMO its simply easier to move and leave CT in the rear view mirror as we saw @thekirbyfamily do while this case was ongoing! Just pack up the RV and hit the road and know that if you ever return to CT things will be just as you left them!

MOO

 

[MsJosie]

Multiple Choice:
(a) GAL Michael 'Maserati' Meehan
(b) Judge Heller / Judge Noble
(c) Atty Pyetranker (facilitated Fd financial games in Family Court IMO)
(d) Atty. P. and S
(e) Atty BM
(f) Atty KM
(g) Atty Riccio and Fd prior atty's in Family Court

Pick one or pick 'em all IMO!

MOO

I vote. ALL

 

[afitzy]

Who dug it, was anyone ever in it ... could it have been tested and shown lime and a body were ever in it ? This is obscene !!

The AW today stated that LE checked out the grave with dogs and tests and found nothing.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed>... reading her responses in AW3 have me a bit concerned about her on a number of fronts, especially as Atty Bowman was with her every step of the way in her meetings with LE and he no doubt heard much much more than we heard about today in AW3.

How could MT think that repeating the 'alibi scripts' was the way forward here? Once Atty Bowman learned of the 'alibi scripts' in the meetings with LE, did he advise his client to not continue to spout the 'alibi script' nonsense?

From reading AW3, I'm not convinced MT told Atty Bowman much of anything either in terms of what happened. But if Atty Bowman realised that MT wasn't sharing the truth with LE then why allow her to continue to talk to LE?

MT didn't just lie for 1 or 2 meetings but she continued to lie and be uncooperative throughout IMO. Why did Atty Bowman facilitate all the meetings with LE when he saw what was going on with his client in terms of her responsiveness to questioning?

I can only imagine how Mama A would have responded in a similar circumstance to that of MT in the various meetings with LE here. Mama A was present at the meetings with LE too I believe (she was seen escorting MT but we don't know if she was allowed in the meeting). I wonder if there is some strategy here with MT that has been plotted by Mama A and atty's unknown that we are simply missing? IDK.

MOO

Great thinking as always, @afitzy, on some of the unknown aspects of MT's 'situation' all along & in light of today's arrests.

My guess is that the strategy for MT's 'defense' includes:
(1) 'deny, deny, deny' (thanks to Mama A for the experiential wisdom & any and all hoodlums they associate with in whatever circles in CT & abroad) and/or do the "I know nothing, I saw nothing" shtick
(2) KISS (keep it simple stupid, or is it keep it stupid simple?) and play dumb / collude with other criminals to put forth a story of innocence/victim blaming as long as possible
(3) trump up & continue to pretend there's a language/cultural barrier preventing her from understanding LE / lawyer judge questions and participating fully with her issues of citizenship, ESL & globe trotting 'status'
(4) try to stick as close as possible to any early admissions she possibly can (e.g., whatever aspects of the 'alibi scripts' that were not totally blown up along the way)
(5) grasp at any straws if all else fails and admit to the things LE had proof of only in the strictest sense (e.g., "yeah, you said her body must have been in the vehicle with blood in it, so yeah you said that", and "Yeah, I was in the vehicle with FD in Hartford that night when he was disposing of items with JFd's blood on them, but I was on my phone & didn't know what he was doing, I was just along for the ride"), rinse & repeat (1) - (4)

Dunno, dumbo, what-ho?! MOO

 

[LittleBitty]

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The guys who stumbled upon this “grave” site said that they knew it was intended as an actual grave not anything to do with the club .

Yep. It should be mentioned that KM secured the land for the club and founded it approximately 12-15 years ago. Then about 5/6 years ago KM left the club. There are a total of 5 members for the Windsor Rod and Gun Club. Only they and they alone are allowed to access the property which is surrounded by a logging fence that can be opened with a secret key that only members of the club know about. KM called one member in March/April asking to renew his membership and wanting to know how to access the property. This member told KM about the secret key. Two other members stumbled upon the grave on 5/18 and spoiled the site. One of them returned on 5/22 and said lime bags were gone. The other of the two members came back in early June and said it was neat as a pin. KM cell pinged at this club on 3/29/19 for about 30 plus minutes and again on 5/31/19 that we know of from the KM AW. It’s clear he’s involved with the grave somehow. Jmo.

id be hoping if I’m LE that KM will talk to me kWIM? I think LE is done with MT unless she can provide some real information like where JD is or murder weapon or even what FD told her about what happened. But how can you trust it? Km is also a creep and a liar but the case against him while strong isn’t as powerful as the one against FD and MT. Maybe he knows enough of something. Wonder what he was doing on the night of 5/24? I think they purposely leave things out of the AWs because if LE gets to interview any of them again it’s important not to show them everything they have. So if you can catch them in a lie because the person may not realize everything LE has. They have a lot y’all. What we got was a bare bones water down version of just enough info to make sure charges are filed

 

[Twistinginthewind]

The AW today stated that LE checked out the grave with dogs and tests and found nothing.

Yeah, probably cuz they had to abandon the site before using it due to the 'unexpected publicity'...

 

[Jen3135]

My dad belonged to a gun club for decades. No, they don't dig holes, cover them with grates and leave guns or lime there! Sorry, the thought makes me laugh a bit. They also shot wild game and I've never heard of a hole being dug for disposing of parts of a carcass either. Something weird definitely going on there.

Also, there were only 5 members of this club, and it was fenced. KM had recently learned about a hidden key to gain access. One of the six dug the hole.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

All of them. Just clear the
system of the good ole boys. Try them in front of a jury. Not the State Bar. Get an out of state or retired lawyer to file one big lawsuit against all of them. With the public as the lawyer’s client. People of Connecticut. Or a multiple number of plaintiffs who would spearhead the group.
As twisted as the CT system appears to be, there are avenues to stop this court group.
Texas has the Texas Rangers. I’m sure there are other state or federal groups that investigate crime committed by officials. An elite group that has been charged with and accepted a sacred duty to protect the public from crime committed by those hired to combat crime. Black Ops. Green Berets. Navy Seals. I’m sure there are others.

Yes, MWM!! A Special Counsel is needed, IMO, to investigate the corruption & incompetence & lawlessness that led to an innocent woman's murder at the hands of her husband after years of documented threats & abuse. Gross misconduct, ad nauseum, can not be swept under the rug anymore in the Nutmeg State

 

[Midwestmom2019]

The skanky little putz got a cash advance from a company based in Utah...bawahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

What company? I’m about to wrangle with a Utah financial company.

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

No, there are still significant info gaps so there is much more to come. The evidence list IMO is highly abbreviated and zero is disclosed about MIRA and we saw no photographs in today's warrants either.

The narrative is being filled in by LE but still a ways to go IMO and LE said today that the investigation is ongoing. Will we see charges for any of the other FD 'friends'? Will we see charges for financial crimes?

Just looking quickly at the financial information in terms of local loans given by Peoples Bank of Bridgeport and Danbury Savings Bank, you just have to wonder if there might be additional collateral for these loans or are both banks relying on selling the various 'white elephant' FORE real estate? Based on AW3 and the Danbury Savings Bank foreclosure documents that were filed last week, Fd hasn't even been able to keep interest current on his loans?

Will bankruptcy be next legal professional hired by Fd? Or, will the Greek Benefactor step in and save Fd? I do wonder if Fd purposely set out to defraud two local financial institutions? If Fd was going to some next day loan operation in UT then he knew he was in deep trouble with no way back? Or, is he? How much did he possibly skim from JFd over the years? I'm not sure the $2 million trust set up for the children would have solved his financial issues either? Still many many questions here unanswered IMO.
MOO

Agree - MANY unanswered questions regarding his finances.

Also, NP seemed very confident this am when he was interviewed leaving 4 JXing that his client would be able to make the $6 million dollar bail. How's that possible? Where would cash be coming from? Greek benefactor? (which I still mostly think is him). Most of the real estate FD has in CT seems like it's encumbered so won't be available as collateral for bail. I recall @thekirbyfamily saying she saw a lot of Fore Group for sale signs on vacant land near one of his other homes (MS?) so maybe he can offer up those properties? IDK. The whole situation seems so fishy to me.

 

[spaz1959]

IMO KM will be the only one to sing. I bet he's a soprano, or will be if he doesn't sing. Nope, he will be wheeling and dealing those two love birds, FD and MT to get a good deal for himself. How fast will this go to trial? 1 1/2 years?

 

[Herat]

Past her prime. Road hard and put up wet. And substance abuse destroys brain matter. Thinks she can attract and keep a man with sex.
Remember as a teenager, she was already in trouble, spending time with horses to help her mental health. Maybe she’s wired wrong and life experiences made her brain even worse. Who stays in a middle eastern country as a single white woman. They didn’t need her to ride their horses. They rode her right into the ground. In more ways than one, I would guess.
Maybe she really cannot get it bc her brain synapses don't fire correctly.

Please don't even hint at a diminished capacity defense.

There are enough lawyers that troll here that one might just pick this up

 

[Outforjustice]

Early on in the case. Many WS discussed some kind of deep grave ... I wonder why on gun club property and not some remote woods.

There is so much more here ...

It was the perfect location so ..they thought.

No hikers, No public access, it was a Gun Club (anyone trespassing would be scared to get shot ) private club/members only
(of which There only seemed to few members), easy to hide a body with so few people around .

Location not connected to FD, Needed a key to access the grounds , maybe a trail or road which would allow a car to be driven with lye , grates and then a body. LE wouldn’t be looking here , they’d be focusing on woods by JD’s house .
Moo

 

[afitzy]

Great thinking as always, @afitzy, on some of the unknown aspects of MT's 'situation' all along & in light of today's arrests.

My guess is that the strategy for MT's 'defense' includes:
(1) 'deny, deny, deny' (thanks to Mama A for the experiential wisdom & any and all hoodlums they associate with in whatever circles in CT & abroad) and/or do the "I know nothing, I saw nothing" shtick
(2) KISS (keep it simple stupid, or is it keep it stupid simple?) and play dumb / collude with other criminals to put forth a story of innocence/victim blaming as long as possible
(3) trump up & continue to pretend there's a language/cultural barrier preventing her from understanding LE / lawyer judge questions and participating fully with her issues of citizenship, ESL & globe trotting 'status'
(4) try to stick as close as possible to any early admissions she possibly can (e.g., whatever aspects of the 'alibi scripts' that were not totally blown up along the way)
(5) grasp at any straws if all else fails and admit to the things LE had proof of only in the strictest sense (e.g., "yeah, you said her body must have been in the vehicle with blood in it, so yeah you said that", and "Yeah, I was in the vehicle with FD in Hartford that night when he was disposing of items with JFd's blood on them, but I was on my phone & didn't know what he was doing, I was just along for the ride"), rinse & repeat (1) - (4)

Dunno, dumbo, what-ho?! MOO

IDK. I see what you are saying here but IMO MT wasn't a compelling liar. She is a piss poor liar. You know when you see a master liar in action and its total brilliance and they are total TEFLON? MT was not a compelling liar on this level at all. MT seems to be the kind of liar that creates more problems for herself than possibly telling the truth might have created! Why didn't she just say (or her atty say) that she wouldn't speak to LE. Does Atty Bowman really think what MT did in AW3 represented 'cooperation' on the level that it should get consideration in court down the line? I hope not!

As we have endlessly discussed here, MT is NOT a defendant that juries will think highly of to begin with and then you toss on these comments from AW3 that make no sense and it all just seems a recipe for a defense atty's nightmare. Can you imagine how these MT comments in AW3 will play out in court on recycle and how in the world will juries even understand what she meant?

I just hope EE is a credible witness as he might be the only way to understand what all happened at 4Jx and 80 MS on the disappearance date as good luck figuring out anything from MT pitiful testimony.

IDK. All I can think of is that one Press shot of Atty Colangelo we saw after the 8/13 meeting with MT where he looked harassed and simply fed up and hot an aggravated. Now, reading this MT testimony in AW3 I can understand why he looked like he did if he had to spend hours listening to this word salad that makes little sense in any language.

I'm saying this from the perspective of wanting to make sure she has adequate representation and so doesn't have that 'out' available to her down the line. I really wonder what the Atty Bowman plan is for MT defense as based on what we see in AW3, I'm confused as to what he is thinking.....

MOO

 

[Melrose]

I know another person who is taking a sigh of relief today. That would be attorney KM wife. To all the people who thought her accusations against KM were just the rantings of a bitter wife, guess not!

This is the problem. Nobody believes you until after something terrible has happened and his mask slips.